> I was derided and attacked earlier in Debian Fora why am i not surprised? -_-
- Gravis On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:44 PM, <miroslav.rov...@zg.ht.hr> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 09:41:52PM +0200, Martijn Dekkers wrote: >> **Looks around** >> >> Full moon tonight? > > Well, I don't respond in kind. I was derided and attacked earlier in > Debian Fora, but my topics and my tips ended up being read and > followed. And they are in Gentoo Fora. > > I'd just point to two kind posts related to my work by golinux which I > mentioned in my first post, and who I greet with respect again, and > which I related to devuan, which, like many of you, I do pin a lot of my > hopes on: > > Topic: devuan > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=119155&p=564686#p564686 > > How to Remove Systemd and Related Packages from Your Debian > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=118197&start=15#p564494 > > But of most concern to me, is about what I'd like to contribute, which I > believe I'll be able to do, barring my health getting poorer yet and > enmity in my surrounding getting harsher yet... > > (the enmity surrounding explained in the previous message, the first > one, also contained below, and seen here: > https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150305.175104.c6924211.en.html > and BTW every single link is live in my message at this time.), > > [But my concern is about what I'd like to contribute], just like I > contributed to Debian which has now crippled itself with the > windozing/poetterizing and is now not a place to be... > > I still hope someone can try and figure that those thousands of views of > my tips may not be a fruit of what Martijn Dekkers suggests. > > And I saw, belatedly, and in bottom of my: > >> > Grsecurity/Pax installation on Debian GNU/Linux >> > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=108616 > > (the very last post) tip you can read why I wasn't able to follow earlier... > > And I saw, belatedly, and read most of it, the few discussions on dbus, > and I only want to say that an opt-out of dbus is needed, and it has > been attainable in Debian, thanks to Thorsten mirabilos Glasier and his work. > > It is workable as I demonstated here: > > How to Remove Systemd and Related Packages from Your Debian > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=118197&start=15 > > (and that is a repeated link)... > > I count dbus in poetterware-related. You don't have to. I do. Pls. allow > for that option! > > My take on it you can have also here: > > Updating and keeping your Gentoo non-poeterized > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1012022.html > > Just my new sig in bottom, no more new stuff in this message. >> On 5 March 2015 at 19:51, <miroslav.rov...@zg.ht.hr> wrote: >> >> > I want to add my thoughts and feelings to this conversation. >> > >> > But since this is my first message to this list, here're a few links of >> > my tips, user-to-user (I'm not an expert and I'm just a fraction of a >> > programmer if at all), [user-to-user] tips: >> > >> > Grsecurity/Pax installation on Debian GNU/Linux >> > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=108616 >> > >> > How to Remove Systemd and Related Packages from Your Debian >> > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=118197 >> > >> > How to avoid stealth installation of systemd? >> > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=116770 >> > >> > And I'll stick one link below exactly where there is a special line, in >> > this >> > thread I'm replying to, that touched a nerve in my guts. >> > >> > But I am more of a Gentoo user still (since 2008, Debian since 2013 I >> > think). >> > Such as: >> > >> > Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative >> > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268.html >> > >> > Uninstalling dbus and *kits (to Unfacilitate Remote Seats) >> > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-992146.html >> > >> > I'm not giving you those links for no reason. While I am not a >> > programmer, or am just minimally one, I have extensive user (of late it >> > has become advanced user) experience with censorship and even >> > surveillance that a user, in a country ruled by a regime, is exposed to >> > (have unveiled it for everybody to see, and will give another two links >> > below exactly where there is a special line that touched a nerve in my >> > guts). >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 03:28:59AM -0500, Gravis wrote: >> > > Nik, please remove yourself from the mailing list. >> > > --Gravis >> > Completely wrong, as attitude and even as merely a wish! Somebody stated >> > elsewhere in these few days on this list: it's free software, and it's >> > open source! Contrary from banning other people's opinions, we must >> > allow them. >> > >> > I agree completely with Nick, but I won't jump on you >> > Gravis, as I don't jump on some Gentoo members who, well, support NSA, >> > and troll against me... I'll let them like SELinux, Google and other >> > stuff which I despise! As long as they let me tell other members what I >> > think and suggest of SELinux, Google and stuff! And tell what I advise >> > that they use and generally do! >> > >> > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp <dr.kl...@gmx.at> >> > wrote: >> > > > Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 schrieb Gravis: >> > > >> > Here is just one example of what I am referring to. >> > > >> > >> > http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data >> > > >> >> > > >> yeah, if you actually read the article you will learn that google >> > > >> (like everyone else) complies with the law. if you look further, you >> > > >> learn that the NSA tapped private fiber lines for both google and >> > > >> yahoo. so what exactly did google do to offend you? >> > >> > Don't know about Nick, but I can tell what they did to offend *me*: >> > >> > Really? The Surveillance Engine Terminated All My Videos >> > http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=113059 >> > >> > And this is where they let the local regime do what they like against >> > me: >> > >> > a clickjacking that only packets captured show: >> > Postfix smtp/TLS, Bkp/Cloning Mthd, Censorship/Intrusion >> > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-999436.html#7685200 >> > >> > and: >> > >> > brute mess-up of my connection: >> > Air-Gapped Gentoo Install, Tentative >> > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-987268-start-25.html#7552466 >> > (identified the files right after it happened back in 2014, revealed all >> > only >> > these days) >> > >> > How about that, Gravis? The good do-no-evil Google? Ruining 5 yrs of my >> > work? >> > And the other two links are just samples of pranks and filthy routines >> > from my nearly everyday life with my dear regime online? >> > >> > NOTE: All the links above I've checked before posting, barring future >> > double-check report on any that was not right, further down this email >> > thread. For future readers from the archives. >> > > >>is your >> > > >> objection that they were hacked by the NSA or that they strong armed >> > > >> by the NSA? >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > reporting child pornography to the FBI as legally required by law? >> > > >> > I don't understand where you got child pornography from. >> > > >> >> > > >> you wrote "considering their ties to government agencies" and the FBI >> > > >> is a government agency. >> > > >> --Gravis >> > > > >> > > > Sorry, no. FBI, NSA and US as a whole is a hostile government. >> > Cooperation is forbidden by law (at least for normal citizens). Please do a >> > realitycheck outside US. >> > > > >> > Right! Cooperation is against Free Open Source Software natural laws and >> > declared customs! >> > >> > > > Nik >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also >> > sharing with the NSA. >> > > > >> > I really like this line! >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > Dng mailing list >> > > > Dng@lists.dyne.org >> > > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Dng mailing list >> > > Dng@lists.dyne.org >> > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >> > >> > Pls. bear in mind, if I'm missing to reply to you (but I might be late, >> > my health is unstable and I generally work slowly, old age)... [If I'm >> > missing to reply to you], it could be another prank of my dear regime... >> > >> > And greetings here to golinux, who is a fine person, and you know, >> > golinux, I miss edbarx, keithpeter and other who conversed met with on >> > Debian Forums, and I hope many of them will soon join us in Devuan. >> > -- > -- > Miroslav Rovis > Zagreb, Croatia > http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr > > _______________________________________________ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
