-1 binding. I don't see the standard disclaimer in any of the possible
locations.
In Maven, the standard disclaimer as a remote resource via
org.apache:apache-incubator-disclaimer-resource-bundle.
The text looks like:
#if(${projectName})${projectName}#else${project.name}#end is an effort
undergo
; created that will appear in the next release.
>
> Given that
>
> * the disclaimer is actually there,
>
> * this is a milestone release which should be supplanted by another release
> in a month or two
>
> and
>
> * this will be fixed
>
> Would you reconside
I think that all of this might boil down to the observation, way back
in this thread, that there are different patterns of incoming
projects.
Some incoming podlings are very small groups of people. If they are
paying attention, they know that attracting new people will be their
biggest problem. In
A summarized agreement with this thread:
The bottom line, I think, is that _someone_ has to provide the
supervision that the board delegates to a PMC.
The virtue of the 'demolish the incubator' proposal is that it makes
that point absolutely clear. If there were no incubator, the board
would need
On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Joseph Schaefer
wrote:
> Unlikely to get at least Roy’s approval because release
> votes are expected to be a decision of the full committee,
> not any one member of it.
+1: Much as some people here as in favor of dismantlement, and others
would like to see some
Joining a PMC does not meaning being handed even one of the keys to
the launch console for a nuclear missile. Joining a PMC means
accepting responsibility for the supervision of a project. We vote to
add someone to a PMC when they have shown the necessary commitment
and, well, common sense. Part of
meone something at a point when they have some appreciation of what
> they are joining, no?
>
> Upayavira
>
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013, at 01:24 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>> Joining a PMC does not meaning being handed even one of the keys to
>> the launch console for a nucl
My understanding is that incubating releases can have small IP loose
ends, but not that they can proceed before the main clearance of an
initial code donation.
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Bernd Fondermann
> wrote:
>
>> That was also m
>
> Therefore, when we say that incubating releases "can have small IP loose
> ends", we mean:
>
> * This is an official release, created by an act of the Foundation.
> * It is known to violate policy.
> * It could be removed, but no one has done so yet.
>
> I'm comfortable with relying on "p
If the student provides it as a patch, then you are asking the usual
question about the quantity of code. There is no hard and fast rule,
but unless it's very large, the AL is very clear; patches sent to
mailing lists or attached to issue tracking systems or any of that are
covered by the AL. If th
If you can work out a plan to do this directly in Hadoop, there's no
need for the incubator. You just build and and contribute it in
cahoots with them, and earn commit over there as you go.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Alejandro Abdelnur wrote:
> Mmmh, if i recall correctly this has come up i
During my, uh, tenure, as chair, I was unable to find any evidence of
any actual work applied to IP clearance by the PMC as a group. People
would post them up for lazy consensus, and the consensus, as far as
any email evidence went, was in fact completely lazy. Is there
anything this group wants to
Everyone who has ever mentored anything is a member of this PMC,
except for those who have actually chosen to depart.
In addition, we have PMC members who specialize in things like NOTICE
files, but don't choose to mentor individual projects.
In general, there is a mentor shortage. If you have a
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:07 PM, jan i wrote:
> On 24 August 2014 19:54, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera
>> wrote:
>>
>> >>> I am not so sure if its worth while with the board report.
>> >
>> > What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Having
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-provenance
has some svn specific commentary. If an incoming podling has a git
repo, can it just be pushed into place as the starting point?
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I would like to offer a very loud +1 to Bertrand's email.
Here we are on a community graduation vote thread. This sub-discussion
would seem to lead to one of three outcomes:
1) No place new. AOO proceeds out of the incubator operating under the
current regime, and those AOO community members who
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Thilo Goetz wrote:
>> On 21/08/12 13:59, Branko Čibej wrote:
>>> On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote:
I think the NOTICE problems are serious enough to warrant a respin.
>>>
>>> This is an unreasonable request. T
After my recent adventure sorting out Kato's IP clearance, I have an
intention as a shepherd, and I'd like to suggest that others pick it
up, as well.
If a podling has not filled in the IP clearance field on their status
page, ask them what's going on, and ask them to report the status in
their re
This policy is enshrined in the original foundation articles of
incorporation, and has been restated, over and over, by board members.
Most colorfully by Roy T. Fielding, who was 'present at the birth.'
Many are sympathetic to the AOO situation, and this is why the
suggestion from the VP legal was
I submit that this sub-thread has reached the end of its useful lifetime.
The IPMC's view of binaries is clear, and the IPMC believes that its
views reflect the will of the board. 'Official' binaries, like
binaries signed with a certificate with the Foundation's name on it,
are not currently permi
Sigh. Apache is a volunteer organization with a history and a culture.
As a volunteer organization, it cannot possibly create and maintain a
set of documents that describe every bit of cultural norm and
historical context.
New committers on existing projects learn from their communities.
Podling m
> Joe, I know very well (and you know that I know) that I can edit most of
> the things that appear on our web site. But if community-oriented means
> that anyone should just edit those docs to scratch an itch and to hell
> with consensus and the consequences, then you're right, I'm definitely a
>
Jim,
Two points:
1: you skip over the liability question. Is Bill legally exposed?
2: You can't distribute a binary application to the Mac App store, or
other places, without a signature.
Some complex requirements for using an Apache signature have been
posed; I don't know why Donald characteri
You can also use OSSRH to push more jars to central.
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> Many projects in a similar situation ship a "deps"
> package that contains dependencies and distribute
> those from the mirrors.
>
> HTH
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> From
ll have the following reviews to do:
>
> Benson Margulies - Cordova, Flex, S4
> Jukka Zitting- OpenOffice
> Matt Franklin- Isis, NPanday, Wave
> Matt Hogstrom- Bigtop, Openmeetings
>
> I'm a bit late myself too [*], so it's still fine if you can co
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Jukka Zitting
> wrote:
>> Let me know if you won't have time for the review by Wednesday.
>
> We still have the following reviews to do:
>
> Benson Margulies -
Does anyone seriously believe that IP notices are required in files like these?
These files cannot be copyrighted because they do not have any
'creative' content. If they can't be copyrighted, they can't be
licensed. And, even it were otherwise, the notices at the top of the
tree are sufficient. T
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> Speaking as CouchDB's RM, I would consider missing license headers a
> blocker.
>
> Are rules more lax within the Incubator?
In the incubator, minor problems of this sort are non-blocking. They
per-file notices are suspenders over top of the b
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> Hi Bertrand,
>
> OpenDDR combining forces with DeviceMap is great news! And having the
> resource file will make it very useful immediately.
>
> Regarding this vote.. While the original wurfl.xml was clearly open source,
> and I am going
Podling frequently check in dubious IP as part of initial imports, and
then clean up HEAD later. I've never seen any evidence of a more
thorough extirpation.
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Jukka Zitting wrote on Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 00:06:38 +0200:
>> PPS. It would be nice if we could use Apache Steve for the election.
>> Volunteers?
Seems a bit premature. Let's see if we have more than one candidate.
So far we have none.
>
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> FYI - This is being done in public!
>
Who or what is an RGB.ES? Don't PMC members have to disclose an identity?
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Andrew Rist
>> Date: October 1, 2012 3:38:03 PM PDT
>> To: ooo-...@incub
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> No, just like Upayavira doesn't.
Oh, I thought he was just a person-of-single-name, like a number of
people I've met (often from Indonesia).
>
>
>
>
>
>>____
>&g
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Dan Haywood
wrote:
> On 3 October 2012 07:47, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>
>>
>> Let's fix this: I nominate Benson Margulies as Incubator PMC chair.
>>
>> Benson's been actively involved in the Incubator for quite a while,
I will do an exam this evening when I get where I'm going.
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:14 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> we have to submit our IPMC Board report this month, and it would be real
> nice if
> we could say that we have enough (or at least some, ongoing) IPMC vote
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Scott Wilson
wrote:
> We recently started the process of taking Wookie to graduation, however the
> current Wookie release is blocked pending the resolution of a crypto export
> issue [1].
>
> My question is: can we proceed with graduation - hopefully presenting a
+1
On Oct 5, 2012, at 5:20 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
> +1
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: Dan Haywood
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 2:41 PM
>> Subject: [VOTE] Graduate Isis podling from Apache Incubator
>>
>> T
+1 (IPMC member)
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
wrote:
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/jspwiki/KEYS
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Briefly ...
The process that produced Jukka was not a pretty one, and I was rather
ashamed of myself by the end of it. So, if any other qualified
candidate is available, my inclination is to defer to them. However,
it's not for me to tell the community what to do. If the community
prefers to run a
I'm sorry, a work obligation overtook me. I'll have a look around for
future reference at my assignments.
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: it's one of those dev lists which is 90% JIRA traffic.
ODFToolkit, on the other hand, seems to have a metadata problem. It
shows no total committers and one new committer. Does anyone
understand that? Otherwise, all their boxes are green.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Benson Margulies wro
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> picking up Benson's initial question, just my 2c: how about encouraging a
> key signing party (or something alike, but more informal and/or with fewer
> people) through general@i.a.o for every Apachecon, say 2-3 weeks bef
Craig,
I appreciate the general scheme of signing.
It seems as if we have two approaches to key trust. One is the
in-person web of trust, and the other is the CLA -> account ->
key-in-ldap/svn. Given the Foundations' emphasis on geographic
diversity, the later seems to me to be more appropriate.
Shane,
After reading all the responses, I'm no longer very interested in
pushing the idea of key signing. I am much more interested in
explaining to users the existence and use of the LDAP keys.
We can explain: "If something is signed with a key associated with an
Apache committer via the Apache
So, I voted for the release without making a detailed IP check (just
signatures, buildability, etc) based on the state in the clutch.
We seem to have a problem here. I've pinged two of the mentors here
chosen by people in my gmail 'to' cache; could we get some input?
-
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Sent from my tablet
> On Oct 7, 2012 10:08 PM, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
>>
>> So, I voted for the release without making a detailed IP check (just
>> signatures, buildability, etc) based on the state in the
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Luciano Resende wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Ross Gardler
> wrote:
>> Sent from my tablet
>> On Oct 7, 2012 10:08 PM, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
>>>
>>> So, I voted for the release without making a detail
>
>> What I want to know about this is whether incubator.apache.org/clutch
>> is lying to me when it claims that this project has released before.
>
> I do see that you indicated elsewhere in this thread that
> you did misinterpret that aspect of the table. Is there
> something that we can do to ma
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Branko Čibej wrote:
>> What guarantee do you have that a particular Skype ID is whoever you
>> think it is? None at all, unless the person involved looked at your
>> Skype contact list and said, yeah, that's
> - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargul...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 08:54
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: key signing
>
> [ ... ]
>
> In my opinion, that's vanishingly unlike
On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
>>
>> There's another side to this, which I would derisively label, 'so
>> what'? How does it help a user to see that my key is signed by 27 of
&
I am very much in favor of streamlining and describing alternatives
that avoid the need for the user to be a WoT participant, such as
taking advantage of KEYS files and the like.
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:18
Let's try a little statistically-invalid experiment of sample size
one. The last time I had a key signed at Apache, it was by Dan Kulp.
Now, pretend that you are a suspicious user of one of the many Maven
plugins releases that I RM. Can you reach Dan from yourself in the
web? Is there anyone you, p
A different angle.
Noah asks me to sign his key.
Noah tells me that he's committed it to KEYS for CloudStack in svn
revision 314159.
I examine that revision and see that it was made by, indeed, noah's
Apache ID, which is associated with a particular email address.
I send email to secretary@, as
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Nick Kew wrote:
>
> On 10 Oct 2012, at 11:25, Benson Margulies wrote:
>
>> I then feel that it's perfectly reasonable to sign a key that has two
>> things in it: the name Noah Slater and nsla...@apache.org, because if
>> this pr
Just to be clear, I don't think I've ever signed a key in my life. In
part, because this criteria seem impossibly mushy.
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duate and will
>> hopefully complete that transition shortly.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Benson Margulies
>> wrote:
>>> ODFToolkit, on the other hand, seems to have a metadata problem. It
>>> shows no total committers and one new committer. Do
+1
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> +1
>
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Kevan Miller wrote:
>> All,
>> The Kitty community has voted to retire the project. I'm now moving the
>> retirement vote to the Incubator PMC.
>>
>> Please cast your vote:
>>
>> [ ] +1 to
else ends up chair, and
that someone *wants* to go to Portland and give a general incubator
talk, I will be happy to work with the committee to facilitate.
>
> Ross
>
> Sent from my tablet
> On Oct 14, 2012 2:30 PM, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
>
>> I'm incline
This whole thread was launched, if I read Ross' remark correctly, by
my doing something stupid. I've apologized. It's not at all clear to
me that my mistake is example of a common kind of stupidity.
I perceive, however, an ambiguity. The phrase 'proper IP
verification,' more or less, has echoed do
Now I have a practical problem. I've received email from a committer
on a project. I have met him in person -- some years ago. I helped him
get started at Apache. His fellow PMC members are telling him that
it's *necessary* for him to come up with one or more signatures on his
key to act at an RM.
> My point is only that I'd prefer to give Roman, and people like him, a
> +1 on the IPMC (assuming people vouch for him) than have someone else
> voting +1 on a release without doing appropriate due diligence.
I certainly agree with this.
>
> Ross
>
> ---
Zemain Deng,
To bring a project to the ASF, you need more than code. You need a
group of people to be the nucleus of a community. While there are
exceptions to everything, in general you can't assemble that community
by sending mail here.
If you look at the incubator web site, you'll see how to w
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> My only observation is surprise that there isn't more humorous commentary on
> the fact that the IPMC might be graduating both a Wookie and a Kafka in the
> same month!
They come from rather disconnected imaginative universes.
>
> - Shane
>
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Florian Holeczek wrote:
> Hi Noah,
>
>> We're just voting on our first release, and I spotted this file in the root
>> of the source:
>>
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cloudstack.git;a=blob_plain;f=waf;hb=HEAD
>>
>> It seems to be a sort of
Bertrand, is a compressed archive of source a source or a binary?
On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Noah Slater wrote:
> Nice summary Bertrand.
>
>
> On 29 October 2012 15:22, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Chip Childers
>> wrote:
>>> ...Waf is a packagin
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Siegfried Goeschl wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I actually wanted to go emeritus but I'm a f** idiot and therefore would
> like to help here and volunteer as JSPWiki Mentor ... :-)
>
> I'm a bit familiar with JSPWiki since a maintain a "JSPWiki On A Stick"
> distributi
I want to thank all of you for the vote(s) of confidence in recommending me
as the IPMC chair. While it's always possible that the Board will decline
the suggestion, it doesn't seem too terribly presumptuous to start looking
ahead.
My goal is to continue along the path blazed by Jukka, and then, l
st I feel) it was intended.
>
> Ross
>
> Sent from my tablet
> On Nov 4, 2012 10:30 PM, "Benson Margulies" wrote:
>
>> I want to thank all of you for the vote(s) of confidence in recommending me
>> as the IPMC chair. While it's always possible that the Board wi
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
> > At the bottom of the template for each podling's report, I'd like to
> have a
> > space for each of the mentors, every month, to r
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
> > Reading all the remarks so far, I glean:
> >
> > 1. A number of people think that all mentors should have been signing all
> > reports all
We vote in one of these people fairly regularly, and we've never rejected
one yet as far as I recall. So I think that this solution has proved
acceptable; the question is, how many of the podlings with a mentor
shortage have a suitable candidate in them? I intend to find out.
On Mon, Nov 5, 2012
> > 2. We need the shepherds to compensate for mentor shortages in addition
> to
> > discovering those.
>
> I disagree.
>
> In short, you are conflating mentors with IPMC Members. They serve
> *very* different roles.
>
Greg, let me start by writing that I am not in some hurry to turn shepherds
int
nd* to
> combine them (Model 1), then fine.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
>
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:52 AM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>>> > 2. We need the shepherds to compensate for mentor shortages in addition
>>> to
>>> > discovering those.
>>&g
I'm not installed yet :-) Jukka?
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi Benson / Jukka -
>
> I'm waiting for my shepherd assignments.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
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ed on your side.
>
> I finally got around to assigning shepherds for this months podling reports:
>
> Dave Fisher - Amber
> Jukka Zitting- Ambari, NPanday
> Matt Franklin- Clerezza, PhotArk
> Matt Hogstrom- Crunch, Wink
> Ross Gardler - DeltaSpik
Droids seems to be a really easy shepherding assignment. They are on
the watch list for low activity, they are self-aware of this, and they
are having a conversation with the commons TLP about perhaps becoming
a component there. I don't know if there is any contribution any of
the rest of us could
OK, their report was misleading. I'll improve it slightly :-)
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Benson Margulies
> wrote:
>> Wookie is graduated? Shouldn't they be reporting as a TLP, even if
>>
Ignore my message, my eyeballs were clearly not awake the first time I
read their report. It was fine.
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> OK, their report was misleading. I'll improve it slightly :-)
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Jukka Zitting
erally.
>
> Lewis
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 5:53 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:56 AM, Benson Margulies
>> wrote:
>>> Droids seems to be a really easy shepherding assignment. They are on
>>> the watch list for low activity, t
Or maLinda? There's Lindane, but that's something else. It might avoid bugs.
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Ian Holsman wrote:
> What about DaNil? Or DaLin?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18/11/2012, at 9:12 AM, Sebastian Schaffert
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> first of all, thanks for the fe
Then call it LODen.
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 8:04 PM, dsh wrote:
> Btw, the important part missing up to now in this discussion is the OPEN in
> Linked OPEN Data. If I get it right without openness the whole idea will be
> crippled to a certain extend.
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 201
Ted,
I did read the whole thing, and I'd like to join you in drawing a
curtain in front of the man.
The proposers of this project didn't create the problem of the term
'linked data', and they can't fix it. As you suggest, all they can do
is pick a TLP name that is neutral to positive in relation
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> On 19/11/12 11:20, Sebastian Schaffert wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we have had a brainstorming round and came up with the suggestion "Apache
>> Marmotta" as a new name. We looked a bit and the name seems not to be taken
>> yet, so there would
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Luciano Resende wrote:
>> ...Nuvem has a great synergy with Apache Tuscany, and after
>> discussion between the two projects, we are seeking IPMC approval to allow
>> graduation of Apache Nuvem as a sub
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> On 21 November 2012 10:36, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
>> wrote:
>> > ...sub-"products", or the ability for a PMC to release multiple
>> "products", like e.g.,
>> > like Lucene doe
eet, frequently located in my oral cavity, this
should work out well.
> Benson, good luck!
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In their meeting yesterday the ASF board appointed Benson Margulies as
>
+1
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The Chukwa community has voted to retire the project.
>
> Following the retirement guide [1], I now call the Incubator PMC to vote on
> confirming this decision.
>
> [ ] +1 Retire the Chukwa project
> [ ] -1 Do not retire the
For those voting -1, I'd like to see, on another thread, some
discussion about just how we handle podlings where there are
longstanding issues but no consensus on the PPMC. We've heading in the
same direction on Photark, and some consensus about how or when to
reach a respectful conclusion as a PMC
Andy, who's missing? N. is now formally a member.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> A quick update on the Marmotta proposal.
>
> Thanks everyone for the comments. The proposal should reflect the
> discussions.
>
> One of the mentors is not yet formally a member of IPMC
OK, I get it. We've got that in process.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Sergio Fernández
wrote:
> Benson,
> everything is fine regarding Nandana, but we're still awaiting a formal
> resolution about Fabian Christ.
>
>
> On 26.11.2012 21:15, Benson Margulies wrote:
r consider more of an effort to support in addition to
supervising.
Just, however, my opinion.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Luciano Resende wrote:
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> From: *Benson Margulies*
> Date: Monday, November 26, 2012
> Subject: [VOTE] Retire Chukw
at 4:09 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
wrote:
> Le 26 nov. 2012 21:06, "Benson Margulies" a écrit :
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>> For those voting -1, I'd like to see, on another thread, some
>> discussion about just how we handle podlings where there are
>> longstanding issues but no
menting these techniques in ways useful to
> mentors. I don't think it is the job of mentors (or the IPMC) to do this
> either. It is entirely the PPMC responsibility. In my opinion.
My thought here is that ComDev is a source of useful advice, not a
group of people to do the work.
&g
One interesting point about consensus decision-making process is the
need to define the starting point. The process assumes that there is a
clear 'status quo', and that a consensus is required to change it.
This may not always be the appropriate way to think about retiring a
podling, but it's clear
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As chair of the IPMC, I do not think that it is appropriate to have a
vote to continue incubation for six months, with no consideration of
success in between. I think that it would be reasonable to put aside
the vote to retire, and expect a plan, with contributions from more
than one non-mentor, in
+1, and I think we can close it. As I see it, a hand with three
mentors beats 5 other members :-)
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> +1 (binding)
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> have fun!
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> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Alex Harui wrote:
>> This is a call for vote to graduate the Apache Flex
roject. Eric simply wanted to wait a while and
> hope for some miracle to happen.
>
> If Eric and other PPMC members had the time to do the work, we wouldn't be
> where we are today.
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>
> Regards,
> Alan
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> On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:48 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
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