This behavior tripped me up a couple of times, I was on a specific
documentation version and without realizing I navigated to the "top level"
and went back to the latest version docs

On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 10:19 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io> wrote:

> > I was "lazy" and tried to use the top level quickstart which did not
> > work -- I assumed that the 4.0 quickstart which also work with 3.9?
> > Maybe I am wrong?
>
> The way the files are structured under
> https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/ makes it so that the top level
> quickstart refers always to the latest version. Longer explanation: The
> file rendered when going to https://kafka.apache.org/quickstart is the
> result of
> https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/blob/asf-site/quickstart.html and in
> there one can see a snippet stating that it always shows the latest
> version's quickstart by including at present time the 4.0.x version's
> quickstart:
> <!-- should always link the latest release's documentation -->
>     <!--#include virtual="40/quickstart.html" -->
> <!--#include virtual="includes/_footer.htm" -->
>
> Best,
>
> On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 7:50 AM Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I believe so...
>>
>>
>> 3.9 Quickstart
>>
>> > $ bin/kafka-storage.sh format --standalone -t $KAFKA_CLUSTER_ID -c
>> config/kraft/reconfig-server.properties
>> > $ bin/kafka-server-start.sh config/kraft/reconfig-server.properties
>>
>> 4.0 Quickstart
>>
>> > $ bin/kafka-storage.sh format --standalone -t $KAFKA_CLUSTER_ID -c
>> config/server.properties
>> > $ bin/kafka-server-start.sh config/server.properties
>>
>>
>> -Matthias
>>
>> On 5/9/25 3:23 PM, Justine Olshan wrote:
>> > Matthias -- the kraft server config files moved from kraft folder and no
>> > kraft folder between 3.9 and 4.0 so does that explain your issue?
>> >
>> > Justine
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 9, 2025 at 12:15 PM Matthias J. Sax
>> > <matth...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >> No, 3.9.1 documentation is fine.
>> >>
>> >> I was "lazy" and tried to use the top level quickstart which did not
>> >> work -- I assumed that the 4.0 quickstart which also work with 3.9?
>> >> Maybe I am wrong?
>> >>
>> >> -Matthias
>> >>
>> >> On 5/8/25 9:46 PM, TengYao Chi wrote:
>> >>> Hi Matthias,
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for the testing and vote.
>> >>> Are you saying that when browsing the 3.9.1 documentation, the
>> top-level
>> >>> links still point to the 4.0 QuickStart?
>> >>> Could you please elaborate on the issue in more detail?
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>> TengYao
>> >>>
>> >>> Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>於 2025年5月9日 週五,上午5:57寫道:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I did the following:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - verify all signatures
>> >>>> - build from source (OpenJDK 17, Scala 2.13)
>> >>>> - run all tests
>> >>>>      `OffsetsApiIntegrationTest` failed, but re-run passed
>> >>>> - run quick start (core/connect/streams) using Scala 2.12 binaries
>> >>>> (KRaft mode)
>> >>>> - downloaded both docker images; started them up, and re-run parts of
>> >>>> quickstart
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Btw: seems the top-level quickstart
>> >>>> (https://kafka.apache.org/quickstart) which is not part of the "docs
>> >>>> section" (https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation/#quickstart) is
>> >>>> outdated?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> +1 (binding)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Matthias
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 5/6/25 1:36 AM, Luke Chen wrote:
>> >>>>> Hi Justine,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thank you for your validation.
>> >>>>> Nice catch for the documentation issue!
>> >>>>> We'll fix it soon.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thank you.
>> >>>>> Luke
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sat, May 3, 2025 at 3:12 AM Justine Olshan
>> >>>> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hey folks,
>> >>>>>> Thanks again for your patience!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I've done the following validations:
>> >>>>>> * Verified signatures
>> >>>>>> * Built from source with Java 23
>> >>>>>> * Quickstarts with ZK and Kraft + minor workloads
>> >>>>>> * Took a quick look at the documentation -- one thing I noticed is
>> in
>> >>>> the
>> >>>>>> 3.9 docs, we say the latest version is 3.9.0 from
>> >>>>>>
>> >> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/3.9.1-rc1/docs/js/templateData.js
>> >>>>>> Should this
>> >>>>>> be updated? It seems like other patch releases have this change in
>> the
>> >>>> RC
>> >>>>>> tag.
>> >>>>>> * Browsed some of the other resources and test results
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I think maybe the website issue doesn't require a new RC, but it
>> may
>> >> be
>> >>>>>> good to fix. Barring that, +1 (binding) from me.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>> Justine
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 9:27 AM Justine Olshan <
>> jols...@confluent.io>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I will try to take a look today. Thanks folks
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Justine
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 7:42 PM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> So far, we've got 3 non-binding votes for v3.9.1 release.
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks everyone who helped validate this!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Could PMC members (and contributors) take some time to help
>> validate
>> >>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>> RC build?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>>>>> Luke
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>>>>> Luke
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 10:34 AM TengYao Chi <
>> frankvi...@apache.org
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I want to bump this thread since the RC vote is about to be due.
>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for your attention.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>> TengYao
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Edoardo Comar <edoardli...@gmail.com> 於 2025年4月25日 週五 下午9:32寫道:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Luke,  TengYao
>> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19563
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 at 12:18, Edoardo Comar <
>> >> edoardli...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Luke, as discussed in the issue
>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka-site/pull/685
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 at 12:04, 黃竣陽 <s7133...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello TengYao,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've completed the following tests on my local machine:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Built from source using JDK 21 & JDK 17 (Zulu)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Executed all unit and integration tests
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Ran the quickstart successfully
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - test console consumer and producer
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jiunn-Yang
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> 於 2025年4月24日 下午2:32 寫道:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Update the system tests result link:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lf7EH-m8PNPGfv7Fj3-FLnz_UH3un41n
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Summary: All the 1st run failed tests can pass after re-run.
>> >>>>>> So
>> >>>>>>>>> they
>> >>>>>>>>>> are
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> just flaky. No issues found.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Luke
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 11:57 PM Kuan Po Tseng <
>> >>>>>>>>> brandb...@apache.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi TengYao,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did some testing on the upgrade path:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Set up a ZK-based Kafka cluster on 3.5, created some
>> >>>>>> topics,
>> >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> produced a bunch of messages
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Upgraded to 3.9.1-RC1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Migrated to KRaft
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And everything worked smoothly!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for all your hard work!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kuan-Po Tseng
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025/04/23 09:00:00 TengYao Chi wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Kafka users, developers, and client-developers,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the second candidate for the release of Apache
>> Kafka
>> >>>>>>>>> 3.9.1.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This RC fixed the release tag off to a temporary branch
>> >>>>>> issue
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (KAFKA-19166
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-19166>)
>> >>>>>> compared
>> >>>>>>>>>> with RC0.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a bug-fix release with several fixes, and most
>> >>>>>>>>>> importantly, it
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adds
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java 23 support for 3.9
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release notes for the 3.9.1 release:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/3.9.1-rc1/RELEASE_NOTES.html
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please download, test, and vote by *Wednesday, April 30,
>> >>>>>> 9:00
>> >>>>>>>> AM
>> >>>>>>>>>> PT*
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the
>> >>>>>>>> release:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/KEYS
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Release artifacts to be voted upon (source and binary):
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/3.9.1-rc1/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Docker release artifacts to be voted upon:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache/kafka:3.9.1-rc1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> https://hub.docker.com/layers/apache/kafka/3.9.1-rc1/images/sha256-459c4e12260a1426a4f53c357d6e0c52b58ed70ff4118de1ffceb3f131d64a2a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache/kafka-native:3.9.1-rc1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> https://hub.docker.com/layers/apache/kafka-native/3.9.1-rc1/images/sha256-be97bd4564444cae8a9880a4eaa1a594df2d2e5ea0b8990228751cdef278faca
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Maven artifacts to be voted upon:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Javadoc:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/3.9.1-rc1/javadoc/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Tag to be voted upon (off 3.9 branch) is the 3.9.1 tag:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/releases/tag/3.9.1-rc1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Documentation:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/39/documentation.html
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Protocol:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://kafka.apache.org/39/protocol.html
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * CI builds for the 3.9 branch:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unit/integration tests (There are some flaky tests):
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Kafka/job/kafka/job/3.9/194/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> System tests:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jenkins.opensource4you.tw/job/kafka-e2e/304/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Successful Docker Image Github Actions Pipeline for 3.9
>> >>>>>>>> branch:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Docker Build Test Pipeline (JVM):
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/14597360082
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Docker Build Test Pipeline (Native):
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/14597364430
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TengYao Chi
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
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