Re: AOO 4.0 testing discussion

2012-11-20 Thread Ji Yan
What's the release goal of AOO 4.0, in my understanding, no regression issue is hard goal. to support this goal we need more regression test. Besides that, I think test platform support also need to be considered. There is discussion before on old support platforms, IMHO, we should announce suppor

Re: Fw: QA Volunteer

2012-11-20 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Welcome, Manju! - Simon 2012/11/19 Xue Fei Duan > Manju, > Welcome joining us. I believe you will enjoy in AOO project. Follow link s > some QA guideline, you can take a look at it, if you have any question , > feel free to let us know. > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientati

[Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread tj
Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. Any Administrator ("sysop") can create a new user account. I will research what change is required to block other sign-up methods. Currently, Mwiki is under massive attack

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread tj
On 11/20/2012 06:46, tj wrote: Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. Any Administrator ("sysop") can create a new user account. I will research what change is required to block other sign-up methods. Currently, M

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 20.11.2012 12:46, tj wrote: Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. Any Administrator ("sysop") can create a new user account. I will research what change is required to block other sign-up methods. Current

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi, tj schrieb: Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. +1 I had made that suggestion already. Do not wait, but change it immediately. Kind regards Regina

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 20.11.2012 12:46, tj wrote: Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. I agree that for the current spam attack this is the most reasonable solution. After that period the the registration captcha should become

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Thus, +1 from my side. The change will hurt new Mwiki users, but it seems to be needed to protect our Mwiki. I agree. The time volunteers (thanks!) are spending on deleting spammers can be better spent in other ways. Let's just make sure that registrations can be

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread jan iversen
+1 from my sideand +1 to NOT wait 72 hours, we need to block it. Jan. On 20 November 2012 13:00, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: > Hi, > > > On 20.11.2012 12:46, tj wrote: > >> Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on >> a ML? >> Temporarily or permanently, I d

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread tj
On 11/20/2012 07:35, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Thus, +1 from my side. The change will hurt new Mwiki users, but it seems to be needed to protect our Mwiki. I agree. The time volunteers (thanks!) are spending on deleting spammers can be better spent in other ways. Let

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread TJ Frazier
On 11/20/2012 07:24, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi, tj schrieb: Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. +1 I had made that suggestion already. Do not wait, but change it immediately. Kind regards Regina Thanks, R

Re: [OT][Beijing]: Beijing Linux User Group 10th Birthday Party

2012-11-20 Thread Shenfeng Liu
I'm not a Linux User (my last Linux experience were years ago)... But Can I also join? - Simon 2012/11/20 Ji Yan > Attractive event, I'll be there. > > > 2012/11/20 Chao Huang > > > What an expected party in Beijing ! Thanks! > > > > > > 2012/11/20 Peter Junge > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > as we

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread TJ Frazier
On 11/20/2012 07:31, Herbert Duerr wrote: On 20.11.2012 12:46, tj wrote: Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. I agree that for the current spam attack this is the most reasonable solution. After that period th

Re: [OT][Beijing]: Beijing Linux User Group 10th Birthday Party

2012-11-20 Thread Fan Zheng
+1. Basically, my recent LINUX experience are all coming from building and debugging AOO in it. Registered already. 在 2012/11/20 9:28 PM,"Shenfeng Liu" 写道: > I'm not a Linux User (my last Linux experience were years ago)... But Can I > also join? > > - Simon > > > 2012/11/20 Ji Yan > > > Attrac

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:46 AM, tj wrote: > Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a > ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. > How many "real" wiki accounts do we get on a typical (no-spam) day? Are we sure that the admins can handle that volume of manua

Re: Calling all consultants, developers, trainers, etc., offering professional services related to OpenOffice

2012-11-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 04/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote: >> >> We're in the process of creating an updated OpenOffice professional >> services directory, to replace the outdated one that we removed from >> the website a few months ago. > > > I've been looking at doin

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread tj
On 11/20/2012 09:21, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:46 AM, tj wrote: Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. How many "real" wiki accounts do we get on a typical (no-spam) day? Are we sure that the ad

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Dave Fisher
On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:46 AM, tj wrote: >> Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a >> ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. >> > > How many "real" wiki accounts do we get on a typical (no-spam) day? >

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:46 AM, tj wrote: >>> Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a >>> ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. >>> >> >> How many

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013, 2-3 February 2013, Brussels

2012-11-20 Thread Rony G. Flatscher (Apache)
On 17.11.2012 18:24, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013, 2-3 February 2013, Brussels > > Apache OpenOffice (formerly OpenOffice.org) is coming again to > FOSDEM in Brussels, for the first time as an Apache Top-Level > Project. Our community has a new structure, friendly and

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread jan iversen
Hi. I have just received a bit strange e-mail from a Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com with the content: May I suggest you subscribe to the dev list? To subscribe to the list, send a message to: -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Ian Lynch
On 20 November 2012 17:06, jan iversen wrote: > Hi. > > I have just received a bit strange e-mail from a > Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com > > with the content: > May I suggest you subscribe to the dev list? > To subscribe to the list, send a message to: > > It's because I am a moderator to th

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013, 2-3 February 2013, Brussels

2012-11-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote: Please add your talk proposals to the following page: http://s.apache.org/fosdem-2013-proposals Probably a SQ ("stupid question"): what is needed to become able to edit that Wiki? Tried my Apache userid and password to no avail. Should I create a separate user

Re: development locations...again

2012-11-20 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: > > > On 11/19/2012 3:28 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >> >> Re this discussion initiated by Marcus on Nov 9 (I know longer have the >> original): >> >> http://markmail.org/message/fz7mkldympxwrnvn >> >> Whole looking around for our current buildbot out

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013, 2-3 February 2013, Brussels

2012-11-20 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 20.11.2012 18:21, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote: >>> Please add your talk proposals to the following page: >>> http://s.apache.org/fosdem-2013-proposals >> Probably a SQ ("stupid question"): what is needed to become able to edit >> that Wiki? >> Tried my Apache user

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013, 2-3 February 2013, Brussels

2012-11-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rony G. Flatscher wrote: Maybe the CFP e-mails could explicitly communicate the need to create an own account with that Wiki? (Maybe there could be interested speakers who may be shied away because they might have troubles to quickly add a proposal to the Wiki?) I think it's a minor inconvenien

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Rob Weir
Another option is to do a reply to all on the moderation note. This white lists the address for posting. This is useful for cases where someone posts from multiple addresses but only wants to receive one copy of posts. -Rob On Nov 20, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: > On 20 November 2012 17

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013, 2-3 February 2013, Brussels

2012-11-20 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 20.11.2012 19:20, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Rony G. Flatscher wrote: >> Maybe the CFP e-mails could explicitly communicate the need to create >> an own account with that Wiki? (Maybe there could be interested >> speakers who may be shied away because they might have troubles to >> quickly add a

Re: Proposal: "Ask OpenOffice" promotion

2012-11-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> This is mainly a community-relations / public outreach idea. I >>> noticed that when we do a blog post we get a lot of unrelated >>> questions, some of them quit

Re: Open Office QA volunteer.

2012-11-20 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Welcome to our community please confirm your membership to the Mailing list at: https://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html#qa-mailing-list Also try to read about the TCM and how to use it. http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Testlink On 11/20/12, PRADEEP KOULAGI wrote: > Hello

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread tj
On 11/20/2012 12:06, jan iversen wrote: Hi. Rob: What qualification would a Wiki maintainer need ? I used to maintain our business sites, which were PHP and AJAX based, with MySql behind, it that would fit, it is a job which I would volunteer for. Jan, A Wiki maintainer needs PHP and MySQL kn

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread jan iversen
Rob, I had a quick look at the mediawiki homepage, and the things they have does not exactly scare, especially if people can accept that there is a learning/introduction period. I think your idea of a maintenance page is good, it should also contain a place where users can write ideas (relating t

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 11/20/12, tj wrote: > On 11/20/2012 12:06, jan iversen wrote: >> Hi. >> >> Rob: >> What qualification would a Wiki maintainer need ? I used to maintain our >> business sites, which were PHP and AJAX based, with MySql behind, it that >> would fit, it is a job which I would volunteer for. > > Jan

MWiki anti-spam pages

2012-11-20 Thread Rob Weir
For future reference: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Combating_spam http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter (that last one appears to allow an admin to define patterns to block, and these patterns could include the specific link

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread jan iversen
I agree with the views of Alexandro, you cannot do such a job (or any job) without being committed. Question to Alexandro: if you did in the past, you have valuable experience, so the most efficient thing would probably be that you continue doing it, or is that not an option ? I volunteered becau

Re: MWiki anti-spam pages

2012-11-20 Thread jan iversen
And further to that. We use release 1.15.5 from 2010-7-28. The current release is 1.20, and scanning through the different release notes, a lot of work has gone into security issues in the later version, including closing a number of old loopholes in PHP. Jan. On 20 November 2012 23:09, Rob Wei

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 11/20/12, jan iversen wrote: > I agree with the views of Alexandro, you cannot do such a job (or any job) > without being committed. > > Question to Alexandro: if you did in the past, you have valuable > experience, so the most efficient thing would probably be that you continue > doing it, or

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Ian Lynch
On 20 November 2012 19:01, Rob Weir wrote: > Another option is to do a reply to all on the moderation note. This > white lists the address for posting. Ok, hadn't realised that. > This is useful for cases where > someone posts from multiple addresses but only wants to receive one > copy of p

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 11/20/2012 01:35 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Thus, +1 from my side. The change will hurt new Mwiki users, but it seems to be needed to protect our Mwiki. +1 also from me. Don't wait here, just act when you already know what to do. I agree. The time volunteer

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 11/20/2012 01:35 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > >> Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: >>> >>> Thus, +1 from my side. >>> The change will hurt new Mwiki users, but it seems to be needed to >>> protect our Mwiki. > > > +1 also from me. Don't wait

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread jan iversen
Sorry Ian, I am just a bit sensitive on spam at the moment, I had not seen your name on the list, so I was confused since I write regularly (during the last couple of months on dev and l10n lists). Just to explain, I was subscribed as jancasacon...@gmail.com, but got a new address j...@apache.org

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 12/11/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: FOSDEM 2013 will be held in Brussels, Belgium, 2-3 Feb 2013 and it is a huge, free, developer-oriented, technical conference. OpenOffice has three opportunities to be featured there. Quick status update below. 1) The Apache OpenOffice devroom. This is what

Re: Self introduction to Project Volunteers

2012-11-20 Thread Kay Schenk
[re-reply since original message was moderated] On 11/19/2012 11:53 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: abhilash alwandi wrote: Dear all Volunteers,Am Abhilash Alwandi.Am from Banglore(INDIA).Am interested in testing the Apache OpenOffice. Welcome! If you wish to help with testing you should subscribe

Hello

2012-11-20 Thread Emanuel Avalos
Hello i'm Emanuel Avalos, from mexico, 22years old. My abilities are: Java Android UI designer HTML5, CSS. PHP I am interested in learning more about application development, and interact with a large community. -- *Emanuel Avalos Ramón* Ing.Sistemas Computacionales. Celular: 9932314446

Re: [OT][Beijing]: Beijing Linux User Group 10th Birthday Party

2012-11-20 Thread Peter Junge
Sure! Peter On 11/20/2012 9:28 PM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: I'm not a Linux User (my last Linux experience were years ago)... But Can I also join? - Simon 2012/11/20 Ji Yan Attractive event, I'll be there. 2012/11/20 Chao Huang What an expected party in Beijing ! Thanks! 2012/11/20 Pete

Draft blog post: Call for Marketing Volunteers

2012-11-20 Thread Rob Weir
https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=call_for_marketing_volunteers

Re: Hello

2012-11-20 Thread Kay Schenk
On 11/20/2012 04:08 PM, Emanuel Avalos wrote: Hello i'm Emanuel Avalos, from mexico, 22years old. My abilities are: Java Android UI designer HTML5, CSS. PHP I am interested in learning more about application development, and interact with a large community. Hello Emanuel and thanks for join

Fwd: Bad site certificate

2012-11-20 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Folks, It is possible that we can get either a www.openoffice.org, a *.openoffice.org, or other specific .openoffice.org certificates. There are older browsers where the apache.org certificate will take precedence for sites. Does the project care to have an SSL certificate on www.openoffice

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 11/20/2012 06:46 AM, tj wrote: Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. Oh, please do It looked to me more like it was about three a minute in the wee hours of the morning. Any Administrator ("sysop") c

Bad press

2012-11-20 Thread Ian C
Hi All, saw this today http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9233890/German_city_dumps_OpenOffice_switches_to_Microsoft?source=CTWNLE_nlt_pm_2012-11-20 Maybe an upgrade from 3.2 would help them? -- Cheers, Ian C

Re: Bad press

2012-11-20 Thread Andrew Rist
Here's the response from LO referenced in the story: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/11/16/open-letter-to-the-city-of-freiburg/ On 11/20/2012 5:16 PM, Ian C wrote: Hi All, saw this today http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9233890/German_city_dumps_OpenOffice_switches_to_Microsoft?s

Re: Draft blog post: Call for Marketing Volunteers

2012-11-20 Thread Peter Junge
On 11/21/2012 8:20 AM, Rob Weir wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=call_for_marketing_volunteers Thanks. The only thing that I would add is "... and follow the instructions of the automatic reply " to "Subscribe to our public Marketing mailing list by sending an email

Re: [Mwiki] New accounts by invitation only?

2012-11-20 Thread TJ Frazier
On 11/20/2012 20:10, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 11/20/2012 06:46 AM, tj wrote: Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. Oh, please do It looked to me more like it was about three a minute in the wee hou

Re: Draft blog post: Call for Marketing Volunteers

2012-11-20 Thread F C. Costero
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=call_for_marketing_volunteers A minor point about "perhaps second only to Linux and Firefox". Can OpenOffice be second to two other products? How about "perhaps outdone only by Linux and Firefox

Re: Proposal: "Ask OpenOffice" promotion

2012-11-20 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/20/12 9:22 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> Rob Weir wrote: This is mainly a community-relations / public outreach idea. I noticed that when we do a blog post we get a lot o

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-20 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/15/12 1:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 14/11/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> copied and pasted into an e-mail, see other announcements ... >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+CFP >> is just for writing/reviewing this text. Link won't be published. > > Remin

Re: [Proposal]Propose to Improve the Graphic Bullets Interoperability with MS Word Binary Format

2012-11-20 Thread chengjh
Updated the patch according to the comments...Please review https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=79931&action=diff.Thanks. On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Herbert Dürr wrote: > I agree with Pedro that the change history belongs into the RCS, > especially in a code base as ours where s

Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-20 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 11/13/12 7:21 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: > > On 11/13/2012 2:05 AM, RA Stehmann wrote: >> Am 12.11.2012 21:53, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: >>> FOSDEM 2013 will be held in Brussels, Belgium, 2-3 Feb 2013 and it is a >>> huge, free, developer-oriented, technical conference. OpenOffice has >>> three oppo