I submit that this sub-thread has reached the end of its useful lifetime. The IPMC's view of binaries is clear, and the IPMC believes that its views reflect the will of the board. 'Official' binaries, like binaries signed with a certificate with the Foundation's name on it, are not currently permissible. Roughly, the same questions of how the voting members of a PMC could meaningfully check a release before voting apply to both questions.
If you want to engage with the board on this, by all means, there is board@. It's a complete waste of time to argue on this list and this thread about the Foundation's governance. In the mean time, AOO releases can continue to have 'convenience binaries', sans signatures. Since this is a community vote thread (!) and not an IPMC vote thread, I further submit that all of us IPMC members should get out of the way and leave it to the mentors to sort out the disconnect between Foundation policy and AOO needs/wants. To quote the mentors from a previous conversation, if people want to join in the process, they should become mentors and fully engage. Of course, a discussion thread started here to solicit the IPMC's opinion on graduation would be another matter entirely. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org