On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:46 AM, tj <t...@apache.org> wrote: >>> Can I get lazy consensus on requiring users to request Mwiki accounts on a >>> ML? Temporarily or permanently, I don't know. >>> >> >> How many "real" wiki accounts do we get on a typical (no-spam) day? >> Are we sure that the admins can handle that volume of manual account >> requests? > > Managing real requests will certainly be less work than fighting spammers. > > +1 to proceeding now with registration by request. > > I'm actually for it permanently - although we should migrate to a wiki@oo.a.o > or admin@oo.a.o ML for these types of requests >
I wouldn't do it permanently. We're just avoiding the real issue -- we're not really maintaining our MWiki. If we don't get some site maintainer in there, to deal with upgrades, etc., the wiki will fall over for some other reason at a future point. When we deal with that then we'll join the many other MWiki sites that don't require extraordinary steps to keep spammers at bay. Maybe we should do a call for MWiki and phpBB admin types at some point? Our infrastructure needs are complex enough that this is project sub-discipline in itself. -Rob > Regards, > Dave > > >> >> >>> Any Administrator ("sysop") can create a new user account. I will research >>> what change is required to block other sign-up methods. >>> >>> Currently, Mwiki is under massive attack by spammers. Thanks to the valiant >>> efforts of volunteers Adailton, Helen russian, Pitonyak, and Yak, we are >>> staying even: the lifetime of spam may be a few hours, but is usually only a >>> few minutes. >>> >>> However, the spammers are creating new spam accounts (the pattern in the >>> names is quite apparent) at a rate of one every minute or two, and 24/7. We >>> cannot survive that kind of onslaught indefinitely. >>> >>> To be continued. >>> >>> /tj/ >>> >