Re: libre.computer

2018-01-23 Thread Frank Nicholas via devel
Unless the boards garner the same community/distro support as the Raspberry Pis, I don’t think they will go very far. It’s the community support that makes the Raspberry Pi so successful. Thanks, Frank Nicholas +1 812 764 6494 signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP __

Re: Upcoming feature freeze

2017-08-23 Thread Frank Nicholas via devel
On Aug 23, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Eric S. Raymond via devel wrote: > > #55: ntpd refclock GPSD_JSON just stops working. > > I am unhappy with this driver. I believe - as this bug demonstrates - > that it's too crappy to ship if we want to establish and maintain a > reputation for trouble-free opera

Re: Timekeeping oddities on MacMini G4s

2017-02-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
I’ve had mine apart many times (for memory upgrade, sensors for use in a vehicle, etc. - http://mt.nfshost.com ) Tell me what to look for, and I’ll take as many hi-res pictures as you want. Thanks, Frank > On Feb 4, 2017, at 10:32 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > Mumble. If it were easier to take a

Re: Clocks broken on Mac mini

2017-01-30 Thread Frank Nicholas
That Mac Mini (Late 2005) was sold with either 1.3GHz or 1.5GHz, per Mactracker. Looks like you do have the 1.5GHz version. Frank Nicholas > On Jan 30, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > > > Ahhh goodies from syslog: > Jan 30 04:30:44 deb-ppc kernel: [0.00

Re: Problem with GPSD refclock

2017-01-26 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jan 26, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > >> Check out the M.2 standard. PCIe + USB on one connector: > > Is that PCIe + USB or PCIe or USB? > It can be any of those configurations. Depends on the hardware manufacturers (slot & module) implementation. Thanks, Frank __

Re: sys_fuzzMime-Version: 1.0

2017-01-25 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jan 24, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > > Some of these older systems, like G5 Macintosh, may be a good test. > > Prolly should test in some VM's too. > I have a Mac mini G4 & 2 x Power Mac G5’s I’m willing to install any OS on for someone to use for testing or buildbot'ing

Re: Big endian success

2017-01-22 Thread Frank Nicholas
On Jan 22, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Hal Murray : >>> What CPU in it? Been a while since Mac's were not Intel. >> >> I got an old one with a PowerPC G4. They aren't hard to find. > > Hm...can we get that one, or another G4 Mini, hooked up to the build farm? > -- >

Re: Comments on Replacing C

2017-01-09 Thread Frank Nicholas
On Jan 8, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > context. Is the extra hardware one per chip, or one per CPU? > If “extra hardware” refers to AES or CBC type encryption, it is a per core thing. The crypto hardware is extra instructions supported by the CPU (core). With hyper threading, I wou

Re: Replacing C (was: Re: The end of the beginning is in sight)

2017-01-08 Thread Frank Nicholas
> >>> 3. Move the codebase to Go or Rust? >> >> While I understand what kind of problem you're trying to solve, at the >> moment I see neither of those two languages survive for long if their >> current parent projects change course (again). > > I'm not worried about that for Go, because Google

Re: Grappling with Go

2016-12-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Dec 20, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > There's a new draft blog post in the repo titled "Grappling with Go” I just cloned "https://github.com/ntpsec/ntpsec.git ” and don’t find the document. Am I looking in the wrong repo? Thanks, Fra

Re: broadcastclient ?

2016-12-17 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Dec 17, 2016, at 1:46 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > fr...@nicholasfamilycentral.com said: >> Most modern retail routers/WiFi access points will distribute NTP via DHCP. > > Right. But who sets that up? > > What I was trying to say is that most retail ISPs don't have their own NTP > servers

Re: broadcastclient ?

2016-12-17 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Dec 17, 2016, at 3:00 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > > >> I would have been more worried about dropping these things, but it seems to >> me from search-engining the issue that to the extent automatic server >> discovery was ever actually used in Unix-land, those use cases have largely >> been tak

Re: ✘ARM cross compile

2016-12-07 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Dec 7, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Yo All! > > I am trying to get an ARM cross compile of NTPsec working. Has anyone > figure this out? Right now I am trying on Ubuntu, but any OS will do. > > I'm stuck trying to get Ubuntu to install libpython2.7.a > I used to cross-c

SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 64-bit for Raspberry Pi 3

2016-11-24 Thread Frank Nicholas
A supported 64-bit Linux has officially arrived on the Raspberry Pi 3. Because it is SUSE Linux Enterprise Server, I expect it to be more stable (fewer changes) than Raspbian (if SLES/SLED is any indication). SLES is offered at no cost with a free subscription for a year of updates. SUSE foru

Re: Requesting review of "Eliminate some pointless gymnastics in the config parser."

2016-07-08 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 12:28 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > (1) Sometimes the item would directly set a field in the new node. This > is the case with ttl and minpoll. > > (2) For flag items, such as iburst and xleave, the iterm would get put > on a newly created list attached to the node. Late

Re: Kernel PPS processing

2016-07-04 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jul 4, 2016, at 7:19 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > >> There seems to be nothing up yet for the BCM2837 (Pi3), but it's >> basically just replacing the A7 cluster in the BCM2836 with an A8 >> cluster. > > Yeah, I'm wondering why the dealy in Linux kernel for 64 bit A8? > In one of the posts

Re: Kernel PPS processing

2016-07-04 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jul 3, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Yo Achim! > > On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 12:10:44 +0200 > Achim Gratz wrote: > >> Eric S. Raymond writes: >>> Gary E. Miller : Anyone got a guess what the equivalent RasPi setting to turn off power saving would be? >>> >>> turbo=

Re: ModMyPi case - Now I've seen it, I don't like it

2016-06-19 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 18, 2016, at 8:22 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > (Memo to self: Aaarrggh! Get heatsinks for all machines!) > This really isn’t needed. Design limits are 70C on the low end (Raspberry Pi FAQs - Frequently Asked Questions

Re: refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-10 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 9, 2016, at 9:58 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Frank Nicholas : >> I can tell you from experience, that with the Adafruit hat, and the default >> sentences, 9600 baud is not fast enough. Some periodic sentences (period > >> few seconds) will push a cy

Re: refclock 28 gone wacky on me

2016-06-09 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 9, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Clockmaker is not even released, much less widely tested. 9600 baud > is the default speed for the Adafruit and Uputronics HATs and as > we are still characterizing those we can not yet know if that is a good > speed for those yet. I can

Re: microserver HOWTO timeservice patch

2016-06-08 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > > + # Make sure the UART device is in a good state > + stty -F /dev/gpsd0 raw 9600 cs8 clocal -cstopb > > This assumes the GPS is at 9600 baud, I usually up the speed for better > performance, 9600 is margina

Military testing forcing FAA GPS outage advisory for US west coast

2016-06-08 Thread Frank Nicholas
Just an FYI for any that might be in the affected area: http://www.macnn.com/articles/16/06/08/advisory.warns.of.aeronautical.gps.outages.on.west.coast.134526/ Link to the FAA/military advisory (PDF): https://www.faasafety.gov/files/notices/2016/Jun/CHLK_16-08_GPS_Flight_Advisory.pdf _

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-08 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Yo Hal! > > I agree with Hal, my descriptions are a bit long and picky for > the newbie howto. Get that done, then these issues will get addressed > in due time. Please don’t remove the detail on the existing conf you are throwing around

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-08 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:52 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > But remember, Eric asked for MY config, not what I think others should be > using. I would hope we get a collection of slightly different ntp.conf > that are optimimized for different purposes, or levels of paranoia. I interpreted Eric’s

Re: State of the microserver HOWTO

2016-06-07 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:52 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > peer 204.17.205.1 maxpoll 5 # catbert > peer 204.17.205.17 maxpoll 5 # pi2 > #peer 204.17.205.23 maxpoll 5 # pi3 > peer 204.17.205.27 maxpoll 5 # kong > peer 204.17.205.30 maxpoll 5 > peer [2001:470:e815::8] maxpoll 5 # spider You are usin

Re: Testing: IPv6

2016-06-07 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > There is a typical discussion/flame-war in NANOG about Netflix blocking HE's > IPv6 tunnels. That reminds me that we should be sure we are testing IPv6. > > Is anybody running a system without IPv4? > I do have IPv6 available - I run dual

Re: State of the test farm

2016-06-06 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Accounts on all machines are available now. Email me for the confidential > access details. To avoid people stepping on each other while using these, you may want to consider some “sign-out” or “log book” for people to use them. I’d ha

Re: State of the test farm

2016-06-06 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Five Pis and an Odroid are now up and running, fully configured, and > ready for test/profiling use. The mix looks like this: > > au RasPi 2 Blue-wired SKU 424254 > cu RasPi 3 Uputronics GPS HAT > fe Ras

Re: My pre-1.0 wishlist

2016-06-06 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > COfirmed, if you are not logged in, you do not see the new issue button. > >> I have no GitLab account and wouldn’t have any stored cookies, etc. > > Send your bug report to this list, I, or someone else, will post it for you. I don’t

Re: My pre-1.0 wishlist

2016-06-06 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:39 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Achim Gratz : >> Eric S. Raymond writes: >>> Yes, that is the build system. Please open an issue on it and flag it >>> for Amar. >> >> Well, I can't. There's nothing on the "Issues" page for ntpsec that >> allows to create a new issue a

Re: [gpsd-dev] GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 2, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Attached is a phot of the mess. You can also see the heat sink I added > to the CPU. I put a couple of heatsinks on some of my Pi’s, (the one outside, etc.), but they’ve never been needed based on it’s internal temperature sensor. This

Re: [gpsd-dev] GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-03 Thread Frank Nicholas
Another quick note regarding power & the Raspberry Pi B+, 2 & 3 - the red Power LED will turn off to indicate if voltage drops below 4.63V. The Pi MIGHT continue to function Ok, but this is a clear indication of a power issue. It might be a good thing to point out in the HowTo that if the power

Re: [gpsd-dev] GR-701W hangs on Pi-3

2016-06-02 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On Jun 2, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Gary E. Miller : >>> Do you trust your power? The Pi 3 is even more picky than the Pi 2. >> >> The Pi people say 2 amps is not good enough, they recommend 2.5A. > > Gary, I've digested your remarks and my experirnce into a new section on

Re: Impact of ARP lookup on local NTP traffic

2016-05-31 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 31, 2016, at 12:18 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > RFC 826 defines ARP. It makes no mention of how long the timeout > should be. > > Cisco uses 4 hours. > > I can not find the info on OS X. From `man 4 arp` on OS X (El Capitan): The ARP cache is stored in the system routing table as

Inexpensive HDMI -> VGA adapters

2016-05-30 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 24, 2016, at 8:22 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Hal Murray : >> I like it. The disadvantage is that you may need some adapters. Has the >> world switched to HDMI yet? (I'm still using VGA and PS2, but I have USB >> keyboards.) > > There's a lot of both HDMI and DVI out there. New

Re: 20160520 - Latest Pi firmware & no serial ports

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 7:13 PM, Frank Nicholas > wrote: > > The following is required in “/boot/config.txt” (I have NOTHING else in > “/boot/config.txt" - everything else is commented out): > dtoverlay=pi3-disable-bt > enable_uart=1 While reviewing the How-To, I

Re: Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > I now have, at > > http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/stratum-1-microserver-howto/ Regarding `clockmaker`, the following line should be changed: dtoverlay=pi3-miniuart-bt-overlay Should be changed to: dtoverlay=pi3-miniuart-bt From this en

Re: Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > I now have, at > > http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/stratum-1-microserver-howto/ Regarding this line: Go through your normal configuration - timezone, locale, etc. I realize you might not want to list ALL options they should set under in

Re: Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > I now have, at > > http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/stratum-1-microserver-howto/ Regarding this line: Request Expand Filesystem by keying Return with the select bar on that entry. This will make all the space on the SD above the end of y

Re: Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Frank Nicholas > wrote: > > >> On May 20, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Eric S. Raymond > <mailto:e...@thyrsus.com>> wrote: >> >> I now have, at >> >> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/stratum-1-microserver-howto/ >&g

Re: Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > I now have, at > > http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/stratum-1-microserver-howto/ Regarding this: Make sure your SD card is right-side-up I don’t think any SD card (micro or regular size) can be fully inserted upside down. At least it wo

Re: Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > I now have, at > > http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/stratum-1-microserver-howto/ Regarding this section about using `dcfldd`, `dd` or the script `ddimage`: When this command completes, take the card out of the SD reader and insert it int

Re: Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > I now have, at > > http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/stratum-1-microserver-howto/ Regarding this line: Remember that you go root with the command "sudo bash" or (after you haves set a root password) "su -". Even if a root password has not

20160520 - Latest Pi firmware & no serial ports

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Frank Nicholas > wrote: > >> >> On May 20, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Eric S. Raymond > <mailto:e...@thyrsus.com>> wrote: >> >> Anthony Stirk mailto:upu...@gmail.com>>: >>> Will respond more later but serial

Re: Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Anthony Stirk : >> Will respond more later but serial port thing fixed here : >> >> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=148515 > > I attempted to follow one set of those directions. Specifically, > I changed /boot/co

Re: Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Criticize accordingly; my goal is for the text to be accessible > to tinkerers who are only casually familiar with a Unix command prompt. I have the perfect target - a co-worker who has a Raspberry Pi, does a little soldering, is casua

Re: Draft Stratum 1 Microserver HOWTO is up

2016-05-20 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 20, 2016, at 10:10 AM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > * I couldn't use the latest Raspbian images because they screw up the > mode of the UART pins at boot time. The third-party hack required > to undo this (link in the HOWTO) didn't work for me. Can anyone else > make it work? What am

Raspberry Pi HowTo - dtoverlay change

2016-05-14 Thread Frank Nicholas
From this page: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=139732 They are changing the way overlays work. There will be old overlays with “-overlay” as part of the name, and a new dynamic overlay format **without** the “-overlay” as part of the name. The bootloader system is i

Re: Testing ntpd and/or timing from gpsd

2016-05-12 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 12, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Yo Hal! > > On Thu, 12 May 2016 14:23:43 -0700 > Hal Murray wrote: > >>> I turn off the EEE in my switches. EEE can cause me troubles. >> >> I haven't seen any problems, but maybe I haven't looked in the right >> place. >> >> My sw

Re: Testing ntpd and/or timing from gpsd

2016-05-12 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 12, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > No good on the RasPi2: > > root@pi2:~# ethtool -c eth0 > Coalesce parameters for eth0: > Cannot get device coalesce settings: Operation not supported > root@pi2:~# > > The problem on the RasPi2 is the ethernet is a USB2 device. Yep - t

Re: Testing ntpd and/or timing from gpsd

2016-05-10 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 10, 2016, at 6:22 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > > e...@thyrsus.com said: >>> This seems like a good opportunity for an experiment. What do you have in >>> the way of a place to stand while can monitor other NTP servers? >> The Pi might be it. I have it set up to monitor four pool server

Gentoo, init scripts & NTPSec

2016-05-09 Thread Frank Nicholas
Gentoo’s typical NTP package (ntp-4.2.8_p7) has 2 x init scripts (OpenRC based - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:OpenRC): ntp-client ntpd ntp-client sets the systems date at startup and exits. It uses ntpdate to do this. Without ntp-client in the default run level, ntpd will not start on

sys/timepps.h & Gentoo (package named pos-tools)

2016-05-09 Thread Frank Nicholas
In the INSTALL file, it mentions the need for sys/timepps.h for a stratum 1 server. It lists the package Fedora & Debian package names that include sys/timepps.h If you want more linux flavor coverage, the package name for Gentoo is also "pps-tools”. Thanks, Frank

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-09 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 9, 2016, at 7:23 PM, Oliver Jowett wrote: > > init.d scripts are usually conffiles so only get removed on purge, not on > simple package removal. Traditionally the first thing they do is test that > the corresponding binary is actually Really? Init.d scripts are configured files and

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-09 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 9, 2016, at 7:18 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Almost good enough. A lot of people might install gpsd, then forget they > did, or their lab partner might have installed it. Or a new update of > their distro may skip it in as a hidden dependency. Understood. Then a troubleshooting se

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-09 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 9, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > We see a lot of users that do not remove the stock gpsd and ntpd when they > install gpsd and ntpd from source. That way they can compage the old and > the new before going all in to source compiled versions. Or they are > just too lazy..

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-09 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 9, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > But, you still need to tell the user how to remove the distros gpsd and > ntpd service files. Aren’t they part of the Debian package (I hope so - you wouldn’t want them there if there were no application to service requests)? If so, they

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-09 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 9, 2016, at 6:39 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Yo Frank! > > On Mon, 9 May 2016 18:07:21 -0400 > Frank Nicholas wrote: > >> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=1970&start=80 >> <https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/vie

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-09 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 9, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Frank Nicholas : >> This is the “/etc/ntp.conf” I used when I ran my NTP server on a Raspberry >> Pi with the Adafruit breakout board (same as current hat). I list it >> because of the “fudge” line. This w

Re: QNX (was: Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-06 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 6, 2016, at 6:21 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > The end result is both processes have the shared memory mapped into their > data space. So things get updated at raw RAM speed. Knowing it changed > needs polls, semaphores, etc. > > shmctl() is dumber, shared memory persists until reboo

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-06 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 6, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > So if you are trully on git head you should see this in your source: > > dagwood gpsd # fgrep 'accuracy will' *c > ppsthread.c: "KPPS:%s kernel PPS unavailable, PPS accuracy will > suffer\n", > ppsthread.c: "KPPS:%s no

Re: QNX (was: Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-06 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 6, 2016, at 4:19 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > "System V shared memory (shmget(2), shmop(2), etc.) is an older > shared memory API. POSIX shared memory provides a simpler, and > better designed interface; on the other hand POSIX shared memory > is somewhat

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 5, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: >> >> I don’t know enough to answer regarding “coarse time”. Here’s my >> output (FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE): > > yeah, that's a problem with refclock #20, important data is hidden. What was missing from my ntpq -p output? I’ve included it again

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
> > Easy with the 28 refclock. Not sure on the 20. DO you even see the > coarse time with ntpq -p? I don’t know enough to answer regarding “coarse time”. Here’s my output (FreeBSD-10.3-RELEASE): [2.3-RELEASE][ad...@burns.springfield.com]/root: ntpq -p remote refid st t

Re: New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
> Simple to see: > > root@pi2:~# ppstest /dev/pps0 > trying PPS source "/dev/pps0" > found PPS source "/dev/pps0" > ok, found 1 source(s), now start fetching data... > source 0 - assert 1462492791.66543, sequence: 147766 - clear > 0.0, sequence: 0 > source 0 - assert 1462492792.7

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 5, 2016, at 8:07 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Yo Frank! > > On Thu, 5 May 2016 19:49:28 -0400 > Frank Nicholas wrote: > >> We want to use PGGA sentence because it appears first, closest to >> the start of the second in each cycle. >> >>

Re: New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
In the section to build NTPSec, I don’t think there’s a step to install it: $ git clone https://gitlab.com/NTPsec/ntpsec.git $ cd ntpsec $ waf configure --refclock=20,22 $ waf build

Re: New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
Regarding the GPIO & edge detection issue in section: == Edge-detection issues and new HATs == Do we know if that issue still persists in the current kernel? I thought I saw some post explaining how to check for it, but can’t seem to find it now... Linux dev2-rpi 4.4.8-v7+ #881 SMP Sat Apr 30 12

Re: New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
Hello Eric, Regarding the “mode” setting, for the Adafruit HAT & Ultimate GPS Breakout, I had the following in my notes: We want "mode" set to 18: 16 = 9600 baud 2 = use PGGGA sentence for time We want to use PGGA sentence because it appears first, closest to the start of the second in each cyc

Re: Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
I haven’t used the NTP configuration below for years. I came up with it from some recipe(s) I found online (some commented in the file). The "time2 0.350" was the generally accepted best number for the original Raspberry Pi A/B. I personally have no idea how to tune NTP. I just used what I t

Raspberry Pi NTP config with fudge factors

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
This is the “/etc/ntp.conf” I used when I ran my NTP server on a Raspberry Pi with the Adafruit breakout board (same as current hat). I list it because of the “fudge” line. This was commonly accepted as the proper fudge settings, especially for time2 - 0.350: # /etc/ntp.conf, configuration for

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 5, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Frank Nicholas > wrote: > > >> On May 5, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Gary E. Miller > <mailto:g...@rellim.com>> wrote: >> >> Yo Frank! >> >> On Thu, 5 May 2016 17:41:51 -0400 >> Frank Nicholas > <mailto:f

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 5, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > > Yo Frank! > > On Thu, 5 May 2016 17:41:51 -0400 > Frank Nicholas wrote: > >> The above does not show PPS. I wouldn’t expect it to - how does >> `gpsmon` know which device to use for PPS? > > v

Re: New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
# ./gpsmon /dev/ttyAMA0 Running gpsmon should give you a nice panel display with a scrolling window at the bottom showing the raw data and a top section

Re: [gpsd-dev] New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 5, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > The hardware management we keep should go into a separate refclockd that Would refclockd be a part of NTP? If so, I’d be ok with that. I just have no need for GPSd on a pure time server. > communicates with ntpd via SHM. It's not cle

Re: New 0.5 draft of the SemPiTernal HOWTO

2016-05-05 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 5, 2016, at 3:45 PM, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > Frank : >> dhcpcd will “merge” DHCP supplied NTP servers at the bottom of a ntp.conf. >> This has not caused me any issues (on Gentoo). NTP generally does the >> “right” things and uses all the NTP servers in the config & will decide t

Re: RaspbPi HOWTO

2016-05-03 Thread Frank Nicholas
> On May 3, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > The problem with the Pi was USB related. I don't see troubles when using the > Ethernet, but WiFi hangs occasionally (days). All the USB WiFi gizmos from > Adafruit use the same chip. My guess is that the WiFi chip does something > strang