On 3/15/06, Jochen Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 3/15/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > would jakarta have been any less an umbrella if three years ago we'd started > > rolling a huge jakarta.jar? > > Most likely, noone would have used it (in particular, not the > developers),
the developers wouldn't but IIRC misguided and slightly users asked for one from time to time. ("take two java libraries into the shower? i just jakarta and go!" ;) > so you are right: Roys's definition may be formally > wrong. In practice, I believe he's got a point. The common deliverable > (like Geronimo, or httpd) is well suited to bind people together. that's true enough: moving to more focussed projects is an improvement. but jakarta managed to be pretty cohesive with a very noisy community even without a single master product. it would have been easy to come up with some sort of reasonable charter and focus: but that would have done nothing to address the issue of the mismatch between the legal structure (TLP) and the formal organizational one (sub-projects, sub-sub-projects). - robert --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]