Re: Feature Suggestion | Component Cloning

Agreed that there can be ways of implementation which can reduce the need for cloning a display object, but this can only be reduced not eliminated. Also this is not restricted to games. An application for *e.g.* A Whiteboard application would greatly need this for a copy paste functionality. Reg

Re: [DISCUSS] ApacheFlex Versioning (was Re: A newbie's guide to building the SDK (and a question))

On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/22/12 11:48 PM, "Omar Gonzalez" wrote: > > > If they're donating the > > name for us to use, and Apache will only accept the name if its under > full > > control of Apache, then I wouldn't worry about Adobe releasing a version > of

[Automation] Will

Alex, You mention 'business kinks' in regards to automation. It would be unfortunate for this project to loose that capability in the framework due to business reasons. The automation library is fairly old (in internet terms) and used by a lot of Flex customers and testing tool/service provid

[Automation] Could we loose automation for legal or business reasons?

Alex, You mention 'business kinks' in regards to automation. It would be unfortunate for this project to loose that capability in the framework due to business reasons. The automation library is fairly old (in internet terms) and used by a lot of Flex customers and testing tool/service provi

Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

Hi everybody, I have a suggestion regarding how Flex 5 UIComponent class should work. Please read this and thisin order to understand what I mean. I think that this approach will solve not only the compatibility issues that we might encounter

Re: [Automation] Will

On 1/23/12 12:14 AM, "Keith Sutton" wrote: > Is there a need to raise this issue collectively with decision makers > involved in the 'business kinks' to influence this decision? The issue has been discussed at Adobe, if that's what you mean. -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. ht

Re: [DISCUSS] ApacheFlex Versioning (was Re: A newbie's guide to building the SDK (and a question))

The "big version jump" combined with the "year approach" would be 12 for 2012, 13 for 2013 and so on. For example, first apache release: 12.0(.0.0.0.1?). A major release in Q4 2012 would already be 13.0. Further security releases 13.1 13.2 and so on. Although, this must not be a constrain to the

Re: [Automation] Could we loose automation for legal or business reasons?

Do this mean we are at risk of loosing the automation lib due to business reasons? - On 1/23/12 12:14 AM, "Keith Sutton" wrote: Is there a need to raise this issue collectively with decision makers involved in the 'business kinks' to influence this decision? The issue h

[Automation] Could we lose automation for legal or business reasons?

> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] > Sent: 23 January 2012 05:29 > > > On 1/22/12 9:22 AM, "Tink" wrote: > > > > If automation is missing in our first release, wouldn't that break all > > automation testing that companies have invested in? > > Yes, and we would note that in the release

Re: [Automation] Could we lose automation for legal or business reasons?

> Sorry to be blunt Alex, but that is a truly idiotic suggestion. "Hey world, Please stay polite and mindful of others, ok? This is NOT a constructive way to have a discussion, and will do your case more harm then good. EdB -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06

RE: [Automation] Could we lose automation for legal or business reasons?

> From: Erik de Bruin [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl] > Sent: 23 January 2012 09:30 > Please stay polite and mindful of others, ok? This is NOT a constructive > way to have a discussion, and will do your case more harm then good. There's a time and place to constrain oneself to politeness. Adobe's c

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

Hi Bogdan, In your post you refer to this implementation as useful from an accessibility point of view, can you clarify what do you mean exactly and which are the benefits you see in this field? You don't thing the pattern you described is very similar to traits? Giorgio On 1/23/12 9:32 AM, "Bog

Re: [Automation] Could we lose automation for legal or business reasons?

David please, follow Erik suggestion... Is the time to be constructive and calm, we have now the responsibility to keep things going and in order to do this we need good spirit and no more fights... Giorgio On 1/23/12 10:38 AM, "David Arno" wrote: >> From: Erik de Bruin [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.

Re: [Automation] Could we lose automation for legal or business reasons?

> > > There's a time and place to constrain oneself to politeness. Adobe's > continuing incompetent handling of Flex takes us outside of that. I fail to > see how we can have constructive discussions about this topic until Adobe > sort out all the "legal technicalities" that keep springing up at ra

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

Hi Giorgio, by having separate classes for dealing with specialized behaviors, I think UIComponent will become very flexible and instead of extending UIComponent we would just add certain behaviors to it, composing rather than extending. Benefits : 1) maintaining inheritance with older versions

Re: [Automation] Could we lose automation for legal or business reasons?

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:23 AM, David Arno wrote: > ..."Hey world, > here's the first ever Apache release of Flex. Please note, before attempting > to use it, you should read our release notes where we detail all of the bits > of Adobe Flex that you likely use, but that Adobe chose not to denote

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

>Benefits : > >1) maintaining inheritance with older versions of SDK while writing an >entirely new framework; >2) lightweight components based on UIComponent; >3) lightweight jobs for sdk managers; >4) smaller memory foot print compared to previous versions; >5) high customization of components fo

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

This is not only about accessibility. It's about everything : behavior classes would be specialized in one and one only. I'm writing a new blog post right now, expanding the benefits that I've presented to you. On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Giorgio Natili wrote: > >Benefits : > > > >1) mainta

Re: [Automation] Could we lose automation for legal or business reasons?

In order to focus and work on what will be included in the first release, it's maybe not a bad thing to do a list what will not be included in it. We knew already about the RSLs, now, automation, what else ? Frédéric Thomas -Message d'origine- From: Bertrand Delacretaz Sent: Monday,

Apache Flex 3.7 - my planned mega-patch

When we get the source for Flex 3.6, have resolved legal issues, patched missing features etc, I'm expecting that we will make a 3.7 release. I'm assuming most people would prefer we concentrated on Flex 4 and plans for Flex 5, rather than on developing Flex 3 further. To that extent, I plan on sub

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

I also find that the Behavior pattern is a powerful way of making components much lighter, more configurable and easier to extend and customize. I have used this pattern in one of my last Flex projects to create different versions of the same application with different features (features are implem

State of the Project

I think the tension here is justified. Many people waited for a long time to work on things and the expectations are high. Right now a lot of requests and questions that the people have could be avoided if we had some certainties: * What can we work on/discuss about? As far as I know A

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

Thank you for your input Haykel! I'm very pleased to hear that it worked well for you and you're happy with the results. On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Haykel BEN JEMIA wrote: > I also find that the Behavior pattern is a powerful way of making > components much lighter, more configurable and e

RE: State of the Project

> From: Martin Heidegger [mailto:m...@leichtgewicht.at] > Sent: 23 January 2012 11:00 > I think this sort of questions are important right now as the lack of answers > seem to agitate the group and throttle the motivation. > I also think that these questions need to be answered by the Project tea

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

+1 to this as well, would open up many new doors for those like me who enjoy working on their frameworks :) Wael On 23/01/2012 11:01, "Bogdan DINU" wrote: >Thank you for your input Haykel! I'm very pleased to hear that it worked >well for you and you're happy with the results. > >On Mon, Jan 23

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

+1 for this, I can think of many cool things to implement in my framework using Behaviours. wael On 23/01/2012 11:01, "Bogdan DINU" wrote: >Thank you for your input Haykel! I'm very pleased to hear that it worked >well for you and you're happy with the results. > >On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:55

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

Sorry for the double post, for some reason Outlook sent the email even though I didn't hit the send button! Wael On 23/01/2012 11:37, "Wael Jammal" wrote: >+1 for this, I can think of many cool things to implement in my framework >using Behaviours. > >wael > >On 23/01/2012 11:01, "Bogdan DINU"

Re: [Automation] Could we lose automation for legal or business reasons?

On 1/23/12 12:35 PM, "David Arno" wrote: >> From: Martin Heidegger [mailto:m...@leichtgewicht.at] >> Sent: 23 January 2012 11:00 >> I think this sort of questions are important right now as the lack of >answers >> seem to agitate the group and throttle the motivation. >> I also think that thes

RE: State of the Project

> From: Giorgio Natili [mailto:g.nat...@gnstudio.com] > Sent: 23 January 2012 11:44 >>There is a difficult line to walk between the bad PR of a too-early >>release and the community losing interest if it takes too long. Again >>it would be useful to try and reach a consensus on this. Maybe it's

Re: Apache Flex 3.7 - my planned mega-patch

I don't know about taking the shotgun approach and making EVERYTHING private -- but I do have my own list of variables/functions that should be changed from private to protected. I wouldn't veto the careful approach of making the change... -Nick On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:48 AM, David Arno wrote

Re: State of the Project

From: "David Arno" It is Apache Flex that risks the bad PR if 4.7 is released too early. David. David, I think there is a misunderstanding here. As it has been discussed previously, the goal of the first release (4.7 or 4.8 or 4.2012 or ... ) would be like a practice release for the project,

RE: State of the Project

> From: El Koro [mailto:k...@noos.fr] > Sent: 23 January 2012 12:24 > > David, I think there is a misunderstanding here. > As it has been discussed previously, the goal of the first release (4.7 or > 4.8 or 4.2012 or ... ) would be like a practice release for the project, > not a "look world, her

Re: State of the Project

What you are describing is a alpha/beta/pre-release/ something not-finished. Concrete version numbers without that statement would be widely considered "finished" and usable. yours Martin. On 23/01/2012 21:23, El Koro wrote: From: "David Arno" It is Apache Flex that risks the bad PR if

Re: Issue with ant build files for flex

The build.xml files in the project directories are set up to build with the compiler in the source tree. As soon as the compiler is there you will be able to build individual projects. As noted in the readme build_frameworks.xml builds from the kit structure not the source structure. Carol

Re: Apache Flex 3.7 - my planned mega-patch

Uhm, i'm just curious: when patching 3.x, that would require patching the Halo components in Flex version > 3 as well to be patch to not break compatibility when people migrate their components and projects to later versions of the framework. I can't really tell about the work and effort that ha

Re: Apache Flex 3.7 - my planned mega-patch

I understand the frustration this is trying to solve, but I don't think having an official release like this is a good idea. Imagine someone picks up this release, and then wants to upgrade to Flex 4.x later on--the backwards-compatibility story would be completely lost. What you're proposing isn'

Re: State of the Project

David, Originally, the plan was to make a first Apache release for testing purposes, not for production, with or without changes/bugfixes, right ? Then, apart from the fact that one can do w/o RSLs and Automation, at the moment, we are still waiting for Mustella, I do not think we can release

Re: And with svn commit: r1234192...

Sounds right but wil double check when I get to work shortly and then fix it. Carol Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on AT&T -Original message- From: Michael Schmalle To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Sent: Sat, Jan 21, 2012 16:03:58 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: And with svn commit: r12341

Re: [DISCUSS] ApacheFlex Versioning (was Re: A newbie's guide to building the SDK (and a question))

Actually there are quite a few places the version number has to be changed. A good candidate for cleanup. Carol Sent from my Motorola ATRIX™ 4G on AT&T -Original message- From: Justin Mclean To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" Sent: Mon, Jan 23, 2012 05:05:19 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re:

Re: Red Tamarin ( Rocking Flex on CLI )

Take a look at this for starters... http://labs.influxis.com/?p=598 Now - consider being able to automate the testing of your Flex app on a headless machine with hooks into GPU acceleration. I don't think the question is 'what is it good for' but more - 'how can we leverage this incredible capabi

Re: Apache Flex 3.7 - my planned mega-patch

I agree with the private => protected shift, but we must think about using mx_internal instead ; this is not really object nad I never reeally understood what it is either but there some stuff that should not be overridden The best solution btw is the use of delegation instead of inheritance, but

Re: A newbie's guide to building the SDK (and a question)

I would recommend against putting development SDKs in the FlashBuilder SDK directory. I would reserve these for shipped versions of the SDK. I put the sdk in something like /dev/apache. In the FlashBuilder project go to Project -> Flex Compiler -> Configure Flex SDKs and add my development SDK.

Re: [DISCUSS] ApacheFlex Versioning (was Re: A newbie's guide to building the SDK (and a question))

Back to my recommendation of keeping the 'Flex Version' untouched and internal... and implementing a new 'Apache Flex Version' which is forward facing. -- Rick Winscot On Monday, January 23, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Carol Frampton wrote: > Actually there are quite a few places the version number ha

Re: playerglobal.swc version build issue

For those of you not watching flex-commits I fixed the build issue noted below. On 1/23/12 10 :24AM, "cframp...@apache.org" wrote: >Author: cframpton >Date: Mon Jan 23 15:24:05 2012 >New Revision: 1234852 > >URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1234852&view=rev >Log: >Fix value of playerglobal.

Re: playerglobal.swc version build issue

Mike, Someone needs to petition Thibault Imbert to get the playerglobal.swc a permanent home... the current release is available from this page ( scroll down to about the middle and you'll see it ): http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html ...but it appears that the filename w

Re: Apache Flex 3.7 - my planned mega-patch

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Ryan Frishberg wrote: > I understand the frustration this is trying to solve, but I don't > think having an official release like this is a good idea. Imagine > someone picks up this release, and then wants to upgrade to Flex 4.x > later on--the backwards-compatib

Re: State of the Project

Is there anything that prevents us from calling the first build out the door a 'Release Candidate?' Then in Jira... adding a line item / known issue logged against it to get automation working? -- Rick Winscot On Monday, January 23, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Frédéric Thomas wrote: > David, > > Ori

Re: playerglobal.swc version build issue

Rick, I am aware that the player version is built into the build scripts but I think you want this. You need to test/certify a release with a particular version. If we want to improve the build so you could set the version once and it propagated thru all the scripts that would be another thing a

RE: playerglobal.swc version build issue

> From: Rick Winscot [mailto:rick.wins...@gmail.com] > Sent: 23 January 2012 15:27 > We should be including the latest and greatest swc in our builds... Why? Surely we should be targeting as old a version of the player as we can. For example, Flex 4.6 targets Flash player 11.1 and later. Does i

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Bogdan DINU wrote: > Please let me know if you know any drawbacks that you can foresee. As with everything, get developing and see if others catch onto your idea. -- Jonathan Campos

Re: Feature Suggestion | Component Cloning

I have to agree with Alex. I've built plenty of Flex apps, very large to very small, and I can't remember thinking "gee I wish I could clone UIComponents". I'm having trouble coming up with a reason I'd want to do this that I can't cover with a well-built component that binds to data for it's sta

RE: State of the Project

> From: Rick Winscot [mailto:rick.wins...@gmail.com] > Sent: 23 January 2012 15:32 > Is there anything that prevents us from calling the first build out the door > a 'Release Candidate?' Then in Jira... adding a line item / known issue > logged against it to get automation working? "Release can

re: [DISCUSS] ApacheFlex Versioning (was Re: A newbie's guide to building the SDK (and a question))

Omar, > From: "Omar Gonzalez" > Sent: domingo, 22 de Janeiro de 2012 14:45 > To: "flex-dev@incubator.apache.org" > Subject: [DISCUSS] ApacheFlex Versioning (was Re: A newbie's guide to building the SDK (and a question)) > > Thoughts? Do we need a vote for versioning scheme? > > -omar Seems p

Re: Feature Suggestion | Component Cloning

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Craig Drabik wrote: > Of course I don't know everything :) Do you have a specific example or > sample project to illustrate your idea? > To be fair I came across this once before. After developing on the issue I eventually figured out that I needed to be using a

Re: Feature Suggestion | Component Cloning

Same experience, didn't need component cloning for several years, when I started Flex I thought I needed it but there are (from my experience) better ways to handle the problem. On 23/01/12 16:45, "Jonathan Campos" wrote: >On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Craig Drabik >wrote: > >> Of course I do

Re: [Automation] Could we lose automation for legal or business reasons?

PMC - your mission, should you choose to accept it... ;-) I think that verbiage is getting in the way a little bit... IMO the term 'release' may get people thinking that they will be able to drop the old for the new. I've mentioned this before... I just don't see that happening in the short-te

Re: Apache Flex 3.7 - my planned mega-patch

On 1/23/12 5:32 AM, "Ryan Frishberg" wrote: > I understand the frustration this is trying to solve, but I don't > think having an official release like this is a good idea. Imagine > someone picks up this release, and then wants to upgrade to Flex 4.x > later on--the backwards-compatibility st

Re: [Automation] Could we lose automation for legal or business reasons?

On 1/23/12 10 :56AM, "Rick Winscot" wrote: >Development / Nightly Release (Nightly) >Bleeding edge... you get what you get and you don't throw a fit. Jira >issues are not typically logged against nightly builds. > I don't necessarily agree. It depends on the branch. If code is submitted to,

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

ID 3: 2 pts ID 49: 3 pts

RE: Apache Flex 3.7 - my planned mega-patch

Well it looks like this is a no-go due to the number of people that would veto it. Saves me the effort, so it was worth asking. Looks like I should therefore focus on my ideas for Flex 5, "The JavaScript Version" :) David.

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

Okay, for all those reading this: The voting contest - first round - is over for a while now. Does anyone have the statistics? yours Martin.

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

> Okay, for all those reading this: The voting contest - first round - is > over for a while now. > Does anyone have the statistics? > Its being reviewed by the PPMC - further details will follow, thanks! - Peter

Re: playerglobal.swc version build issue

David / Carol, This is very important... Flash Player 11.2 for Windows will ship with a 'silent background updater' with Mac OS getting the same feature in the next release. http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplatformruntimes/flashplayer11-2/ What version of Flash Player should we be targ

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

Just one counter-thought to play devils advocate a bit. One thing you have to consider is performance, especially on something like UIComponent that drives every little thing in your app. And in general, creating lots of new Objects is slow (and disposing of them can also be slow due to the GC). Ov

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

On 1/23/2012 11:41 AM, Peter Elst wrote: Okay, for all those reading this: The voting contest - first round - is over for a while now. Does anyone have the statistics? Its being reviewed by the PPMC - further details will follow, thanks! I'll also add that anyone can put together their own

Re: [Automation] Could we lose automation for legal or business reasons?

True... I hadn't thought of that. I was trying to come up with something that could help / try an avoid all the noise bugs logged against nightly builds create. The goal being to spend more time coding than managing Jira. ;-) -- Rick Winscot On Monday, January 23, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Carol Fram

RE: [VOTE] Logo contest

> From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jef...@dot-com-it.com] > Sent: 23 January 2012 16:49 > > I'll also add that anyone can put together their own statistics; as the vote > was public. But of course we didn't since Rui was so publicly doing so on everyone's behalf. Then the vote finished (without an a

Re: State of the Project

The odd number = dev / test release is a fairly well established approach... I'm down with that. -- Rick Winscot On Monday, January 23, 2012 at 10:45 AM, David Arno wrote: > > From: Rick Winscot [mailto:rick.wins...@gmail.com] > > Sent: 23 January 2012 15:32 > > Is there anything that preve

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

The vote didn't go my way so I modified my entry in a last ditch effort in swaying the PPMC ;) http://www.randytroppmann.com/flex-logo/flex-logo-01-randy-troppmann.png - Randy

[ApacheFlex] tag

Hi, It can be confusing to read emails when this mailing list is without a [ApacheFlex] tag, let add that.

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

+1 On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:30 PM, James Ong wrote: > Hi, > > It can be confusing to read emails when this mailing list is without a > [ApacheFlex] tag, let add that. >

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:00 AM, James Ong wrote: > It can be confusing to read emails when this mailing list is without a > [ApacheFlex] tag, let add that. > What is confusing exactly? I would think it more confusing (and laborsome) to have the ApacheFlex tag and whatever possible subject tag

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

Just to be transparent, the Flex PPMC is discussing the results on our private mailing list. The reason we are discussing the results in private is because we don't want to offend the kind people who donated their creative work to us. We should be going public with the results and our proposed next

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

one user may had joined more 2 or 3 groups.. in that case it adds confusion. On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:00 AM, James Ong wrote: > > > It can be confusing to read emails when this mailing list is without a > > [ApacheFlex] tag, let add t

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

Email filters. I have the email automagically moved to a folder called Apache Flex, which I then review at my leisure. On 1/23/12 10:00 AM, James Ong wrote: Hi, It can be confusing to read emails when this mailing list is without a [ApacheFlex] tag, let add that.

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

I don't understand. Everything on this mailing list is [ApacheFlex]. You could filter everything from this mailing list into an ApacheFlex or flex-dev folder if you like. Carol On 1/23/12 12 :00PM, "James Ong" wrote: >Hi, > >It can be confusing to read emails when this mailing list is without

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

You are using Gmail so you can filter these messages and let Gmail add a tag automatically. Use the 'Filter messages like this' option in a message. On 23 January 2012 18:00, James Ong wrote: > Hi, > > It can be confusing to read emails when this mailing list is without a > [ApacheFlex] tag,

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

Most mail clients have mail rules u can use to sort mail from flex-dev@, that's not enough? Think it's a little much to ask everyone to tag every email to this list. -omar

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

Hey Jonathan, I'm convinced about my idea. However, I cannot start developing while I don't have the whole picture, a plan and a road map. And having a whole picture is everything. Look at how Doug challenged me as Devil's advocate :) On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > On

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

Rather than filtering, adding Tag is good. Think about new user joined to this group. Later always u can filter if u want On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Brent Arnold wrote: > Email filters. > > I have the email automagically moved to a folder called Apache Flex, which > I then review at my lei

PPMC private list

Hey all, So I subscribed to the private list, but I don't see any emails coming in from that list. Do I need Bertrand or another mentor to add me? (I'm a committer) -omar

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Bogdan DINU wrote: > I'm convinced about my idea. However, I cannot start developing while I > don't have the whole picture, a plan and a road map. And having a whole > picture is everything. Look at how Doug challenged me as Devil's advocate > :) > I understand.

Re: PPMC private list

Me either. Carol On 1/23/12 12 :11PM, "Omar Gonzalez" wrote: >Hey all, > >So I subscribed to the private list, but I don't see any emails coming in >from that list. > >Do I need Bertrand or another mentor to add me? (I'm a committer) > >-omar

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > Most mail clients have mail rules u can use to sort mail from flex-dev@, > that's not enough? > > Think it's a little much to ask everyone to tag every email to this list. > Completely agree with Omar. Just a quick filter and you're good to

Re: playerglobal.swc version build issue

On 1/23/12 8:42 AM, "Rick Winscot" wrote: > So... moving forward... the near-term success and stability of Apache Flex > will be dependent upon how well we keep step with Flash Player releases. Adobe is only promising to support Flex on a particular SWF version number. I think it is 13. The p

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

-1 On 23 Jan 2012, at 17:09, nithya flex wrote: > Rather than filtering, adding Tag is good. Bad

Re: PPMC private list

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Carol Frampton wrote: > Me either. Did you all make sure to respond to the automated message and say that you did want to be subscribed? -- Jonathan Campos

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

On 1/23/2012 12:03 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: I would think it more confusing (and laborsome) to have the ApacheFlex tag and whatever possible subject tag. It can be confusing if you use an email client that doesn't thread discussions. It can also be confusing if you don't use email filtering

Re: PPMC private list

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Carol Frampton wrote: > Me either. Carol, I just confirmed you. You should be on there now. Greg

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

Hi Doug, I'm so much pleased that you are the devils advocate. The point of view you have presented is somehow a trap - I'll explain this in the end of my reply. I must agree with your point of view : creating is slow, destroying is even slower. But then, why we are on the mailing list? To find s

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

I think the lack of the descriptor tag here is actually a bonus because when there is one ie: [Vote] [Discuss] they jump out from the noise much more. On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Jeffry Houser wrote: > On 1/23/2012 12:03 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > >> I would think it more confusing (and

Re: PPMC private list

I've responded to the flex-private confirmation email, twice now I believe, or at least once. Does someone need to confirm me? -omar

Re: PPMC private list

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > ...So I subscribed to the private list, but I don't see any emails coming in > from that list. > > Do I need Bertrand or another mentor to add me? (I'm a committer)... Subscriptions to that private list must be approved by its moderators, lo

Re: PPMC private list

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > Does someone need to confirm me? Yes. I haven't seen a mail come through moderation to confirm you yet. Greg

Re: [ApacheFlex] tag

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Kevin Korngut wrote: > I think the lack of the descriptor tag here is actually a bonus because > when there is one ie: > > [Vote] > [Discuss] > > they jump out from the noise much more. Bingo - and I'm not sure if we could put a constant [marker] in the subject li

Re: PPMC private list

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Greg Reddin wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Omar Gonzalez > wrote: > > Does someone need to confirm me? > > Yes. I haven't seen a mail come through moderation to confirm you yet. > > Greg > Where do I need to send that email? I sent a confirmation ema

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

> > But then, why we are on the mailing list? To find solutions. > Agreed, and I'm all for everyone trying things out. As was pointed out earlier: nobody needs consensus to commit code to their whiteboard. > Spark is faster then Halo, just because a small change in terms of > thinking :) isn't i

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

Jonathan, please forgive me if I had offended you in any way. However, with the risk of repeating myself, until lately (to be read one year) I had no idea what [Frame(factoryClass="mx.managers.SystemManager")] really does in our beloved framework. I'm just looking for people to support such idea a

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

Hey, you haven't answered my reply question : "what should we favor ? Inheritance ?Composition ?". I would really love an answer :) Now, those Spark "things" are dependent on whom has the "teacher" and why they did it like that. I have nothing to confess, but the fact that in my company everythin

Re: Flex 5 UIComponent - Behavior Pattern

On 1/23/12 8:43 AM, "Doug McCune" wrote: > Just one counter-thought to play devils advocate a bit. One thing you have > to consider is performance, especially on something like UIComponent that > drives every little thing in your app. And in general, creating lots of new > Objects is slow (and

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