> Hence my original suggestion: for a distro > that's still trying to get on its feet, a lightweight browser would > probably be best, like midori, dillo or something else.
right because giving people the option of using their prefered browser is a bad idea! > I don't think > the effort of eventually tweaking firefox or chrome (i said > eventually) is worth it at this moment. why do you want to "tweak" browsers when you dont have to? - Gravis On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Nuno Magalhães <nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt> wrote: > On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:11 PM, T.J. Duchene <t.j.duch...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> "Go look at the code, it's open" is a common "argument" i hear from >>> pro-systemd advocates. Curious. About looking at the code: have you >>> personally audited chrome's code, top to bottom, OpenBSD-style? 'Cos if you >>> haven't - it is a big piece of software -, well your argument is moot >> >> Nuno, when I say this, I'm not trying to be rude, or nasty or mean. The >> fact that you don't like Google is noted, and accepted. >> >> If you aren't going to make the effort to look at the code, please do not >> pass judgment on the authors or their efforts. Otherwise, you are offering >> only second hand knowledge: hearsay and not fact. That's not an argument >> associated with systemd, that is the whole point of open source. It is >> actually about the level of trust. No one can possibly argue that the code >> is tainted or not when they have not reviewed the code. Nor has anyone on >> this list likely to have reviewed the vast majority of the code for all of a >> Linux distribution. Either Devuan trusts the community to police the code >> or it doesn't. > > Unfortunately i don't have time to look at every bit of code of the > software i use. I do trust the majority of open-source software out > there, without looking at its code. I don't think i need to look at > the code for that. > >> Just to be clear, I did not advocate "Chrome" at any point. Chromium is >> not Chrome. A derived software is not the same as the original. Chrome is >> made from Chromium, not the other way around. Much the same way, >> LibreOffice is NOT the original OpenOffice, nor is Lotus Symphony. > > Me neither and i wrote "chromium" when i actually meant "chrome", my > bad. Since you didn't answer the original question i'm going to assume > you did look at chromium's code. Please share your insights. While i > inderstand the stability of forking a process for every tab i don't > see the benefit of the performance penalty. Maybe i'm wrong. > > I - personally - use chromium sometimes as i, as you've noticed, > dislike Google yet some IE-ish sites work better on chromium than they > do on firefox. Chromium seems fast but lacks a few plugins i use in > Firefox. Unfortunately, they're both memory hogs (as far as my > experience with them goes). Hence my original suggestion: for a distro > that's still trying to get on its feet, a lightweight browser would > probably be best, like midori, dillo or something else. I don't think > the effort of eventually tweaking firefox or chrome (i said > eventually) is worth it at this moment. > > Still, that's the beauty of open-source: even if one of these two > browsers gets chosen, i can, if i want, use something else. As can > you. > >> I think after this, I'm going to lessen responding to the general list. I'm >> *not* pointing fingers at you, Nuno or anyone's behavior. I am just as >> guilty of the same, but any time I decide to spend on Devuan could be more >> productive: better spent packaging or coding. I "totally get" the need to >> vent, or just rant sometimes - but the constant antagonism toward certain >> software, their authors, and the paranoia is starting to get to me. Some of >> the discussions have been great! I especially liked the one on languages. >> However, most seem to go nowhere. > > Indeed any time spent on packaging or coding is time well-spent, thank > you. I do try to vent as little as possible and try doing so in a > rational and civilized manner. However, as has recently happened here > on the list, maybe some cultural nuances flew by me (english is not my > native language) and i may've offended you somehow. If so, my > apologies. > >> Is there a dev list available where I can track the progress of Devuan >> toward Alpha? > > This discussion has been brought up before and the general consensus > was not to split this list into dev- and user-. My take on that at the > time was that not splitting makes sure both sides (if you see sides; i > don't -- and didn't say you do) stay in touch and blurr the lines a > bit -- it's sane for both to "keep each other in check" and to know > what the other is doing. Obviously this is only my opinion. > > Cheers, > Nuno > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
