some source files seem to have @author tag containing copyright notices

2003-10-04 Thread robert burrell donkin
(cc'ing general to inform the pmc. if this is not the right procedure then hopefully someone will post a correction.) some of the source code (still under weblogic packages) contains some strange @author tags. example: @author Copyright (c) 1997 by WebLogic, Inc. All Rights Reserved. i think t

nightly builds (source and binaries) for incubating projects

2003-10-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
does anyone know the nightly builds (source and binaries) policy and practice for incubating projects...? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: can we have tar of source code.

2003-10-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
cool. there have been requests from users for source tar balls for xml-beans. it isn't currently included. could someone please point me in the right direction? - robert On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 06:32 PM, Brian Behlendorf wrote: There are now 4-times-a-day tarballs of snapshots of the

where should announcements for podlings go? [WAS Announce: incubated-jaxme 0.2]

2003-11-20 Thread robert burrell donkin
jochen's recent announcement set me thinking about where the right place for announcements like this. general's a cool place but should it also go to announcements at ws? does incubator need an announcements list? - robert - T

Re: Request for graduation

2004-01-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 21 Jan 2004, at 10:41, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: * The developers PGP keys aren't part of any web of trust. Mainly an issue of physical separation between the developers. interesting requirement, this one. IIRC at the last count i was the biggest offender at apache for this (in terms of isol

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-07-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
may i suggest that a practical workaround for the issue (that started this debate) would be to ask all contributors to use jira. i should think that it would be possible to add another checkbox to allow contributors to give explicit permission for dual licensing (ASL and GPL). (i can't resist addi

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-07-31 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/31/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 30, 2005, at 7:36 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > may i suggest that a practical workaround for the issue (that started > > this debate) would be to ask all contributors to use jira. > &

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-07-31 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/31/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMHO the whole concept of a default license for a mailing list is > > problematic. it's hard to see how we could ensure that users have > > given knowing consent. > > Well, you won't be able to subscribe without seeing it, would the

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-07-31 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/31/05, Sam Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > robert burrell donkin wrote: > > On 7/31/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > with the ASL2, apache is covered through the license but AIUI this > > does not extend to sublicensing. personally

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-07-31 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/31/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2005, at 9:57 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > On 7/31/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> . personally speaking, i do not accept > >>> new fi

Re: Harmony Podlling Quarterly Report

2005-07-31 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/31/05, Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > robert burrell donkin gmail.com> writes: > > On 7/30/05, Dalibor Topic kaffe.org> wrote: > > IMHO the free software foundation's theory of implicit patent grants > > being embedded in the GPL is qui

Re: Request for Comment : Harmony Contribution Policy

2005-08-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
> Comments? (Like I need to ask for them... ) Re: Part VIII : Employment Limitations may need to think about the differences in employment law in different jurisdications. AIUI European employment law typically does not recognise the concept of trade secrets and strictly limits the rights of

Re: Request for Comment : Harmony Contribution Policy

2005-08-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 8/1/05, Dirk-Willem van Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > of trade secrets and strictly limits the rights of employers to > > material created by an employee in their own time using their > > materials. >

Re: The Incubator and Infrastructure

2005-09-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 9/5/05, David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > David Crossley wrote: > > > > > I suggest that we go further and make it a requirement > > > of graduation from the Incubator that the project > > > already has some people helping at infra@ > > > > That can only appl

what is the process for substantial code contributions to existing codebases?

2005-09-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
AIUI the incubator is now the right way for substantial code contributions to existing codebases to enter the ASF (whether from existing committers who have developed the code in isolation or from non-committers). i've taken a look around the current incubator documentation and i can only find mate

Re: Adding a new Project on Jakarta

2005-10-17 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 10/17/05, Trustin Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Joao > > 2005/10/14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > >Sounds very interesting and it is similar to what was in our MINA > > roadmap. > > >MINA project team will provide protocol handlers for well-known > protocols > > >such F

ownership of urls corresponding to java package names

2005-11-12 Thread robert burrell donkin
was browsing the roller project today and noticed that the source was packaged org.roller.xyz. i took a look at http://www.roller.org domain. this is currently parked and quite possibly for sale. the external site for roller is http://www.rollerweblogger.org/. not sure whether this is an issue or

Re: where to store IP Clearance docs (Was: new maven codebases)

2005-11-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
ping? - robert On 11/8/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > choose one... > > On Nov 8, 2005, at 12:11 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > Actually, we'd like to have them all in one place, I believe. So a > > directory under or a peer of the projects directory, perhaps. > > > > ---

IP Clearance Process For Extensions To Existing Apache Code bases

2005-11-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
hello all i need to get the paperwork sorted out for the import of code developed outside the ASF into the pool component of jakarta-commons. i've been subscribed to incubator for a while but haven't seem a definite answer to this question. i'm willing to find time to develop some documentation if

Re: IP Clearance Process For Extensions To Existing Apache Code bases

2005-11-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
thanks for the speedy replies :) i think i understand now. - robert On 11/15/05, David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > do we want these IP Clearance reports to end up on the Incubator > website? > > > > Yes. See: > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incu

Re: IP Clearance Process For Extensions To Existing Apache Code bases

2005-11-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 11/15/05, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i think i understand now. but i would like to ask about software grant best practice. (again, i'm not sure whether this is documentated anywhere or not) i've done some digging around and think that the software

Re: IP Clearance Process For Extensions To Existing Apache Code bases

2005-11-17 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 11/17/05, David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David Crossley wrote: > > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > > > We should probably create a sub-directory and collect them all. > > > > Okay. > > That is done now. All existing IP Clearance documents > are now at: > http://incubator.apache.org/i

Re: IP Clearance Process For Extensions To Existing Apache Code bases

2005-11-17 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 11/17/05, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > > i've done some digging around and think that the software grant applies > to a > > specific, concrete instance of the source. this will typically be > exam

Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed Nov 16 23:55:44 2005

2005-11-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 11/17/05, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > > APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*- > > Last modified at [$Date: 2005-01-20 01:12:13 -0500 (Thu, 20 Jan 2005) $] > > It has been pointed out a couple of times in the past (see the posts > bel

Re: [STATUS] (incubator) Wed Nov 16 23:55:44 2005

2005-11-20 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 11/19/05, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > robert burrell donkin wrote: > > On 11/17/05, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > >> > >>>APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indent

Re: [vote] JDO out of incubation and into the DB project ( was Re: [discussion] JDO out of incubation)

2005-12-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/5/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I repurposed the discussion thread for continuity to call for a > vote. There has been no concern or objection noted in the last two > weeks, so I'll assume that people are comfortable with this. > > So what say ye? > > [ ] +1 Graduate

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project

2005-12-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/5/05, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Roy T.Fielding wrote: > > > > No, the proposal is all about SOA. What you are saying is that the > > *actual plan* is about SCA. What I am saying is that the proposal > > needs to match the actual plan, preferably a plan that is actionable,

Re: Tuscany SOA Project

2005-12-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/7/05, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lance, > > Better start with WSS4J to earn karma :) while we get started on > Tuscany. +1 for any help we can get. +1 takes a while to get everything checked, approved and the paperwork completed for a new incubation project. lending a

Re: (Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Tuscany SOA Project)

2005-12-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/7/05, Kenneth Tam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Glad to see a strong show of interest from the WS PMC, look forward to > working more w/ you guys. > > How about a BoF around Tuscany so all the folks who have expressed > interest and are present can get together for a f2f? I'll be there > Mo

Re: AJAX Toolkit Framework Proposal

2005-12-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/21/05, Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 20, 2005, at 12:19 PM, Sylvain Wallez wrote: > > > Sam Ruby wrote: > >> Sylvain Wallez wrote: > >> > >> As a general rule, the ASF doesn't go out "inviting", people > >> within the ASF either start a new project, or projects come to us. >

Re: "Closed for renovations" (was:Re: AJAX Toolkit Framework Proposal)

2005-12-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/21/05, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The ASF isn't very good at "saying no", at least not very loudly. All our > processes are geared at "saying yes" the right way and only if we feel > comfortable. It seems we have something to learn here, and its a bit scary > since this may ha

Re: Is the incubator out of control?

2005-12-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/22/05, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 21, 2005, at 7:46 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > > > >> I think the Incubator would best serve the ASF if we/they had > >> the ultimate authority to vote on, even if the PMC approves a > >> proposed proj

Re: iBatis..

2005-12-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/22/05, Larry Meadors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) We are not in the incubator anymore. > 2) Odd...not sure what's up with that. if it's wrong, patch it :) - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additio

Re: Is the incubator out of control?

2005-12-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
(for the benefit of those joining the thread, here's the context) > > On 12/22/05, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the way people vote are a matter of record and so reputations are at stake > > both inside and outside apache. voting for a duff rel

Re: Is there a "no graduate" option?

2005-12-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/22/05, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --On December 22, 2005 3:26:57 PM -0500 Rich Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > As I look through the list of projects in the incubator, trying to figure > > out where I can be useful, I notice several projects that have been in > >

Re: Growth

2005-12-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/22/05, Rich Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > On 12/21/2005 7:22 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > > >> Folks, > >> > >> Right now any PMC can automatically ok projects into incubator. How > >> about we change that rule? So that the only pmc that can approve a > >>

Re: Incubating java projects

2005-12-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/22/05, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks everyone for your comments. We should maybe capture some of > the points raised in this thread into the incubation guide? +1 submit a patch ;) (been waiting years to say that to james) AUIU the consensus seems to be that the doc

Re: Is there a "no graduate" option?

2005-12-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/22/05, Thomas Dudziak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder whether there isn't another problem here: that of the > (missing) oversight of the PMC that originally voted the project into > incubation. For instance, while I'm on the DB PMC and voted e.g. Derby > into incubation (just to pick a

Re: [doc] [draft #2] "How to graduate from the incubator" topic

2005-12-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/23/05, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 08:01:14PM -0800, Jean T. Anderson wrote: > > Incubator Graduation Check List > > --- > > > > [ ] Move svn repo from incubator to new location > > [ ] *** ? *** requests that infras

Re: Is the incubator out of control?

2005-12-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/23/05, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If any ASF PMC believes it is in the best interest of the Foundation to > accept a podling and they are willing to dedicate resources ("people") - > then anyone on the Incubator PMC has no standing to challenge that > decision. When a PM

Re: Is the incubator out of control?

2005-12-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/23/05, Erik Abele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 23.12.2005, at 16:57, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 09:11:55AM -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > ... > >> I think that there's little downside to this. A check on the > >> Incubator PMC is the board - any member or

Re: ActiveMQ and ServiceMix status

2005-12-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/26/05, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The software grant forms have been completed and sent to the Apache > Software Foundation. Can someone within ASF confirm that they have been > received? AIUI jim's on holiday till the new year. hopefully someone will jump in if someone el

Re: IP Clearance vs Full incubation

2005-12-29 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 12/28/05, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folks, > > I was browsing the ip-clearance documents > (http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/ip-clearance/). > IMNSHO, I don't like what's happening. It *SHOULD* be incubator PMC's > call whether an incoming do

Re: Experiment : Incubator site done in xdocs...

2006-01-04 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1/4/06, David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a way to use Forrest itself to produce > xml output ... > > > 0) > Assuming that forrest is installed as per: > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/website.html i've been following this debate (off and o

Re: OFBiz Marketing and Services

2006-01-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 1/20/06, Paul Querna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yoav Shapira wrote: > > Hola, > > Sure, but J Aaron already beat me to it ;) > > > > One other decent page not included in his post is > > http://www.apache.org/info/support.cgi of HTTP support providers. The > > text at the top is good. > > T

jakarta's new project page

2006-01-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
jakarta still has a new project page from way back: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html. it's highly ranked by google (which is why i found it still existed). 1 would it be a good idea to redirect traffic towards an appropriate page in the incubator and if so, which page? 2 has any app

Re: [VOTE] approve a milestone release of ActiveMQ?

2006-02-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/2/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > James Strachan wrote: > How should the disclaimer be associated? > > Well, this is a bit of an issue. Why are the plain jars available? To > allow automated downloads by Maven? I have an issue with that, since it > could allow people

Re: SSH and SVN passwords

2006-02-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/1/06, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could someone kindly describe (or point us to a document explaining) > how to reset a user password at people.apache.org? i don't that this is documented anywhere (or indeed whether there's concensus about the right way to do this). but infr

Re: [doc] podling software releases

2006-02-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/9/06, Roy T. Fielding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 9, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: > > >> dev list or ppmc list? Only PMC members' votes are binding for > >> full TLPs; I suggest having the vote on the dev list as mentioned > >> but only the PPMC members' votes being bi

Re: Account requests for Incubator projects

2006-02-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/23/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why not just modify incubator procedure to make it clear that > > 1) Mentors make the requests and > > 2) They sign the email w/ the title "$PODLING_NAME Mentor" +1 Now #2 don't prevent someone from misrepresenting themselves - which >

Re: Ode / BPEL Donation of BPEL 2.0 Engine

2006-02-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/18/06, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why are you being so negative? Let's try to make it work. If it does > not then we decide what do next as a PPMC. i'm not sure that james is being negative: just excitable :) there are different paths to unification. it's not always bes

IP clearance process

2006-02-25 Thread robert burrell donkin
AFAIK importing an external codebase into an existing project is covered in just two documents: http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html and http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#import if anyone knows of anywhere else this information is covered, please post a link. IMO the current docu

karma request

2006-02-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
seems like the pmc could use a few more eyeballs to spread the load. http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200602.mbox/% [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the latest post by james (not on the archives yet). i have spare lunchtimes i could use if that'd help... - robert signature.asc

Re: Cayenne ASF Proposal

2006-02-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 2/28/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMO, this looks like a very worthwhile proposal, but I > > would consider that this may likely be best under > > db first, with movement to TLP sometime after that, > > at least at this stage. I am also curious about the > > comparison bet

[REQUEST] IP Clearance For Jakarta Commons Composite Pool

2006-03-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
i've prepared the paperwork to clear a donation of code to Jakarta. i don't have incubator site karma so i've attached the patch to this JIRA: https://issues.apache.org:443/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-15. please check and (if there are no mistakes) commit. i'll pause for objections until 2200 Thursday 9

Re: [REQUEST] IP Clearance For Jakarta Commons Composite Pool

2006-03-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/7/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > Robert, > > > > > >>i've prepared the paperwork to clear a donation of code to Jakarta. i > >>don't have incubator site karma so i've attached the patch to this JIRA: > >>https://issues.apache.org:443/jira/brows

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-08 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/8/06, Jacek Laskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2006/3/8, Patrick Linskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi, > > > > Below is a proposal to incubate an Open JPA project at Apache. I've also > > posted this at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenJPAProposal. > > Hi Patrick, > > May I be include

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-08 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/8/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Yoav Shapira wrote: > > Hola, > > A couple of questions: > > > >> :Core Developers: > >> Fourteen of the initial committers are BEA employees. One of those is a > >> committer on the Apache JDO project. We anticipate that five of these

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-08 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/8/06, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Both QA and docs as proposed committers means to me that this project > > already has mature processes in place that will be good for the > > community. > > You're more trusting than I am. I still feel like commit access is > something to be

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-08 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/8/06, Thomas Dudziak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/8/06, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is duplication really that bad? So long as the communities are vibrant, > > why should we care? Also, have you factored in different requirements > > and different implementation str

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-08 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/8/06, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hola, > > > it's easy to get good open source coders: it's much harder to find > > good documentors who are willing to contribute to open source > > projects. demand for good documentation is always high but supply is > > typically low. i'm willi

[REQUEST] incubator karma

2006-03-08 Thread robert burrell donkin
i'd like incubator karma, please. i plan to work on some of the documentation and progress an IP clearance. (jim's had the software grant form for a few weeks now.) cheers - robert signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Status of ADF Faces Incubation Request

2006-03-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/9/06, Jean T. Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > Craig McClanahan wrote: > > > >>My understanding of the incubator process is that the Incubator PMC still > >>has to vote to accept a podling > > > > No. Although some people have expressed a desire that it be othe

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/9/06, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One of thing things that the we need to look at is how to improve > > communication across projects. Perhaps having some ontological mailing > > lists would be part of a solution. > > > > What ideas and views do others have? > > I know that m

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/10/06, J Aaron Farr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/9/06, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I know that mailing-lists are part of the foundation of the ASF and > > are a really useful way to communicate effectively. However my feeling > > is that we don't have the right tools

Re: Thoughts on Umbrellas, Federations, and Communication

2006-03-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/10/06, Mike Kienenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/9/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe we should subscribe all apache mail lists to one google account > > and figure out how to have a web site proxy searches into it... > > You'd think Google would be enthusia

Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/15/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > What makes a project with multiple codebases an umbrella is a gray > > area. > > I've posted *my* first-pass definition of the term: a TLP that > has no deliverable packages of it

Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/15/06, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/15/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > would jakarta have been any less an umbrella if three years ago we'd started > > rolling a huge jakarta.jar? > > Most likely, noone w

Re: ActiveMQ Graduation From Incubator

2006-03-16 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/16/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > Ken wrote: > > > I've posted *my* first-pass definition of the term: a TLP that > > > has no deliverable packages of its own, only from its subprojects. >

Re: Preventing exclusionary practices in Incubating projects

2006-03-16 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/16/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/16/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alan D. Cabrera wrote: > > > > > James Strachan wrote: > > > > Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > > > > I know for a fact that WADI, ActiveIO and Trifork guys have > > > > > been talking abou

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/18/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Hogstrom wrote: > > The conversation on OpenJPA has been quiet for about a week so I was > > wondering if there are outstanding issues that need to be resolved or > > this could be moved to a vote to accept the project and what the nex

[IP CLEARANCE] Jakarta Commons Composite Pool

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
please check http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/jakarta-commons-composite-pool.html. i will wait at 48 hours (no earlier than 1200 GMT on tuesday 21st march) for objections before exporting the code from it's initial drop into the actual codebase. note that there is additional informatio

[POLICY][DOC] IP clearance process refinements

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
A few observations from following the process as currently documented and proposals for improvements: 1 this process can only be executed by a ASF member or officer with incubator karma. this needs to be documented on the clearance form. PROPOSAL: document this and add section on form so that it'

Re: [POLICY][DOC] IP clearance process refinements

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/19/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 12:26:04PM +0000, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > 3 there is no indication the form which CLA's and CCLA's are relevant. > > this makes oversight difficult. > > > > PROPOSAL:

Re: [POLICY][DOC] IP clearance process refinements

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/19/06, Dain Sundstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 19, 2006, at 6:25 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > On 3/19/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 12:26:04PM +, robert burrell donkin > >> wrote: >

[POLICY] Lazy account creation [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenJPA as an Incubator Podling]

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/19/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What we'll probably do is run it like we're running Harmony. The list > of committers on the proposal are the people we expect to show up, but > we won't be creating accounts by default - we'll need to have each > person say "yes, I'm read

Re: [POLICY] Lazy account creation [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenJPA as an Incubator Podling]

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/19/06, Jacek Laskowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2006/3/19, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 3/19/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What we'll probably do is run it like we're running Harmony. The li

Re: [POLICY][DOC] IP clearance process refinements

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/19/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/19/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A few observations from following the process as currently documented > > and proposals for improvements: > > > > 1 this process

Re: [POLICY] Lazy account creation [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenJPA as an Incubator Podling]

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/19/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > robert burrell donkin wrote: > > On 3/19/06, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> What we'll probably do is run it like we're running Harmony. The list > >> of comm

Re: [POLICY][DOC] IP clearance process refinements

2006-03-20 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/19/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/19/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > sorry for the confusion: this is about the actual process of preparing > > the paperwork required by the incubator not the receipt of the >

Re: CLA's for Cayenne?

2006-03-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/20/06, Bill Dudney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I wanted to check what the time frame is for us to wait before > getting nervous that a CLA was lost. the question is how they were sent. FAX's are more reliable than post from outside the US. it can take a few days to process CLAs.

[RESULT][IP CLEARANCE] Jakarta Commons Composite Pool

2006-03-21 Thread robert burrell donkin
AFAIK no objections lodged. proceeding. - robert On 3/19/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > please check > http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/jakarta-commons-composite-pool.html. > i will wait at 48 hours (no earlier than 1200 GMT on tuesday

[POLICY] incubator directory for IP drops

2006-03-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
the consensus on the previous thread was that it would be a good idea to have a single directory where the tarballed code referred to in the grants could be drop during IP clearance. this gives a canonical version of the donation in a central location for later reference (if that's ever needed). th

Re: [POLICY] incubator directory for IP drops

2006-03-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/23/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/23/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > no one jumped in with a suggestion so unless anyone can come up with a > > better location, i'm going to specify > > > > http

Re: [POLICY] incubator directory for IP drops

2006-03-25 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/23/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/23/06, Justin Erenkrantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/23/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > no one jumped in with a suggestion so unless anyone can come up with a

Re: Getting the Incubator PMC to be more responsive (Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve the 4.0-RC2 release of ActiveMQ)

2006-04-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/10/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/10/06, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/10/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > incubator? Then at least if the Incubator PMC are too busy to get > > > involved on a particular project, folks from t

Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix

2006-04-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/21/06, Bruce Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/21/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Leo Simons wrote: > > > James, dude, > > > > > > *sigh*. I feel like a broken record these days. > > > > > > Nowhere do

Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix

2006-04-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/21/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Incidentally there are useful bits of documentation on performing > releases in the documentation/wikis of various projects at Apache. > I've hacked up a quick wiki page to collect them.. > > http://wiki.apache.org/general/ReleaseGuides the

Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix

2006-04-24 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/24/06, James Strachan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 4/24/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > > most of the questions raised are covered in the canonical documentation: > > http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html. i'd

Release Documentation [WAS Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix]

2006-04-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/26/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:40:34AM -0600, Bruce Snyder wrote: > > On 4/21/06, Rodent of Unusual Size <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Leo Simons wrote: > > > > *sigh*. I feel like a broken record these days. > > > > > > > > Nowhere does any poli

Re: IP clearance: xmlgraphics-fop-afp-renderer

2006-04-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 4/26/06, Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Approval didn't happen within a reasonable time frame. I'm assuming lazy consensus. We're going to continue with the process. it's lazy concensus: but i don't think that's documented. i'll update the documentation (unless anyone beats me

Re: Revised OpenSAML proposal

2003-01-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 10:18 PM, RL 'Bob' Morgan wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Blockers? --- "Are there IPR-related concerns with SAML (patents held by RSA but offered royalty free)?" Can you please elaborate more on this? You never know, but t

Re: Revised OpenSAML proposal

2003-01-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 07:08 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: we've see numerous cases recently about companies sitting on IPR and then suddenly demanding money as soon as the technology has been widely adopted. these murky waters are muddied

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenSAML as part of Web Services

2003-02-12 Thread robert burrell donkin
were the IP issues ever resolved? (if there are known IP claims against this technology and royalty-free licenses are not available for apache and for the users of openSML, then isn't this more than a little risky?) - robert On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 02:21 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:

Re: Location of incubated downloads?

2003-03-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi howard i'm working on a 'how-to' document along these lines for jakarta-commons releases at the moment. using the mirroring is just a little involved. you also need an account on daedelus. if tapestry is now in the apache CVS and the release is tagged, i could probably reroll the release, s

Re: Location of incubated downloads?

2003-03-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
i think that there's a bit more to do than that :) here a brief run down of what i think's required. (i'm not claiming that this is definitive.) whoever does this will require daedelus karma. you need to sign and md5sum your releases (both binary and source, both tar.gz) and zip. you need to cr

Re: Location of incubated downloads?

2003-03-11 Thread robert burrell donkin
npack) the necessary libraries and distributions and then use Ant to build Tapestry. -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry -Original Message- From: robert burrell donkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 200

Fwd: XDoclet, XJavaDoc, Apache and Licensing

2003-03-25 Thread robert burrell donkin
maybe some people on this list might be able to give good answers to Aslak' s questions (they're at the bottom of the forwarded email). - robert Begin forwarded message: From: Aslak Hellesøy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 01:54:42 PM Europe/London To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL

Re: basicPortal to incubator

2003-06-04 Thread robert burrell donkin
i've been pondering for a little while whether there's anything that might be done to make it easier for would-be projects to meet up with potential sponsors. even a page with suggestions about how to recruit a sponsor might be better than nothing. - robert On Tuesday, June 3, 2003, at 09:10 P

Re: Issues with XMLBeans proposal

2003-07-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
(this is an attempt to explain rather than start another useless flame war. ..) On Friday, July 4, 2003, at 12:24 AM, Greg Stein wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 04:22:10PM -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: The division of XML vs Jakarta predates me for certain, but I think the main issues surroundi

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