Then call it LODen. On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 8:04 PM, dsh <daniel.hais...@gmail.com> wrote: > Btw, the important part missing up to now in this discussion is the OPEN in > Linked OPEN Data. If I get it right without openness the whole idea will be > crippled to a certain extend. > > Cheers > Daniel > > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 1:12 AM, Sebastian Schaffert < > sebastian.schaff...@salzburgresearch.at> wrote: > >> Dear Ted, >> >> even though I agree that the term "Linked Data" is very generic, this is >> out of my influence, and it describes quite well what the topic is about. >> The term "Linked Data" has actually been proposed by Tim Berners-Lee: >> >> http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html >> >> and is used in the various standardisation efforts (like the W3C "Linked >> Data Platform" recommendation mentioned in the proposal). There is also a >> nice presentation from 2009 at TED: >> >> http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_berners_lee_on_the_next_web.html >> >> Linked Data is also already used by major enterprises like: >> - BBC: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/BBC/ >> - Volkswagen: >> http://semanticweb.com/volkswagen-das-auto-company-is-das-semantic-web-company_b23233 >> - German National Library: >> http://www.dnb.de/EN/Service/DigitaleDienste/LinkedData/linkeddata_node.html >> >> So my fear that 'nobody is likely to understand the phrase "Linked Data"' >> is very low for the future. If there have been other uses of the phrase in >> Computer Science before they are now marginalized (if you can trust a >> Google search for "Linked Data"). >> >> That said, we take your concern serious (especially the legal issue) and >> will discuss the issue on Monday. I am also grateful for the proposals that >> have already been done on the list. >> >> Greetings, >> >> Sebastian >> >> >> Am 17.11.2012 um 23:49 schrieb Ted Dunning: >> >> > Frankly, the phrase "linked data" is also so generic as to be essentially >> > meaningless outside your community. There are many, many uses of this >> > phrase in computer science that mean something completely different from >> > what you guys seem to mean. >> > >> > It took me quite a bit of reading to figure out what you were talking >> > about. At the very least, you need to look at your supporting materials >> > with a naive eye so that you can avoid the confusion that your name and >> > terminology are likely to cause. >> > >> > Having a project name that memorializes a phrase that nobody is likely to >> > understand without (lots of) supporting material and which is used by >> other >> > projects in roughly the same domain is problematic. >> > >> > My feeling is that I would be -0 on the name meaning that I think that it >> > isn't good, but I wouldn't stand in the way by vetoing it. You guys seem >> > pretty attached to your terminology regardless of the merits and it >> doesn't >> > seem a big enough issue to be worth causing friction over it. >> > >> > You should be aware, however, that with these defects, it seems very >> > unlikely to me that Apache would be able to help with trademark and name >> > conflict issues. That may not seem like a big deal now, but if your >> > project really does get going and then somebody tries to take over your >> > community with a nearly identically named product, it will definitely >> feel >> > like a big deal. Take a look at what happens with Open Office all the >> time. >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Sebastian Schaffert < >> > sebastian.schaff...@salzburgresearch.at> wrote: >> > >> >> I agree that "Linda" is a very generic name and as such there are >> already >> >> several projects out there with this name. On the other hand, we chose >> >> "Linda" as an acronym for "Linked Data" in order to increase >> >> recognizability especially in the domain we are targeting. For our >> >> community, we think it would be quite easy to identify "Apache Linda" >> with >> >> the Linked Data Platform and not with a blackboard system or a >> methodology >> >> for parallel execution. A more artificial name would probably have a >> harder >> >> time establishing a brand (but of course the project is good enough to >> >> manage ;-) ). >> >> >> >> In case the Incubator PMC still recommends to rename the project, I >> agree >> >> we should do it BEFORE starting up the project. We will discuss options >> for >> >> renaming on Monday (European Time) and come up with suggestions. >> >> >> >> Sebastian >> -- >> | Dr. Sebastian Schaffert sebastian.schaff...@salzburgresearch.at >> | Salzburg Research Forschungsgesellschaft http://www.salzburgresearch.at >> | Head of Knowledge and Media Technologies Group +43 662 2288 423 >> | Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II >> | A-5020 Salzburg >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >>
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