e.org/39/protocol.html
> > >
> > > * CI builds for the 3.9 branch:
> > > Unit/integration tests (There are some flaky tests):
> > > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Kafka/job/kafka/job/3.9/199
> > > System tests: http://jenkins.opensource4you.tw/job/kafka-e2e
This behavior tripped me up a couple of times, I was on a specific
documentation version and without realizing I navigated to the "top level"
and went back to the latest version docs
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> > I was "lazy" and tried to us
gt;>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 11:57 PM Kuan Po Tseng <
> >>>>>>>>> brandb...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao,
> >>>>>>>>>>>&
ote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Kafka users, developers, and client-developers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> This is the second candidate for the release of Apache Kafka
> > >>>>> 3.9.1.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> This RC fixed the rele
help me with this?
>
> Regards,
> David Kjerrumgaard
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> >
> > > As there's no more comments regarding KIP-1123 [1], I'd like to put it
> to
> > > a vote.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Ivan
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence
ature or not.
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; > - * References: KIP-123, KAFKA-23456, apache/flink#1234, etc
> > >
> > > Each "-by" trailer should include only a single individual using the
> > > standard "First Last " format. Multiple instances of the same
> > > trailer are allowed.
; > * Paolo Patierno
> >
> > 0 votes
> > * No votes
> >
> > -1 votes
> > * No votes
> >
> > Vote thread:
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/czxrsdsk9nw03rp7bzqhdjbt2wzhtjll
> >
> > I'll continue with the release process and the r
Hi all,
The redirect are not expected to work until after the release is announced.
This changed since the ASF FTP was shut down.
By merging the PR with the redirect, now the docs point publicly to 4.0. I
think we should revert the redirect until the vote passes.
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If it is the case, why this
> information is not accurately stated in the release note nor notable change
> note consider its notable impact? Is it possible to add it somewhere or
> patch the release note and notable change note?
>
> Looking forward to your help for the an
> Email: padmaprasad.ait...@gmail.com
> > Jira ID: padmaprasadaithal
> > Wiki ID: padmaprasadaithal
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Padmaprasad Aithal
> >
>
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Hi Olasoji,
Thanks for your interest in contributing to Apache Kafka. You accounts are
now set. Let me know if you have any questions.
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On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 7:57 PM Denloye, Olasoji
wrote:
> JIRA id: soji
> Wiki id: soji
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Hi Matthias,
For 3.8.1 I pointed to the PR that makes the update to the new patch
version.
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>
> *SURESH KUMAR M*
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o their new role and
> responsibility in
> > > the Kafka community.
> > >
> > > David Arthur
> > > On behalf of the Apache Kafka PMC
> > >
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PM Swikar Patel wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> I am new here to contribute Kafka.
> I would like to add some additional information in Readme.md file. Do I
> have to create KIP for that. The changes would be very small.
>
> Thanks
> Swikar
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> > > >
> > > > So while adding Java version support in the past has been a KIP-less
> > > > feature and normally only appears in the next version, it happens to
> > > align
> > > > with a major version bump this time. This will cause additional pain
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>
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>
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; > Thanks for give me access to Kafka project, below is my information:
> > >
> > > Wiki ID: jerrycai
> > > JIRA ID: jerrycai
> > >
> > > Email: jerrycai...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > Github: https://github.com/JerryCai
> > >
For a second I thought I missed a complete version :D
On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 12:20 PM Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> hi Josep
>
> > I guess you mean 3.9.0 right?
>
> Yes, sorry for my fat-fingering :(
>
> Josep Prat 於 2024年11月12日 週二 下午7:17寫道:
>
> > Hi Chia-Ping,
>
Cadonna, Chia Chuan Yu,
> Chia-Ping
> > Tsai, ChickenchickenLove, Chirag Wadhwa, Chris Egerton, Christo Lolov,
> > Ming-Yen Chung, Colin P. McCabe, Cy, David Arthur, David Jacot,
> > demo...@csie.io, dengziming, Dimitar Dimitrov, Dmitry Werner, Dongnuo
> Lyu,
> > dujian0068,
or plugins or whatever we need them to do without them
risking loosing their effort with API changes.
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Hi Andrew,
This is exactly the philosophy behind this KIP. To highlight cases like
KIP-932.
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Hi Colin,
Thanks for running the release!!
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> >> >>> > >> >> > need
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> to rush your improvement for 3.9, as we’ll need to
> >> explicitly
> >> >>> add
> >> >>> > >> >> > default
> &g
Hi all,
The discussion about graduation steps for KIPs has now stabilized and I'd
like to start a vote for it. Here you can find the KIP:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/mYn9Eg
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th "experimental, "early access", and "production ready".
>
>
> -Matthias
>
> On 10/2/24 8:15 AM, Josep Prat wrote:
> > Thanks David,
> >
> >
> > I would be perfectly fine having:
> > - Level 2: Experimental (draft and unstabl
ki id and jira id are both TaiJuWu.
> Thank you for the help!
>
> Best regards,
> TaiJuWu
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Egerton, Colin P. McCabe, David Arthur, Guillaume Mallet,
Igor Soarez, Josep Prat, Justine Olshan, Ken Huang, Kondrat Bertalan,
Kuan-Po Tseng, Luke Chen, Manikumar Reddy, Matthias J. Sax, Mickael
Maison, PoAn Yang, Rohan, TengYao Chi, Vikas Singh
We welcome your help and feedback. For more
27;ll continue with the release process and the release announcement will
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Hi Luke,
Thanks! I don't have any special hurry to release. I'll wait a couple of
days for the third binding +1 to come.
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Hi all,
Thanks for all the ones testing and voting!
@Luke Chen and @Mickael Maison
, would my implicit +1 count towards the 3 PMCs
needed to approve the PR? Or as a RM am I excluded?
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Hi all!
Gentle ping on this thread.
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Josep Prat created KAFKA-17822:
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Summary: Update Jetty to 9.4.56 for 3.9
Key: KAFKA-17822
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17822
Project: Kafka
Issue Type: Sub-task
Hi all,
I'm cancelling this vote and I'll generate a new RC soon.
Best,
On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 5:39 PM Josep Prat wrote:
> Dependency update is on the way:
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17517
> Once merged, I'll cherry-pick it to 3.8, 3.7 and 3.9
>
> Bes
ch is already
> released.
>
> Best,
> Chia-Ping
>
>
> Josep Prat 於 2024年10月16日 週三 下午10:57寫道:
>
> > Hi Chia-Ping,
> >
> > This issue was created between me pushing the tag and finishing all the
> > associated tasks for the RC. Nice catch!
> > If
Josep Prat created KAFKA-17810:
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Summary: Update Jetty to 9.4.56
Key: KAFKA-17810
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17810
Project: Kafka
Issue Type: Sub-task
Reporter
Hi Chia-Ping,
This issue was created between me pushing the tag and finishing all the
associated tasks for the RC. Nice catch!
If I understand your comment correctly, we can't yet update the
dependencies, right? We should wait for 9.4.57.
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Josep Prat created KAFKA-17786:
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Summary: align the low bound of ducktape version for 3.8.x
Key: KAFKA-17786
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17786
Project: Kafka
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Josep Prat resolved KAFKA-17786.
Resolution: Fixed
Done via https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17482
> align the low bound
Hi Colin,
I agree with you, this is not a blocker.
We merged those to trunk and 3.8 already, but without your feedback. I'll
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Hi Colin, if you haven't started probably it makes sense to merge
https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/17447 as well.
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stronger.
>
> We do already have 12 closed Jiras for 3.7.2 but the more the better,
> and it seems there is a few more (I did find at least 4 more Jiras)
> which seems candidates for back-porting.
>
>
> Looking forward to your feedback.
>
>
> -Matthias
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tioned it in the 3.9 thread too, we accidentally renamed a metric
> in 3.8.0 and fixing this would limit the impact of this mistake to our
> users.
>
> Thanks,
> Mickael
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 4:41 PM Matthias J. Sax wrote:
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > On 1
Hi Lianet,
No worries! Thanks for backporting it!!
Best,
On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 3:57 PM Lianet M. wrote:
> Done (sorry I noticed now I didn't mention I would in the previous email)
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 9:41 AM Josep Prat
> wrote:
>
> > Hi L
;
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 4:22 AM Josep Prat
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Matthias,
> >
> > Yes, let's add this one to the release. I got the results from the system
> > tests today, and I think once we have this bug fix in, we would be good
> to
> > go.
> >
e to get fixed with 3.8.1
> release: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17731
>
> There is already a PR for it. I did mark the Jira as blocker for 3.8.1
> for now for tracking. Can we consider it for the release?
>
>
> -Matthias
>
> On 9/30/24 1:41 AM, Josep Prat
/17436
>
> best,
> Colin
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2024, at 05:52, Josep Prat wrote:
> > Hi Colin,
> >
> > I want to raise a bug we encountered while testing 3.9 RC0. You can find
> > the report here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17751
> > Its current
ndo García Sancio
wrote:
> Thanks Colin.
>
> KAFKA-16927 has been merged to trunk and the 3.9 branch.
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ook.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Josep,
> > Thanks for applying the first coat of paint 🙂
> >
> > Personally, I think the names you propose are good choices. We have
> > precedent already and the sequence is pretty clear
> > based on the names themselves.
&
me.
Step 2's name is: "Early Access"
Step 3's name is: "Preview"
Step 4's name is: "Production Ready"
These names are aligned with what we've been using up until now. Let's now
discuss the suitability of these names.
Thanks!
On Mon, Sep 16,
to the tiered storage feature (KIP-405). He authored
> KIP-1018
> >> and KIP-1075 which improved tiered storage operation. He also
> contributed
> >> to discussing and reviewing many KIPs.
> >>
> >> Congratulations, Kamal!
> >>
>
Hi there,
I'll attempt to cut the first RC for 3.8.1 this Wednesday. If you have any
bug fix that you'd like to backport to the 3.8 branch and you'd need more
time, please let me know.
Best,
On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 1:15 PM Josep Prat wrote:
> Hi folks!
> As promised, here
I see you have the python script under "committer-tools", I guess I might
need to get used to call that script instead of going to the "pulls" page.
Best,
On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 3:36 PM Josep Prat wrote:
> Hi David,
> I think we need a way to flag in the PR list (
00 AM Josep Prat wrote:
> That's what I feared
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 10:31 AM Chia-Ping Tsai
> wrote:
>
>> hi Josep
>>
>> > Do you see any potential impact if we backport the change to those?
>>
>> In my opinion, the main concern is
gt; manually re-run a GitHub Action via the UI.
> >>
> >> For non-committers, someone must approve the workflow. There is a
> >> "approve-workflows.py" script in committer-tools to help with this. I'm
> >> still investigating options to
Best,
On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 8:24 AM Luke Chen wrote:
> Cool! Thanks for the effort, David!
>
> Luke
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 1:26 PM Josep Prat
> wrote:
>
> > Awesome David!
> >
> > Best,
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> >
Awesome David!
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Chia-Ping Tsai wrote:
> +1
>
> Luke Chen 於 2024年9月20日 週五 下午4:22寫道:
>
> > Thanks Josep!
> > +1
> >
> > Luke
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 3:36 PM Josep Prat
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey folks,
> > >
> > > I
the wiki
> in the next couple of days.
>
> Best,
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e are targeting for 3.8.1 along
with a timeline (aiming probably for a release happening at the beginning
of October).
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> > >
> > > * Protocol:
> > > https://kafka.apache.org/39/protocol.html
> > >
> > > * Tag to be voted upon (off 3.9 branch) is the 3.9.0-rc0 tag:
> > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/releases/tag/3.9.0-rc0
> > >
> > > I'
ep :popcorn:
> >
>
> Maybe this is just me, but using numbers instead of names makes it quite
> hard for me to get a handle on the discussion. I have opinions on what
> alpha / beta / production-ready mean. I don't have opinions on what "Level
> 4" means or what &
Thanks for the great summary David!
GH CI looks indeed really good.
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Hi David,
I checked the PR, looks good! And I think the times set are adequate.
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Congratulations, Jeff!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David (on behalf of the Apache Kafka PMC)
> >
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and Jira ID are "loicgreffier" for both.
>
> Thanks!
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has also contributed
> > to discussing and reviewing many KIPs.
> >
> > Congratulations, Lianet!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David (on behalf of the Apache Kafka PMC)
> >
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literary terms, but it
> might be a bit too idiomatic.
>
> Here' my pick for the bikeshed color:
> 2: Experimental
> 3: Beta
> 4. Stable (or Production)
>
> -David
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 1:51 PM Josep Prat
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Colin,
&g
e feature
can't be used. In level 2 let's say the common flows are. Level 3 all flows
(common and corner cases) are implemented.
Does that make sense?
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tensive documentation exists for users with examples or tutorials if
> needed
> - unit tests cover added functionality
> - integration test suites covering the KIPs functionality
> - system tests if needed
>
> PS. I like the alternative names :)
>
> Best,
> Vikto
various levels. For example,
> > > if a Kafka feature such as “transaction.version” is used to enable a
> KIP,
> > > I suppose it would be introduced at level 3 or later, and switched on
> > > by default at level 4. The same with unstable APIs - I supposed at
> > > levels
's well-understood by our users seems... odd. :)
>
> If we get rid of the level 1 (which doesn't seem useful to me, as I've
> explained above), having "alpha", "beta", and "production" seems very easy
> to understand and friendly for o
). Maybe this KIP should be “Graduation Steps for KIPs”.
>
> AS6: Typo: Level 3 says “This level is optional, and a feature must not go
> through it”. This should probably say “does not need to”.
>
> AS7: I suggest “Incubation” for level 1.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
>
>
> >
on for
> years now, and might frankly never get completed)
>
> Cf
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Kafka+Streams+KIP+Overview
> for examples
>
>
>
> > A feature can be promoted to a "higher" level at any release (including
> patch re
Hi all,
I added a new section in the KIP to specify how to change the graduation
levels for a feature.
Best!
On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 4:01 PM Josep Prat wrote:
> Hi TengYao and Chia-Ping,
>
> I updated the KIP page with examples.
>
> Best,
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 2:39
agree with your perspective.
>
> Best regards,
> TengYao
>
> Josep Prat 於 2024年8月19日 週一 下午6:36寫道:
>
> > Hi TengYao,
> >
> > I get your point. I think smaller features definitely go too quickly
> > through stages to even acknowledge the change.
> > How
d Level 2 into a single unified
> level.
> This merged level could cover the entire phase from when a feature is
> unstable to when it becomes usable but incomplete.
>
> WYDT?
>
> Best regards,
> TengYao
>
> Josep Prat 於 2024年8月19日 週一 上午2:58寫道:
>
> > Hi Chia-Pin
Docker image is level 4.
Does that make sense? If so I can update the KIP with those examples.
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the steps.
Looking forward to your opinions, and hopefully only a tiny bit of
bike-shedding :)
Best,
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the
> > Gradle cache and potentially speed up build times on PRs significantly.
> >
> > I'd like to run both Jenkins and GH Actions side by side for a few weeks
> so
> > we can gather data to make an informed determination.
> >
> > What do folk
Josep Prat created KAFKA-17328:
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Summary: Update Release.py script to point to dist.apache.org/dev
Key: KAFKA-17328
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17328
Project: Kafka
Issue
; shortly in trunk and 3.9.
> >>>
> >>> As previously mentioned, please refrain from changing the Java version
> in trunk (kafka 4.0) until we get an RC out. (However, please do continue
> working on your 4.0 features and other refactors in trunk, even if they
> don
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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12830?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
]
Josep Prat resolved KAFKA-12830.
Resolution: Fixed
> Remove Deprecated constructor in TimeWindowedDeserializer
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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-12832?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
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Josep Prat resolved KAFKA-12832.
Resolution: Fixed
> Remove Deprecated methods un
a
KIP. I'll do in the following days.
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Anna Richardson, Kenneth Chen
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Thu, Aug 1, 2024, at 12:18, Colin McCabe wrote:
> > Hi Josep,
> >
> > I don't have a strong opinion on whether KAFKA-16524 should land in
> > 3.9.1. Let's discuss that more on the mailing list when it's time for
> > 3.9.1.
> >
> > best,
>
>> > >>>> 3. kafka-metadata-quorum describe changes for KIP-853
> > >> > >>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-16521>
> > >> > >>>> 4. kafka-metadata-quorum add voter and remove voter changes
> > >> > >>>>
. Except for some KIPs
that inherently describe a process delivered in stages.
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universal solution is maybe impossible but if we can find
one that fits most of the feature releases we had and we are planning
currently would be great.
Best,
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Aiven Deutschland
;
> Best,
> David
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 4:22 PM Josep Prat
> wrote:
>
> > Hi David,
> >
> > One of the problems I see is that the KIP index page has a 1-to-many
> > relationship between KIP and release. I guess we might want to turn this
> to
&
it pretty nice. We could add the tentative release plan to the KIP's
> header and it could be used as the source of truth.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2024 at 11:53 AM Josep Prat
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew,
> > I can definitely write a KIP, but before doi
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