please, let's not include terrorists or their ideologies in our conversations. --Gravis
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:30 PM, hellekin <helle...@dyne.org> wrote: > On 02/04/2015 03:03 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: >> >>>>> Is not ISIL a better analogy? >> >> But not the analogy I was driving at. The Taliban is a movement that >> started focused on Afghanistan - a revolutionary movement. ISIL's >> mission is to (re)establish an Islamic Caliphate over a broad swatch of >> territory (kind of like the Borg). The later seems a lot more like what >> is happening with systemd. >> >> Miles Fidelman >> >> > > The "Islamic Caliphate" and the general media attention of ISIL seem to > me to respond to an ideological warfare painted in Samuel Huntington's > 1996 opus "The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order". > > Honestly, considering "The West" and "Islam(ism)" as monolithic entities > fighting each other is a bit like confusing porn with eroticism, or > McDonald's with food -- or war with peace. > > This heavy tendency of "Western" ideologists and mass media to draw > subtle portraits with chainsaws and bulldozers is not at all helpful > neither in understanding the phenomenon of the rise of ISIL in the > Middle-East nor to understand the various forms of Islam, nor to > understand each other as human beings, and of course it does not help > bringing a sane view of complexity. > > I like Poettering's own choice of the Borg, because it illustrates the > contradiction and paradox of his real-fictional action. Systemd is > doing to the free software world what Microsoft was doing in its time to > the computer world: it pushes the incentives of "progress", in the sense > of fugue, to wrap a monolithic construct (Linux) with a monolithic shell > (systemd) that will do it all and better than anyone else just because, > please don't ask, you should know. > > Yes, the Borg. An invasive, unavoidable plague that will make its way > like a caries down to the core of an aching tooth. I've seen the > presentation with all the Borg illustrations, and frankly, I thought on > some slides: how is that an advantage? Certainly Mr. Poettering is in > love with his own mind and logic, but I would certainly not appreciate > his poetry. > > The concept of "Pensée Unique", the "unique train of thought" that is > delivered year after year by the all powerful "too big to fail" Western > ideology has brought its heavy muddy boots into the free software world. > That most of distributions adopted systemd however remains less a sign > of quality and engineering prowess than a mix of developer laziness, > good marketing, and general short-sightedness -- remember SSL is still > around, and there's nothing worse than a bad idea whose time has come. > > That said, I wish the Devuan community-in-the-making would bring to a > halt the criticism of Systemd and especially when it comes to demonizing > it and making hardly appropriate comparisons, and start focusing on how > we can make the best *universal* free software operating system that is > not stuck in monomania, in bureaucracy, nor in the 1990s (although it > should definitely be working on HDDs as well). > > Regards, > > == > hk > > -- > _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom > (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/ > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
