> A lightweight browser would be welcome. Does anyone have a practical
> way to migrate bookmarks from Chrome or Chromium to such a lightweight
> browser?
qupzilla can import chromium bookmarks. i'm sure other actively
maintained browsers have the same capability.
- Gravis
think
> the effort of eventually tweaking firefox or chrome (i said
> eventually) is worth it at this moment.
why do you want to "tweak" browsers when you dont have to?
- Gravis
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:11 PM, T.J. Duchene
n performant programs and since it obfuscates, you will find it in
malware.
- Gravis
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 08:21:42AM +0200, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
>> > Just to clarify... *Java will run* with a grsecurity hardened kernel,
>
to the clips as "proof" that google was evil.
- Gravis
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:39 AM, Peter Olson wrote:
>> On March 5, 2015 at 11:26 PM Gravis wrote:
>
>> the link you posted links to a clip from Al Jazeera that was taken
>> down due to copyright infringement. y
are defending. you gave me links to some
posts and i do not know what those are supposed to signify.
> For now let's try and discuss just these two of my queries.
make a new topic if you have a question.
- Gravis
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:59 PM, wrote:
> This is textual represe
> I was derided and attacked earlier in Debian Fora
why am i not surprised? -_-
- Gravis
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:44 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 09:41:52PM +0200, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
>> **Looks around**
>>
>> Full moon tonight?
>
> Well, I don't
as a matter of fact, it is!
http://www.moongiant.com/Full_Moon_New_Moon_Calendar.php
the good news is that friday the 13th wont coincide with a full moon
for another 34 years. turns out, the last one was this past June.
- Gravis
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Martijn Dekkers
wrote
at offender and thus correctly deemed untrustworthy.
your other comments pointing to forum posts are nebulous in meaning.
- Gravis
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:51 PM, wrote:
> I want to add my thoughts and feelings to this conversation.
>
> But since this is my first message to this list, her
e the public key is
not available: NO_PUBKEY 94532124541922FB
that's all.
--Gravis
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Luke Diamand wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'm trying to switch over my system to use the devuan packages (amd64 for
> now, armv7 if I get keen). What do I need to do to
Nik, please remove yourself from the mailing list.
--Gravis
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 schrieb Gravis:
>> > Here is just one example of what I am referring to.
>> > http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us
> This way it would be much easier to count which
> release it is, and it would serve as an indication that devuan has
> already it's own personality, and isn't only a debian's copy.
that is a poor rationale for breaking a logical naming scheme.
--Gravis
On Thu, Mar
ens of thousands of
distros, so expecting a software vendor to make a backported package
for $MY_FAV_DISTRO is narcissistic at best.
--Gravis
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:48 PM, John Morris wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 21:09 -0500, Jude Nelson wrote:
>> > Besides issues related to Chro
ot child pornography from.
you wrote "considering their ties to government agencies" and the FBI
is a government agency.
--Gravis
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:23 PM, Ed Ender wrote:
> Here is just one example of what I am referring to.
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun
> So, basically we will be using mithology for names.
1) spelling
2) basically, just series of letters but one might call that an
oversimplification. they are the names of minor planets.
--Gravis
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Ricardo Larrañaga
wrote:
> So, basically we will be
orting child pornography to the FBI as legally required
by law?
--Gravis
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Ed Ender wrote:
> Personally, I would rather stay away from the world of Google. Although I
> have no real say in the matter.
> That IMO would be a security breach, considering the
ation. check it out:
http://www.qupzilla.com
--Gravis
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Anto wrote:
> Hello Everybody,
>
> I guess it is very likely that the first release of Devuan will use the
> re-branded Mozilla products.
>
> As far as I understood, the main reason for the re-
anings of minor planet names: 1–500
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meanings_of_minor_planet_names:_1%E2%80%93500>
--Gravis
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Robert Storey
wrote:
> Just want to say that I really like this idea of naming releases after
> minor planets, such as Ceres. I
y need to leave them to their
devices. in the mean time, building our safe haven, devuan is a much
better use of our time than fighting in their forums.
--Gravis
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Tom Collins wrote:
> I was reading the debian-user mailing list some time ago and one of th
important to
maintain perspective because when you lose it, you become just another
irrational fool.
--Gravis
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Anto wrote:
> On 04/03/15 04:49, Gravis wrote:
>>
>> from: http://php.net/manual/en/install.fpm.php
>> FPM (FastCGI Process Manager
wall and you might as well put in a nice window too. :)
--Gravis
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Franco Lanza wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 04:19:06AM -0300, hellekin wrote:
>> ## Editorial
>>
>> It's hard to believe it's winter when you have to mop th
it was enabled because
"everybody is using systemd, so why not?" and i expect it will happen
even more in the future.
--Gravis
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Anto wrote:
> Hello Everybody,
>
> I feel like being forced to (indirectly) use libsystemd0 on my VPS just now.
&
ter about that?
you sound like a lot like a troll.
--Gravis
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Tom Collins wrote:
> Yes, that is what I mean (Video Lan Client)
> It also phones home these days by default:
> http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/downloading-and-installing-vlc-media-player-i
consider grouping your emails as "conversations" as it is a wonderful
option for organizing mailing list threads.
instructions to enable on yahoo mail:
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/conversations-feature-enabled-disabled-sln15805.html
--Gravis
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Go Linux wr
ailing around of code written
in Python, Perl or Ruby :)"
you said you didn't see the code failing, i explained why you didn't
see it and that it is happening.
--Gravis
On 03/02/2015 08:13 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 07:01:24AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
&
number of GC languages, it would still be an issue. while it /can/ be
used properly, garbage collection is more of a hassle than it's worth.
--Gravis
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 4:26 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 02:59:40AM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>
> Having [perl and python] doesn't cost much, IMO.
this is true however, you only need a single deep-seeded flaw to
exploit an entire system when it comes to scripting. for further
reading, see bash.
--Gravis
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:18 AM, Joel Roth wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 01, 20
now we're tech support?
remove "-net nic -net user" (works for me)
--Gravis
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I installed Valentines according to instructions, a few weeks ago. It
> worked, but I don't remember whether I tested g
POSIX base to build upon. the LSB is a
bad joke.
--Gravis
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 11:49 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> On Sat, 2015-02-28 at 18:11 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
>>
>> With all respect, T.J., those are merely programming languages--shell, C
>> and C++ are als
mong other services) is automatically marking
your emails as spam since they are claimed to have been sent _by_
yahoo's server but yahoo's server is denying it. either you are not
using yahoo's server to actually send your emails or the mailing list
server is misconfigured.
--Gravi
removing would simply result in replacing it with another and thus a
(mostly) moot point.
--Gravis
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Steve Litt
wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 13:34:37 -0500
> Jude Nelson wrote:
>
> > > I don't know. Given the entire NetworkManager'
trying to look different for the sake of looking different is stupid.
--Gravis
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Nuno Magalhães
wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Go Linux wrote:
> >> And why penguins? I think in terms of non-conformity, the platypus
> >> makes muc
frankly, i find the "badges" to be a petty jab at other distros that is
more of a distraction than anything else.
--Gravis
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:30 PM, hellekin wrote:
> On 02/27/15 16:21, Ста Деюс wrote:
> >
> > Awesome! As it is the planet-wide project,
coming from the person that has the initials for "shut the hell up" as
their signature.
--Gravis
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Ста Деюс wrote:
> В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:39:10 +
> Noel Torres пишет:
>
> > I do not find it swear nor violent. I find way more violent to
the first two things happen if there is any hope of the
third happening.
--Gravis
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:13 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 01:56:56PM +, Matthew Melton wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > >
> > > Just to support my point, Debian has
> http://www.saynotogmos.org/ss/penguins/trio.png
ha! it just needs words like "Linux: Strut your stuff" [?]
--Gravis
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Go Linux wrote:
> On Thu, 2/26/15, Linuxito wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Dng] simple backgrounds
> To: "Anto&quo
er.
there is a bit more to cgroups than that but there is no reason another
init manager can't perform the same task without becoming The Blob.
--Gravis
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Steve Litt
wrote:
> [Sorry Gravis, I could find no shorter way to say this]
>
>
> On Wed
oh good. glad to read that our linux kernel friends are more sane than our
distro friends.
--Gravis
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:47 AM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:40:06AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:26:01AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
>
ha! jude it's perfect. if there was ever a Master Control Program, it
would be systemd. ;)
--Gravis
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Jude Nelson wrote:
> If we're going to make allusions to media, my suggestion comes from TRON:
> "Devuan fights for the Users"
&g
BIOS. As
recent news has shown, we also need to start writing new firmware for our
hard drives. Since so many things have shown to be insecure, the question
has becomes if it's worth reverse engineering proprietary systems versus
engineering a libre systems from the ground up.
--Gravis
On Su
it and decided to make their own.
--Gravis
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Jude Nelson wrote:
> Nevertheless, RPC had already been solved in a general way by SunRPC
> (ONCRPC) before either GNOME or KDE existed. Heck, the earliest versions
> predate Linux.
>
> Given the combine
> > CDE (common desktop environment)
> Not familiar with that. Is it related to Inferno?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment
now what is "Inferno"?
--Gravis
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Hendrik Boom
wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:36:20
Also, D-Bus is written in the fashion that
matches how the GTK API which is a C API. libdbus has lots of language
wrappers.
D-Bus is more for RPC than IPC which is an issue as there is no standard in
POSIX for RPC.
--Gravis
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> Le 20
massive scope of
the software they are distributing.
tl;dr: Quality Control is very very very important.
--Gravis
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:36 AM, hal wrote:
> Hello all, and great work on the Alpha! I am tagging this off-topic as it
> doesn't really pertain to Devuan development except i
Luke, I removed the edit because it was completely out of place. It was a
list of links and you added a huge line of text to a single entry.
without-systemd.org is not directly linked to Devuan, so dont hold it
against the project.
- Gravis
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson
> A document that makes installation and use trivial, and makes it
> simple, is worth its weight in gold.
the instructions dont actually weigh anything so saying it's worth it's
weight in gold is saying they aren't worth anything. ;)
--Gravis
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:36
ting with
> pulseaudio) where applications check at *runtime* if libsystemd0 is
> available, rather than hard-code the functionality directly in.
be sure you keep a record or your conversation, i could use a good laugh.
-Gravis
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:17 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
>
> Should we understand it's based on POSIX permissions and not on ad hoc
daemon?
yes. however, there is currently a problem with flooding the system with
hundreds of new users and groups. i'm investigating the possibility of
using extended file attributes.
--Gravis
On Mon, Feb 1
st have to apply them
properly.
- Gravis
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Hi folks.
>
> Considering Devuan is a major lifeboat of free Linux-based OS, I'm
> anxious about its destiny and therefore trying to figure out who is
> onboard, I mean the audi
> What exactly does IPC have to do with patching?
the patching is done via IPC.
--Gravis
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Vlad <2389...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What exactly does IPC have to do with patching?
>
> On Feb 15, 2015 5:22 PM, "Jaromil" wrote:
>>
>
a self-propagating virus bricks millions of cars
so... the question is if should we wait for bad things to happen to
lots of people or should we brick one jerk's limo.
--Gravis
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:50:53PM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote:
> * returning to manual keyboard and mouse configuration in Xorg
where did it move to before? xorg.conf is something that should never go away.
--Gravis
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Luke Leighton wrote:
> aspodata.se> writes:
>
>>
>> Luke Kenneth Casson Leight
at it could proposed as an extension of the spec. maybe there is
still time to do this before kdbus becomes too heavily used. question
though what is "IVI"?
--Gravis
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Jude Nelson wrote:
> I think we're significantly overblowing the impact of kdbus.
> Kernel live patching makes KDBUS and systemD support mandatory!
i'm weary of KDBUS but live patching is something i consider too dangerous.
--Gravis
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, wrote:
> As you may have read, Linus Torvalds considers to call the next Linux
> release 4.0 i
e parts of
stable/testing/unstable/experimental debian with parts of ubuntu and
mint just fine without having to clear my system. Why would i need to
wipe it for Devuan?
--Gravis
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 8:12 AM, KatolaZ wrot
ng as we dont
make absurdly radical changes, it should be easy for derivatives and
independent packagers to switch to the Devuan base.
--Gravis
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 3:12 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 04:01:58PM +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>
install IceWM? but-but-but it's C++, so it's large and bloated,
right? right??? ಠ_ಠ
--Gravis
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 09:30:58AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 07:33:51 +0200
>> Martijn Dekkers w
steve, vdev has nothing to do with the screen resolution and will not
alter it any more than a "Hello World" program would.
--Gravis
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi Jude,
>
> I have no idea if this would be possible, but if it is, it would be
> nice
are merely interfaces to systemd with no
functionality of their own.
--Gravis
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Ed Ender wrote:
> libsystemd-daemon0 and libsystemd-login0 are installed by default, at least
> they are in Kali 1.1.0 (2015-02-09).
>
> Other than that I don't know w
My question is, is it part of the default installation or did you
(inadvertently) add it afterwards?
--Gravis
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Clarke Sideroad
wrote:
> On 10/02/15 11:34 PM, Ed Ender wrote:
>
> On 2015-02-10 19:52, Wim wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Mark inquire
s off mark.
--Gravis
On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Usspookes Lovesystemd
wrote:
> Could you please revive bastille linux for devuan. It's an essential hardining
> script and it is unlikely anyone will have a secure system without it.
> For some reason on the newer debian 7s it does no
piler that runs on a Windows 7 PC but generates code
that runs on Android smartphone is a cross compiler."
--Gravis
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:33 PM, mutek wrote:
>> Il 10/02/2015 10:30 Gravis ha scritto:
>> to my knowledge, cross compilation has minimal overhead. while havi
> It doesn't work on a majority of packages, as I understand (build scripts
> that rely on running compiled code, that don't respect CC, and many other
> causes.)
oh that's dreadful. sounds like something that should be fixed and
submitted upstream.
--Gravis
On Tue,
banana pi uses the ARMv7 architecture which is the same architecture
that raspberry pi 2 uses. you should be able to use the same
software, as long as you have a working bootloader. however, you may
have to recompile the kernel to include the drivers you need.
--Gravis
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at
or an i486 cpu will run on an i386 cpu.
--Gravis
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 5:09 AM, Renaud OLGIATI
wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 03:30:29 -0500
> Gravis wrote:
>
>> i'm actually getting a couple of Pi 2 boards to use as thin clients.
>> be assured, ARMv7 packages will
to my knowledge, cross compilation has minimal overhead. while having
native targets is good for testing, it won't have a significant impact
on compile time.
--Gravis
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 4:22 AM, Jaromil wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Feb 2015, Gravis wrote:
>> be assured, ARMv7 pa
> It will probably be a few months before I can buy one in my part of the world
> (Taiwan)
now that is irony.
i'm actually getting a couple of Pi 2 boards to use as thin clients.
be assured, ARMv7 packages will be made.
--Gravis
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Robert Storey wrot
> Personally, I see absolutely no use for splash screens or "quiet".
what i'm reading here is, "it's not MY preference and I'm important."
--Gravis
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 17:47:42 -0500
> Gravis wrote
> From my perspective, Grub2 is the systemd or bootloaders.
grub2 is well tested, does only one thing, has no interdependencies
and is easily removed/replaced. so tell me, how is it the "systemd of
boatloaders"?
--Gravis
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On
> And we should first vote for ideas, not implementations, so that in
> the second stage everyone could draw own version of the winning idea.
I agree, which is why the various uploaded logos should be considered
concepts rather than final products.
-- Gravis
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:52
I'm not really a fan of any bootloaders but grub2 has always worked
which is more than i can say for other bootloaders.
-- Gravis
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Cegiełka
wrote:
> 2015-02-08 22:13 GMT+01:00 T.J. Duchene :
>> On Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:00:
0
you may have to force other packages too but this will make
policykit-1 work without systemd.
--Gravis
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2015 05 Feb 08:26 -0600, macondo wrote:
>> Hi, i can't install the firewall gufw on jessie because i nuked
>>
please, let's not include terrorists or their ideologies in our conversations.
--Gravis
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:30 PM, hellekin wrote:
> On 02/04/2015 03:03 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>
>>>>> Is not ISIL a better analogy?
>>
>> But not the analogy I w
Neo Futur,
why don't the TDE people just submit their packages to Debian?
--Gravis
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Neo Futur wrote:
> ( being on the two mailing lists I m cross posting on the TDE mailing
> list so they know devuan could be interested in supporting TDE . . . )
>
&g
> Never heard of TDE, so I can't compare it to that.
TDE is "Trinity Desktop Environment" which in reality is just KDE 3,
like MATE is Gnome 2.
--Gravis
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Gordon Haverland
wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 22:27:43 +0100
> Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
can just
recompile programs with the flag to exclude systemd library
dependencies with no further effort required. the things that are
really intertwined with systemd are part of Gnome. patches and API
implementations are being made for those parts.
--Gravis
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:54 PM,
jude is correct, kernel mode setting resolved this a shade under a
decade ago. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_setting
--Gravis
On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Jude Nelson wrote:
>> (If I recall correctly, non-root X is only possible with systemd or
>> on openbsd, so t
ely.
That said, the initial release of Devuan will have the minimal amount
of changes to enable people to choose to not have systemd.
--Gravis
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 8:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 00:19:55 +0100
> Svante Signell wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2015-01-30 at
thanks for the info, Adam. i'll be sure to test it though that's
about all that can be done for the first release.
-Gravis
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:21:56AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
>> after that i dont know but we wou
FI (Extensible Firmware Interface)
> specification. Some of the EFI's practices and data formats mirror those from
> Microsoft Windows.[5][6] In 2005, UEFI deprecated EFI 1.10 (the final release
> of EFI). The Unified EFI Forum manages the UEFI specification.
-Gravis
On Tue, Jan 2
the first release will be almost the same as debian with the exception
of packages needing systemd. after that i dont know but we would need
hardware to test on to make any direct changes.
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Robert Storey wrote:
> Hello everyone. This is my first post, though I've
karl, what's with the hostility? vdev is by no means required and
nothing depends on it, so nobody is being forced to even install it.
also, since it is based on FUSE, it won't actually add/remove static
device files, so when the program exits, it will go back to your
static device files. you can
so about TRIOS, what's the deal with the forum site https://foss.rs?
it claims in the metadata to be lang="en-US" and thusly google
_REFUSES_ to translate it because it's "already in English".
-Gravis
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Dragan FOSS wrote:
>
> &
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