RE: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Frank Morawietz
ID 12: 1pts ID 34: 1pts ID 42: 1pts ID 49: 2pts

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Hugh
Alright, edited votes: ID26 - 1 pts ID12 - 4 pts

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Nikolay Blagoev
ID 27: 2pts ID 29: 3pts

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Mihai Ene
For the guys with only 1 logo voted, please bare in mind that u need to choose at least 2 logos to distribute the points.   ID 49: 3pts ID 46: 1pt ID 47: 1pt 

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Hugh
My unofficial vote would go to the fantastic logo indeed: ID12: 5pt (Only one vote is enough) rgds, Alex H.

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Om
http://s.apache.org/af-logo-14: 3 pts http://s.apache.org/af-logo-48: 2 pts (FYI: http://s.apache.org/af-logo-28 cannot be opened. Error message: "The connection has timed out. The server at www.grandrat.com is taking too long to respond.") On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Fat'hah Noor P. wrot

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Jun Heider
ID 05: 1 pt. ID 42: 3 pts. ID 49: 1 pt.

[VOTE]Logo Contest

2012-01-18 Thread eugenio bonifacio
ID 40: 5 pt

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Fisher
At Apache we like to do everything we can in public for all to see. "If it didn't happen on the list, it didn't happen" The only thing we use the flex-priv...@incubator.apache.org for is for discussing / voting in new committers / ppmc members and other items that must be private. (Sorry, my p

Re: [jira] [Assigned] (FLEX-8) Make SDK build with Maven/Flexmojos and deploy release and snapshot artifacts to the Apache Maven repository

2012-01-18 Thread Conrad Winchester
Hi all, I am not sure if this helps, but I did a LOT of work with flex mojos last year and learnt to produce my own Maven installs of any SDK that I wanted - I outlined how to do it here http://www.dz015.com/?p=346 and then did some later releases of what were then molehill releases of the SDK

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Fisher
With so many entries, certainly. Regards, Dave On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:47 PM, Martin Heidegger wrote: > Can submitters vote too? > > yours > Martin. > > On 19/01/2012 14:25, Doug Arthur wrote: >> We have had an overwhelming amount of logo submissions. Now it's time >> to decide which one will be

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Fisher
With so many entries, certainly. Regards, Dave On Jan 18, 2012, at 9:47 PM, Martin Heidegger wrote: > Can submitters vote too? > > yours > Martin. > > On 19/01/2012 14:25, Doug Arthur wrote: >> We have had an overwhelming amount of logo submissions. Now it's time >> to decide which one will be

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Fat'hah Noor P.
ID 08: 1pt ID 43: 4pts

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Martin Heidegger
ID 35: 1pt ID 42: 2pt ID 48: 1pt ID 52: 1pt

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Harui
(binding) ID 27: 1pt ID 38: 1pt ID 46: 1pt ID 49: 1pt ID 50: 1pt -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread saurabh jain
I agree with James. Public votes is surely going to be messy. Better idea is that PPMC take this task. Regards, Saurabh On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:32 AM, James Ong wrote: > I would say, let PPMC take the task. Public votes is going to get messy. > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Doug Arthur

Re: Falcon compiler source code / Falcon architecture

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/17/12 11:59 PM, "David Arno" wrote: > > The more I read about Falcon, the more concerned I become about it. I don't > like the idea that we will have to wait six months for a half-working > compiler, presumably with no APIs, documentation etc provided beforehand. > There is huge risks as

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread James Ong
I would say, let PPMC take the task. Public votes is going to get messy. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Doug Arthur wrote: > On Jan 18, 2012 10:53 PM, "Doug Arthur" wrote: >> >> >> On Jan 18, 2012 10:48 PM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote: >> > >> > Can submitters vote too? >> >> (2) Everyone is ope

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Doug Arthur
On Jan 18, 2012 10:53 PM, "Doug Arthur" wrote: > > > On Jan 18, 2012 10:48 PM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote: > > > > Can submitters vote too? > > (2) Everyone is open to vote. The votes will be tallied, and the PPMC > members will decide on how to count those votes. Hmm... I misunderstood. I'm hones

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Doug Arthur
On Jan 18, 2012 10:48 PM, "Martin Heidegger" wrote: > > Can submitters vote too? (2) Everyone is open to vote. The votes will be tallied, and the PPMC members will decide on how to count those votes.

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Martin Heidegger
Can submitters vote too? yours Martin. On 19/01/2012 14:25, Doug Arthur wrote: We have had an overwhelming amount of logo submissions. Now it's time to decide which one will become the new image of Flex, and pave the way for the future of Apache Flex on its new journey. This is the consensus

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Martin Heidegger
Awesome Betrand! I fixed the missing logo entries, set the maximum size to 50% and added some visual helpers. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19407988/apache-flex/flex-logos.html yours Martin.

Re: [VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Niyazar
http://s.apache.org/af-logo-42: 2.5pts http://s.apache.org/af-logo-49: 1.5pts http://s.apache.org/af-logo-34: 1pts

[VOTE] Logo contest

2012-01-18 Thread Doug Arthur
We have had an overwhelming amount of logo submissions. Now it's time to decide which one will become the new image of Flex, and pave the way for the future of Apache Flex on its new journey. This is the consensus for the following voting process: (1) 5 points can be distributed to logos of your

Re: [MENTOR Help Requested] Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Greg Reddin
Sent from my mobile device. On Jan 18, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Doug Arthur wrote: > Two last question before kicking this off. > > 1) For the Mentor: Is this something I should submit as a draft > proposal for review first? Or just kick it off? I'm not hearing any major objections. I think we have

Re: [LOGO] Fuse Collective #2

2012-01-18 Thread Sandeep Gupta
+1 Keep Walking, ~ Sandeep On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Quoting Jeffry Houser : > > FDT Blue: http://fdt.powerflasher.com/**wp-content/themes/fdt/img/** >> logo.png >> >> You're right the colors ar

Re: [MENTOR Help Requested] Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Jeffry Houser
Oh... I don't understand the whole multiple round proposals. My impression was that each round would only include a subset of the full logos, which didn't make sense to me. If that understanding is correct, then we should go through all rounds so every entry gets considered. On 1/18/2012

Re: Flex 3.x SDK?

2012-01-18 Thread James Ong
Not to be confuse why 3.x is consider legacy codebase, Flex 3 are still important for users with legacy Flash player 9 but that is a minor issue since everything will still be done in actionscript. Compare to Microsoft convince .Net (although little slower) is richer in functionality than C++, I ca

Re: [MENTOR Help Requested] Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Doug Arthur
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote: > On 1/18/2012 9:58 PM, Doug Arthur wrote: >> >> 2) For everyone, if a single logo gets more than 50% of the votes, >> should that automatically be named the winner, or should it be 60% or >> 70%? I personally think 50% is good enough, but want

Re: [MENTOR Help Requested] Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/18/2012 9:58 PM, Doug Arthur wrote: 2) For everyone, if a single logo gets more than 50% of the votes, should that automatically be named the winner, or should it be 60% or 70%? I personally think 50% is good enough, but want to be sure we all agree. I don't think we need to decide anythi

Re: Spoon Community Call Feb 2nd

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 18, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Michael A. Labriola wrote: > Not what I meant Alex. Sorry for the confusion, this wasn't a comment about > Apache or this effort. > > I meant that back in October and November of 2010 when there was a strong > community push for a fork, I tried to keep us on a unif

[MENTOR Help Requested] Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Doug Arthur
Two last question before kicking this off. 1) For the Mentor: Is this something I should submit as a draft proposal for review first? Or just kick it off? 2) For everyone, if a single logo gets more than 50% of the votes, should that automatically be named the winner, or should it be 60% or 70%?

Re: Flex 3.x SDK?

2012-01-18 Thread Andrew Morgan
I will add to the chorus that 3.x is very important. Enterprises are already at a crossroads with what to do with their large investment Flex, and much of that is on the 3.x codebase. Migrating to 4 is an expensive proposition with unclear benefits, and given the uncertainty around Flex/Flash, I

Re: OSGi bundle Plugin registry system

2012-01-18 Thread Ramon Donnell
Hey Michael, I did wonder where you went with you UI framework. I have posted to Chris on his forum. On 19 January 2012 09:21, Michael Schmalle wrote: > Ray, > > BTW, I think I might remember you from the forums back with Flex 3 and > potomac. I had done a lot of work with it and creating a UI

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Doug Arthur
On Jan 18, 2012 4:09 PM, "Chris Martin" wrote: > > Nvm, on my request. Forgive mi ignorance :) I researched a little > bit about the PPMC :) I'm new to this list, and i don't know where > this thread would surface. if anyone could pass that along that'd be > great :) No worries, it hasn't sur

Re: OSGi bundle Plugin registry system

2012-01-18 Thread Michael Schmalle
Ray, BTW, I think I might remember you from the forums back with Flex 3 and potomac. I had done a lot of work with it and creating a UI framework off of it. I actually had a lot of blog posts about potomac but, I think at that time it was so tied to Flex Builder(at the time of first relea

Re: OSGi bundle Plugin registry system

2012-01-18 Thread Ramon Donnell
The current version of potomac is not dependent on eclipse, ie you can build project using the potomac ant plugins. If you use flash builder the potomac eclipse plugin is required to build. -ray On 19 January 2012 07:57, Michael Schmalle wrote: > I used this from the beginning of it and knew C

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Chris Martin
Nvm, on my request. Forgive mi ignorance :) I researched a little bit about the PPMC :) I'm new to this list, and i don't know where this thread would surface. if anyone could pass that along that'd be great :) On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Jeff Tapper wrote: > +1 > > -Original Message

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Doug McCune
> > But that could also happen if > we later found the winning logo had an infringement we hadn't considered. That's not really true, you could just use the second place one. But OK :)

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/18/12 2:50 PM, "Rick Winscot" wrote: > So... is this bad enough that the logo contest need to be put on hold? No, I would've already spoken up if that was the case. But there is a chance we'll have to hold another one later. But that could also happen if we later found the winning logo

RE: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Jeff Tapper
+1 -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:09 PM To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs (PPMC hat) I did a quick review of last week's thread. Do we have general consensus on the following: (

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Chris Martin
When the thread has been created, could we also get a link in the mailing list? I'm new and don't have this PPMC bookmarked yet. Chris On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Greg Reddin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> If the first round produces a clear winner do we

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 18, 2012, at 2:50 PM, Doug Arthur wrote: > Are you going to start the voting thread, Dave? Not immediately. I'm out of town and have some plans. If no one else has started the thread. I'll kick it off, but I may not do it for another 10 hours. I think Jeffry made a good start and Bertra

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Greg Reddin
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> If the first round produces a clear winner do we need additional rounds? > > A clear winner is a the majority I described? If so, then yes. I'm not sure :-) My thinking is if we have 01 gets 100 votes 05 gets 12 votes 06 gets 9 votes then

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Rick Winscot
So... is this bad enough that the logo contest need to be put on hold? -- Rick Winscot On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/18/12 2:34 PM, "Jonathan Campos" (mailto:jonbcam...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > Going back through the videos I haven't been able t

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Doug Arthur
Are you going to start the voting thread, Dave? - Doug

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/18/12 2:34 PM, "Jonathan Campos" wrote: > Going back through the videos I haven't been able to find it. You are right > that it wasn't promised. The name issue was specifically brought up (by me > it seems) and it was said that it will need to get worked out but Adobe > intends to contrib

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 18, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Greg Reddin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> (1) Vote is 5 points to be distributed to 1 to 5 of the logos as the voter >> determines. > > I like this approach. > >> >> (2) Vote is open to everyone, but PPMC votes are binding and ta

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Harui
I think I agree as well. I would rather not even do a major re-architecture. I'd much rather start over on my whiteboard. For now, let's have one branch that is incremental until we truly understand how to participate in this new Apache world. On 1/18/12 1:57 PM, "Michael A. Labriola" wrote:

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Chris Martin
Agreed on the 5 points. I'm ready to vote. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Marcus Fritze > wrote: > >> I fully agree with dave, sounds good to me. Let's start voting! >> >> Maybe we should vote how we vote. ;-) >> > > I agree, let's get

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Marcus Fritze wrote: > I fully agree with dave, sounds good to me. Let's start voting! > > Maybe we should vote how we vote. ;-) > I agree, let's get this going. -- Jonathan Campos

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Can you remind me who it was that > promised it would be donated? > Going back through the videos I haven't been able to find it. You are right that it wasn't promised. The name issue was specifically brought up (by me it seems) and it was sai

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Marcus Fritze
I fully agree with dave, sounds good to me. Let's start voting! Maybe we should vote how we vote. ;-) Marcus Am 18.01.2012 um 23:08 schrieb Dave Fisher: > (PPMC hat) I did a quick review of last week's thread. > > Do we have general consensus on the following: > > (1) Vote is 5 points to be d

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Doug Arthur
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Greg Reddin wrote: > If the first round produces a clear winner do we need additional rounds? > > If not then we pick the top 5 or so and do additional rounds? I agree with all points made prior, and definitely this one. Limit it to a small subset if we need round

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/18/12 12:04 PM, "Jonathan Campos" wrote: > > We were assured at Flex summit that the trademark would be donated. This is > really sad if that can't happen. I remember discussions about the trademark being weak so Apache could probably use Flex as the project name. Can you remind me who

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Greg Reddin
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > (1) Vote is 5 points to be distributed to 1 to 5 of the logos as the voter > determines. I like this approach. > > (2) Vote is open to everyone, but PPMC votes are binding and tabulated > separately from the community. The PPMC is advised t

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Omar Gonzalez
I think this sounds like a reasonable conclusion what's been discussed. We can throw out alternative voting scenarios for days, but I think we should just take this one, agree to accept or decline it and start the vote. If we agree on using this as the guide to determining the winner I'll start a [

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Chris Martin
I like Omar's idea of having a 4.7 release which would be as close as possible to what we received from Adobe (4.6). On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > > > > On 1/18/12 12:10 PM, "Rick Winscot" wrote: > >> Really... with what I've outlined - is there any reason we can't / shoul

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/18/12 12:10 PM, "Rick Winscot" wrote: > Really... with what I've outlined - is there any reason we can't / shouldn't > do a reset? I haven't thought it through, but the version checks are there to avoid breaking someone's app. Seems like we don't want to muck with that too soon. -- Ale

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/18/12 12:33 PM, "Carol Frampton" wrote: > It depends. We've talked about doing a release as soon as all the code > gets here so we can make sure we didn't break anything. If that's the > case then maybe yes, you could swap one for the other. If we include bug > fixes or new features th

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Fisher
(PPMC hat) I did a quick review of last week's thread. Do we have general consensus on the following: (1) Vote is 5 points to be distributed to 1 to 5 of the logos as the voter determines. (2) Vote is open to everyone, but PPMC votes are binding and tabulated separately from the community. The

Re: OSGi bundle Plugin registry system

2012-01-18 Thread Michael Schmalle
I used this from the beginning of it and knew Chris. Did he ever get the dependency of Eclipse out of it? That is the problem I had with it was it needed Eclipse to build and relied on metadata. Mike Quoting Ramon Donnell : Have a look at http://www.potomacframework.org/. Development has

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Carol Frampton
This is essential what we were doing here at Adobe. We had a 4.y branch and a trunk branch which was 5.0. The gotcha is that you have to keep merging all bug fixes from the 4.y branch to trunk (or at least determine the code changed and a merge isn't needed). Carol On 1/18/12 4 :04PM, "Rick Win

RE: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Michael A. Labriola
+1 -Original Message- From: Arnoud Bos [mailto:arn...@artim-interactive.nl] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:53 PM To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed yup exactly how i feel about this. Remember that moving from flex

Re: [jira] [Created] (FLEX-5) Check and adapt license headers

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Harui
We used an in-house scrubbing tool to verify that all headers with Adobe copyrights now said Apache and to convince legal that we had permission from any third party contributors to submit this code to Apache. I assume RAT works the same way, and may catch other issues that matter to Apache. -Ale

RE: Spoon Community Call Feb 2nd

2012-01-18 Thread Michael A. Labriola
Not what I meant Alex. Sorry for the confusion, this wasn't a comment about Apache or this effort. I meant that back in October and November of 2010 when there was a strong community push for a fork, I tried to keep us on a unified path. Perhaps a fork at the point would have put us in a differ

Re: [jira] [Created] (FLEX-5) Check and adapt license headers

2012-01-18 Thread Carol Frampton
Rick, As I said all of the old Adobe headers are gone in the code we are donating. While Apache would have let us fix these during the incubation period, Adobe legal wanted them fixed before the donation. I used the Apache provided tool for inserting the new Apache headers. There may be a few fil

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Arnoud Bos
yup exactly how i feel about this. Remember that moving from flex 3 to 4 was a major overhaul. And as a result the conversion from flex3 to flex4 of big projects is expensive. My project leader on the last project was not happy about the time it costed to convert the big project to the new flex

Re: Spoon Community Call Feb 2nd

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/18/12 1:16 PM, "Michael A. Labriola" wrote: > I made the decision to wait on Adobe and frankly, it may have been the wrong > one. OK, I'll bite: What are your current concerns? -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

Re: Is FalconJS generated code drawing UI components on the DOM or on a Canvas?

2012-01-18 Thread Alex Harui
On 1/18/12 1:26 PM, "João Saleiro" wrote: > How crazy would it be to have a UI component framework - like Flex - > running on top of the HTML5 Canvas? I know there are some issues, for > example regarding text selection... but would the HTML5 Canvas be up to > the task? (I'm just thinking loud

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Bertrand, On Jan 18, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote: >> ... Then here is the non random list... > >> 1 http://s.apache.org/af-logo-01 >> 2http://s.apache.org/af-logo-02 >> 3http://s.apache.org/af-logo-03... > >

Re: OSGi bundle Plugin registry system

2012-01-18 Thread Ramon Donnell
Have a look at http://www.potomacframework.org/. Development has stalled since flex 4.1, but has much potential. Potomac includes OSGI like eclipse plugin, extension points, DI, bundle/module management, assets management. I've been using it on a large enterprise flex project with 80+ bundles with

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Michael Schmalle
Quoting Doug Arthur : Mike started the entire voting process and has taken charge of it the entire time. I will put my trust in him to initiate a voting process and define the rules based on feedback received so far from everyone. I would at least, suggest to Mike, that he post a pre-proposal t

Re: Is FalconJS generated code drawing UI components on the DOM or on a Canvas?

2012-01-18 Thread João Saleiro
On 18-01-2012 21:20, Michael A. Labriola wrote: My understanding is that it basically creates an svg How crazy would it be to have a UI component framework - like Flex - running on top of the HTML5 Canvas? I know there are some issues, for example regarding text selection... but would the H

Re: Is FalconJS generated code drawing UI components on the DOM or on a Canvas?

2012-01-18 Thread Raju Bitter
In the Flex Summit video, they said it's based on HTML + JS + SVG.

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Doug Arthur
Mike started the entire voting process and has taken charge of it the entire time. I will put my trust in him to initiate a voting process and define the rules based on feedback received so far from everyone. I would at least, suggest to Mike, that he post a pre-proposal to the voting process, and

RE: Is FalconJS generated code drawing UI components on the DOM or on a Canvas?

2012-01-18 Thread Michael A. Labriola
My understanding is that it basically creates an svg -Original Message- From: João Saleiro [mailto:joao.sale...@webfuel.pt] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:16 PM To: flex-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Is FalconJS generated code drawing UI components on the DOM or on a Canvas? Al

Re: Flex 3.x SDK?

2012-01-18 Thread Raju Bitter
Sounds like - from an enterprise perspective - the 3.x SDK is more important to the community. And those are probably some of the largest Flex applications in use. Does Adobe have any numbers on how many people are using 3.x vs 4.x?

Re: OSGi bundle Plugin registry system

2012-01-18 Thread Rick Winscot
Mike I think there is _huge_ value in your bundle project... I've worked a lot with Parsley and have to say that in some circumstances IoC can exacerbate problems with class loading in Flash. Having a mechanism to manage runtime assets is a natural next step (IMO) in the whole module / marshal

RE: Spoon Community Call Feb 2nd

2012-01-18 Thread Michael A. Labriola
Really Quick Bullets for all those with questions: * Spoon was conceived during Max 2010 by 4 of us at that moment, James Ward, Simeon Bateman, Jon Rose and myself. * It was presented to Adobe a months or so later * Over the next 11 months I had at least 3 meetings each and every month, includ

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote: > ... Then here is the non random list... > 1     http://s.apache.org/af-logo-01 > 2    http://s.apache.org/af-logo-02 > 3    http://s.apache.org/af-logo-03... I've put up an ugly page at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/715349/tmp/flex-logos.html whi

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Marcus Fritze
Am 18.01.2012 um 21:59 schrieb Jeffry Houser: > On 1/18/2012 3:45 PM, Marcus Fritze wrote: >> Am 18.01.2012 um 21:18 schrieb Doug McCune: >> >>> Someone should just whip up a quick hot-or-not app that shows you a logo >>> and you click +1 or skip, on to the next one, and then you do that >>> 50-

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > As far as a program to help: I think we need an html form which uses a > little javascript to build a mailto that includes a subject and generated > body. If we discuss a voting program I still think we should do uservoice[1] The issue with

Re: Flex 3.x SDK?

2012-01-18 Thread Deirdre Holub
I want to stress this point. If the 3.x SDK does not make it in to Apache Flex, then all current code written in 3.x immediately becomes legacy code with no obvious path forward. Once that happens, it becomes much harder to argue in favor of giving Apache Flex a chance instead of just switching now

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Rick Winscot
I'm on board Omar... that sounds like a good path forward. Not that my vote counts... ;-) -- Rick Winscot On Wednesday, January 18, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Doug McCune (mailto:d...@dougmccune.com)> wrote: > > > > > > > If we include bug > >

Re: OSGi bundle Plugin registry system

2012-01-18 Thread Michael Schmalle
Yeah what he said. And in older versions I was using a link report as a manifest that the bundle service would scan to find out if it needed to actually active the bundle, IE load the classes. The is straight from Eclipse in an environment of plugins that could easily have collisions and

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi, I just went through the list to pick out a few of my personal favorites. Several of these have two entries that are very similar. Does it make sense to give contestants a chance to withdraw entries? Just a thought. (PPMC hat) As far as a program to help: I think we need an html form which

Re: [jira] [Created] (FLEX-5) Check and adapt license headers

2012-01-18 Thread Rick Winscot
Bertrand All the old Adobe copyright / headers are null and void... visual confirmation that the old headers are removed and new headers are added and properly displayed... is what I was thinking. Is adobe expected to scrub the source before they commit it? -- Rick Winscot On Wednesday, Ja

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 1/18/2012 3:45 PM, Marcus Fritze wrote: Am 18.01.2012 um 21:18 schrieb Doug McCune: Someone should just whip up a quick hot-or-not app that shows you a logo and you click +1 or skip, on to the next one, and then you do that 50-something times and you're done. Not it. Here is my suggestion:

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > conveying the maturity and stability of the framework. I'm with Omar on this. This plan provides the easiest migration path and supports are enterprise clients that need support for 3.x and 4.x branches. 5.x will be something different and

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Shannon Hicks
Of course, such an app needs to be built in flex, and open-sourced on github. :) Shan On Jan 18, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Doug McCune wrote: >> >>> Someone should just whip up a quic

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Jonathan Campos wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Doug McCune wrote: > > > Someone should just whip up a quick hot-or-not app that shows you a logo > > and you click +1 or skip, on to the next one, and then you do that > > 50-something times and you're do

Re: [Discuss] Logo Designs

2012-01-18 Thread Marcus Fritze
Am 18.01.2012 um 21:18 schrieb Doug McCune: > Someone should just whip up a quick hot-or-not app that shows you a logo > and you click +1 or skip, on to the next one, and then you do that > 50-something times and you're done. Not it. Here is my suggestion: you can vote here: http

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Doug McCune wrote: > > > > If we include bug > > fixes or new features then maybe not. > > > One of the reasons for people being optimistic about the move to Apache is > the opportunity for bugs that people couldn't get Adobe to fix to get > fixed. To show progre

Re: OSGi bundle Plugin registry system

2012-01-18 Thread Rick Winscot
What is a registry system good for? Consider this... an application has loaded two modules and a request is made via reflection for class "Foo" ( think 'Class.forName()' in Java ). Module A: contains class Foo package plugins { public class Foo() { public function get bar1():String { re

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Doug McCune
> > If we include bug > fixes or new features then maybe not. One of the reasons for people being optimistic about the move to Apache is the opportunity for bugs that people couldn't get Adobe to fix to get fixed. To show progress and momentum I'd urge you all to try to fix some bugs and get rele

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Chris Martin
Yeah, i just caught the task entry. Sorry I just joined today. IF Adobe plan on continuing with their version numbers, then we should be mindful of that. Having "Adobe Flex SDK 4.6.1" and "Apache Flex 4.6.1" would confuse developers. I still think that version numbers like major.minor.minor.bu

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Carol Frampton
On 1/18/12 3 :28PM, "Rick Winscot" wrote: >Is anyone under the impression that they are going to be able to swap out >the Adobe Flex 4.6 SDK for Apache Flex 4.7 without issues??? I think we >are loosing track of the fact that what we are doing here in all >likelihood is _not_ going to be a drop-

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Om
I see a lot of checks like these all over the sdk code, third party libraries (and our own codebase): if(FlexVersion.compatibilityVersion < FlexVersion.VERSION_3_0 ) { ... } if(FlexVersion.compatibilityVersion < FlexVersion.VERSION_4_0) { ... } and so on... Moving to a year based version number

Re: jira task to decide on Apache Flex version number needed

2012-01-18 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Rick Winscot wrote: > Is anyone under the impression that they are going to be able to swap out > the Adobe Flex 4.6 SDK for Apache Flex 4.7 without issues??? I think we are > loosing track of the fact that what we are doing here in all likelihood is > _not_ going

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