On 13/02/2013 Rob Weir wrote:
This lead to a series of behaviors which were specified to be
"implementation-defined", or in some case "locale-defined" or
"unspecified". These are subtly different, and express nuances common
in standards, what we refer to as "dimensions of variability".
And whe
I did not test with your patch. I reported on behavior of available
releases.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 19:42
To: rabas...@gmail.com; dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: :Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0
Ok Great let me work on it how much time do we have to complete this
...if we have short time i can ask my fellow designers to contribute and to
help me if we have ample time then great!!!
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Saransh Sharma wrote:
> Do you want me to design something!!
>
>
> On
Hello Ariel,
output of
cd
svn info
Path:.
URL: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk
Repository Root: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf
Repository UUID: 13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68
Revision: 1440197
Node type: directory
Scheduled: normal
Author of last change: alg
Review of
Do you want me to design something!!
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Any updates on the discussion below? (I leave it for context since it was
> sent to multiple lists). ApacheCon NA 2013 is coming soon and speakers
> would really appreciate to have an updated presentat
I have full working eclipse env and try to build on Mac OS X 10.6.
All prerequisits are installed as described in the guide.
Thanks,
Maarten
Op 14-feb.-2013 09:33 schreef "Jürgen Schmidt" het
volgende:
> On 2/13/13 10:27 PM, Maarten Kesselaers wrote:
> > My build just crashed on the build.xml un
Hi Jorge,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:43:34PM -0600, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote:
> I have this subversion:
>
> svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk
then you need to update the source tree:
svn up
There are several subversion tutorial on the web.
Regards
--
Ariel Constenl
I have this subversion:
svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk
My question again, is how I can update basis3.4. to basis4? Explain me step by
step please.
2013/2/14 Ariel Constenla-Haile
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 09:05:55PM -0600, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote:
> > Hello Ari
On 02/14/2013 09:29 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 2/14/13 2:49 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so I'll
respect your choice. And it's good to give people more time t
The PMC decides whether or not an expressed
veto is "valid" or not. But generally speaking,
vetos should not be either thrown around willy-
nilly nor should they be challenged every time
they are issued.
It's all part of how we work, this recent episode
should be considered a learning experience
Ugh...
I think this is beating the dead horse now, but you cannot say I was
unresponsive during this thread.
The main question to rescue here is: How decides if a veto is valid or not?
Kay's veto really needed clarification and I still think that your original
veto was not technical.
Pedro.
Thats alright I just needed to know it was not linux.
In the bugzilla issue Dennis had reported those were OK in some platform.
Ah well, given the monster thread this caused excuse me if I dont hurry to fix
it ;).
Pedro.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 09:05:55PM -0600, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote:
> Hello Ariel,
>
> How I can update 3.5 to 4.0?
are you using subversion? What's the output of
cd
svn info
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
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On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> Rob;
>
> Can you confirm the platform where you got those results?
>
I believe this was WinXP SP3 (32-bit), but I can confirm in the morning.
-Rob
> Thanks,
>
> Pedro.
>
>
> - Messaggio originale -
>> Da: Rob Weir
>> A: dev@openoffi
On Feb 14, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> 3 days I'd say is fine. There is no
> need to rush out and "fix" a broken trunk,
> no matter what the rationale may be.
>
>
In this case Pedro had already written that he *would not* revert the
patch. I take that as permission for anyone else
Thank You Rob:
I'm interest is develope, I have 15 years of experience in Linux,
Windows, Java, C, C++ what can i do for join me tu us maybe with small
tasks maybe debugging or solving small problems?
I'n a few words in wich form can i help the project?
El 14/02/13 18:39, Rob Weir escribió:
Hello Ariel,
How I can update 3.5 to 4.0?
I would like to know step by step how to do this.
Help me.
2013/2/14 Herbert Dürr
> On 2013/02/14 2:27 AM, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote:
>
>> How I can do a debug mode?
>> Where I can find more information about the debug mode?
>>
>
> http://wiki.openoff
3 days I'd say is fine. There is no
need to rush out and "fix" a broken trunk,
no matter what the rationale may be.
>
> From: Pedro Giffuni
>To: "dev@openoffice.apache.org"
>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:32 PM
>Subject: Re: Proposal: How we should hand
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Dave Fisher
...
>>
>> I agree that there should be no delay from the moment a veto is
> acknowledged to the moment the commit is reverted, and that discussions can
> be
> held after the revert. But, whenever possible, give the committer the
> opportu
Rob;
Can you confirm the platform where you got those results?
Thanks,
Pedro.
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Rob Weir
> A: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Pedro Giffuni
> Cc:
> Inviato: Giovedì 14 Febbraio 2013 16:47
> Oggetto: Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Rob Weir
> Inviato: Giovedì 14 Febbraio 2013 17:31
> Oggetto: Proposal: How we should handle committer vetos and reverts in the
> future
>
> Obviously the changes to Calc's POWER() function did not go well.
>
> IMHO, we need to better respect the rare
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Tomáš Zahradník wrote:
> Hi,
> I am a high school (gymnasial) student in 12th grade from Czech Republic,
> Prague. Since programming belongs to my biggest interests, I have a great
> motivation to extend my knowledge and gain valuable experiences. So far I
> have b
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Luis Ortiz <3ckb4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I want to become a volunteer for the development or another tasks of the
> project but i don't understand if i need firs introduce myself in the dev
> and next sign up on the wikis.
>
> What is the correct process for
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> When a committ is vetoed, it should be reverted quickly.
>
>
> Yes, when we have a proper veto, with valid technical grounds. A good side
> of the 0 ^ 0 discussion is that contributors are now better educated on
> this
Hi
I want to become a volunteer for the development or another tasks of the
project but i don't understand if i need firs introduce myself in the
dev and next sign up on the wikis.
What is the correct process for that.
I apreciate the help.
Thanks a lot.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> Rob Weir wrote:
>>> When a committ is vetoed, it should be reverted quickly.
>>
>> Yes, when we have a proper veto, with valid technical grounds. A good side
>> of the 0 ^ 0 discussion
On Feb 14, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Rob Weir wrote:
>> When a committ is vetoed, it should be reverted quickly.
>
> Yes, when we have a proper veto, with valid technical grounds. A good side of
> the 0 ^ 0 discussion is that contributors are now better educated on this.
Here
That's odd. I created a field and it showed me an entry
window right in the document where I put it. I could then simply type into
the box that was part of my document. That is, in fact, what I expected.
The description of in ODF 1.2 is for a situation where
users are prompted to make an entr
Rob Weir wrote:
When a committ is vetoed, it should be reverted quickly.
Yes, when we have a proper veto, with valid technical grounds. A good
side of the 0 ^ 0 discussion is that contributors are now better
educated on this.
If the original coder is willing and able to revert quickly, the
Hi,
I am a high school (gymnasial) student in 12th grade from Czech Republic,
Prague. Since programming belongs to my biggest interests, I have a great
motivation to extend my knowledge and gain valuable experiences. So far I
have been learning through books, contests (codeforces, topcoder) and
mos
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>
>
>
>
> - Messaggio originale -
>> Da: Rob Weir
>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> - Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
>>>
And I should say that I'm happy to help if y
Obviously the changes to Calc's POWER() function did not go well.
IMHO, we need to better respect the rare but powerful veto option that
committers have:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#Veto
When a committ is vetoed, it should be reverted quickly. Remember, a
veto is likely to c
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> I'd like to run this by as an idea.
>
> Today, the announcement at the top of our website is controlled by this
> file:
>
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext
>
> The "announce" and "announceurl"
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Rob Weir
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>
>>
>> - Messaggio originale -
>>> Da: Rob Weir
>>
>>>
>>> And I should say that I'm happy to help if you or anyone else
> wishes
>>> to introduce a "warning mode" or
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> Hello Kay;
>
>
> - Messaggio originale -
> > Da: Kay Schenk
>
> >
> > I readily admit this is true. I would like my veto to stand and here I
> will
> > elaborate and hopefully provide my technical justification.
> >
> > In my mind,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>
>>
>> - Messaggio originale -
>>> Da: Rob Weir
>>
>>>
>>> And I should say that I'm happy to help if you or anyone else wishes
>>> to introduce a "warning mode" or "formula lint" or
Hi all,
please have a break. Keep in mind, that our community members from China
have their Chinese New Year holidays and might not be back yet. Give
them a change to notice the discussion.
Kind regards
Regina
Andrea Pescetti schrieb:
Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>
>
> - Messaggio originale -
>> Da: Rob Weir
>
>>
>> And I should say that I'm happy to help if you or anyone else wishes
>> to introduce a "warning mode" or "formula lint" or similar feature
>> that can be optionally enabled to check
Any updates on the discussion below? (I leave it for context since it
was sent to multiple lists). ApacheCon NA 2013 is coming soon and
speakers would really appreciate to have an updated presentation
template within a few days!
Regards,
Andrea.
On 08/02/2013 Shenfeng Liu wrote:
Saransh,
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Rob Weir
>
> And I should say that I'm happy to help if you or anyone else wishes
> to introduce a "warning mode" or "formula lint" or similar feature
> that can be optionally enabled to check for possible inadvertent user
> errors.
>
As the guys from t
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>
>>
>> - Messaggio originale -
>>> Da: Rob Weir
>> ...
OOo already has plenty of functions that give backwards
incompatible results with previous versions of OOo and
Hi all,
investigating for https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121769 I
come across the following problem:
To handle the command "arcTo" (the OOXML one), LO has defined a new
constant ARCANGLETO = 17 in EnhancedCustomShapeSegmentCommand, and LO
writes the shape to .odp using an own
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>
>
> - Messaggio originale -
>> Da: Rob Weir
> ...
>>>
>>> OOo already has plenty of functions that give backwards
>>> incompatible results with previous versions of OOo and
>>> Symphony (which is rather crappy). atanh, asinh, erf,
Am 02/13/2013 10:34 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
Hi BZ admins,
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
May I suggest some little string changes on the BZ startpage:
HTML title
--
Currently:
Apache OOo Bugzilla Main Page
New:
Apache OpenOffice (AO
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Rob Weir
...
>>
>> OOo already has plenty of functions that give backwards
>> incompatible results with previous versions of OOo and
>> Symphony (which is rather crappy). atanh, asinh, erf,
>> everything in SAL has needed continued revisions.
>>
>
> I
I'd like to run this by as an idea.
Today, the announcement at the top of our website is controlled by this file:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext
The "announce" and "announceurl" values then enter into the
templating process via:
https://svn.a
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> Man.. do I have to repeat everything again?
>
>
> - Messaggio originale -
>> Da: Rob Weir <>
>> And so it is clear, my technical objection is:
>>
>> Backwards compatibility of spreadsheet documents, and calculations
>> specifically, i
Man.. do I have to repeat everything again?
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Rob Weir <>
> And so it is clear, my technical objection is:
>
> Backwards compatibility of spreadsheet documents, and calculations
> specifically, is critical. If AOO 4.0 returns results that are even a
> penny
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>
Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so I'll
respect your choice
Hello Kay;
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Kay Schenk
>
> I readily admit this is true. I would like my veto to stand and here I will
> elaborate and hopefully provide my technical justification.
>
> In my mind, current mathematical information aside, we have implemented an
> acceptable
I came across this old post from the Django project, "Measuring the
Django Community: Circles of Django"
http://jacobian.org/writing/django-community/circles-of-django/
It looks like an interesting approach and worth doing on a periodic
basis, once or twice a year, a census of sorts.
Obviously p
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Rob Weir wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so I'll
>>> respect your choice. And it's good to give people more time to think
>>> (not to
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Robin Fowler wrote:
> I have noticed that when signing up for the wiki sites you use the cat images
> captcha. I'm not blind myself, and i don't know much about how blind people
> use a computer, but I do wonder how a blind person would manage to solve
> this. P
On Feb 14, 2013 5:13 PM, "David Gerard" wrote:
>
> On 14 February 2013 16:05, janI wrote:
>
> > Hi you are quite right, our "create account" is not friendly towards
blind
> > people, having said that we need something like that in order to fight
> > spam, and anybody who has a problem creating an
On 14 February 2013 16:05, janI wrote:
> Hi you are quite right, our "create account" is not friendly towards blind
> people, having said that we need something like that in order to fight
> spam, and anybody who has a problem creating an account can mail this help
> and will get help.
rational
On Feb 14, 2013 2:33 PM, "Robin Fowler" wrote:
>
> I have noticed that when signing up for the wiki sites you use the cat
images captcha. I'm not blind myself, and i don't know much about how blind
people use a computer, but I do wonder how a blind person would manage to
solve this. Perhaps there
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
> can I append a missing commit log?
>
> I committed r1446039 on command line okay,
>
> but r1446040and r1446041 using netbeans I missed the message:
>
> Added IT localization files
> Patch by: Fabrizio Marchesano
> Review by: GianAngelo Cencio
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:32 PM, tj wrote:
> Prior to working with AOO, I thought that there was a widely-known and
> generally accepted methodology for releasing incompatible changes. However,
> the problem has surfaced here three times: once last spring (encryption
> default), and twice current
Hi Juergen;
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Jürgen Schmidt
...
>>
> And to be honest the technical ground for the veto is in this thread,
> especially Norbert's mail.
>
As I replied to Norbert's email: the quote was taken out of context:
the definition applies to some special purpose alg
Hello Juergen;
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Jürgen Schmidt
>
> On 2/14/13 2:29 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
>>
>> On 02/13/2013 02:46 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>> Independently of the vote result I will be effectively stopping the
>>> development work I intended to do on Calc
On 2/14/13 2:49 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so I'll
>>> respect your choice. And it's good to give people more time to think
>>> (not to
>> We had a commit
Hi Andrea;
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Andrea Pescetti
>
> Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so
> I'll
>>> respect your choice. And it's good to give people more time to
>
Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so I'll
respect your choice. And it's good to give people more time to think (not to
We had a committer veto. Why are having a vote? A -1 from a
commmitter i
I have noticed that when signing up for the wiki sites you use the cat images
captcha. I'm not blind myself, and i don't know much about how blind people use
a computer, but I do wonder how a blind person would manage to solve this.
Perhaps there is a way, but I thought I'd mention this in case
- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Rob Weir
.--
>
> We had a committer veto. Why are having a vote? A -1 from a
> commmitter is not something we vote on. The patch needs to be
> reverted, now.
>
We actually have two *invalid* vetos
I recall you aduced the change is not backwards compati
On 02/14/2013 07:52 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
We had a committer veto. Why are having a vote? A -1 from a
commmitter is not something we vote on. The patch needs to be
reverted, now.
I thought he said he vetoed it and it would be voted on later.
I was not aware that any committer could veto any
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 13/02/2013 Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>
>> I will ask everyone to take a break for two weeks before starting the
>> voting procedure for this.
>
>
> Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so I'll
> respect your choice
On 13/02/2013 Pedro Giffuni wrote:
I will ask everyone to take a break for two weeks before starting the
voting procedure for this.
Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so I'll
respect your choice. And it's good to give people more time to think
(not to write!) abou
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On 2/14/13 12:32 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi Regina, *
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:31:53AM +0100, Regina Henschel wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> some parts were developed by Lanedo and then integrated into
>> LibreOffice. I have got the perm
Hi Regina, *
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:31:53AM +0100, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> some parts were developed by Lanedo and then integrated into
> LibreOffice. I have got the permission to forward the list of commit
> IDs. The OSB-Alliance can relicense them under Apache License 2.0. I
>
On 2013/02/14 2:27 AM, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote:
How I can do a debug mode?
Where I can find more information about the debug mode?
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Non_Product_Build
is a good start for the debug mode of AOO.
Also http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Debugging
is a good start for
Hi,
I am currently building branch sidebar, revision 1444704.
I observed the following warning during the build in module svx:
Text [ en-US ] = "Color Light Preview";
^
f4099: "c:/AOO/sources/sidebar/main/svx/source/engine3d/float3d.src",
line 1440: Warning in the object (Type: String, 162):
Hello,
Thank you very much to all of you, men and women, developers,
QA-persons, authors of documentation and all others, who support this
great Free office-suite.
Tanks to all, who remain true to our MissionStatement:
"To create, as a community, the leading international office suite that
will
Hi Dennis,
On 06.02.2013 19:35, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
For "real" input fields, (that is, form:text elements), direct entry works.
I am not sure what you mean by '"real" input fields'.
I am talking about the fields which are inserted into a text document in
AOO Writer by Menu Insert - Fie
Hi,
On 06.02.2013 17:39, Regina Henschel wrote:
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann schrieb:
Hi,
recently I got notice about our (from my point of view) very
user-unfriendly way for editing Input Fields in Writer.
Currently, you can not place the cursor into an Input Field which in
general is shown with a
Hi all,
some parts were developed by Lanedo and then integrated into
LibreOffice. I have got the permission to forward the list of commit
IDs. The OSB-Alliance can relicense them under Apache License 2.0. I
think before we go to ask for relicensing, we should look whether this
patches are use
On 2/14/13 2:29 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
>
> On 02/13/2013 02:46 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>> Independently of the vote result I will be effectively stopping the
>> development work I intended to do on Calc as I have lost all
>> interest on improving it given the current situation.
> I to
Hi Hagar,
On 10.02.2013 21:32, Hagar Delest wrote:
Le 06/02/2013 21:21, Hagar Delest a écrit :
Le 06/02/2013 09:03, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit :
BTW, does the above given workarounds work on your side?
Sadly, it's the profile of the machine that got its Windows XP
partition unusable anym
On 2/13/13 10:27 PM, Maarten Kesselaers wrote:
> My build just crashed on the build.xml under
> ./main/l10ntools/java/jpropex/ at line 122 :
>
> 122classpathref="classpath">
>
> So I guess I need to set a CLASSPATH, right?
> To which directory should it be set?
>
do you have con
On 2/13/13 10:11 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> I've been busy with building lately, especially with building on Fedora
> 18 with the --with-system-libs switch, which should be used for
> packaging in Fedora. This is preparation work for the Fedora 19 packaging.
>
> To isolate the problematic depend
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