Hi Colin,
I see that you made 3.9 the default docs version in Kafka-Site. However, as
your doc changes were pushed before the 3.8.1 release, now the upgrade.html
page doesn't mention 3.8.1 at all. I'll update the site.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 4:48 PM Viktor Somogyi-Vass
<viktor.somo...@cloudera.com.invalid> wrote:

> Ok, sorry for the noise. It seems like my setup was incorrectly configured,
> one controller had an incorrect voters config and that caused the issue.
> Retested it and it works now.
> But given this, I might as well just give a +1. :)
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 2:53 PM Viktor Somogyi-Vass <
> viktor.somo...@cloudera.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey All,
> >
> > It seems like I ran into an issue. While trying to do the migration (3.9
> > ZK -> 3.9 KRaft), at the very last step the whole cluster (except the
> > controller I just restarted) fails with a fatal error where a controller
> (I
> > think) requests a truncation that is below the HWM.
> > I tried to capture everything but with the configs and the steps I
> > described it can be reproduced every time.
> >
> > I started looking into it, but since I'm completely unfamiliar with many
> > parts of KRaft, I'd be happy if someone else more familiar with it could
> > look at it. Especially if I didn't follow the migration procedure well
> (but
> > I think I did so).
> > All the info captured here:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-17950
> >
> > Viktor
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 11:00 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Argh. That should read "5 +1 votes". :)
> >>
> >> Thanks, everyone.
> >> Colin
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024, at 14:58, Colin McCabe wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > This vote passes with 7 +1 votes (3 bindings) and no 0 or -1 votes.
> >> >
> >> > +1 votes
> >> > PMC Members:
> >> > * Justine Olshan
> >> > * Bill Bejeck
> >> > * David Arthur
> >> > * Luke Chen
> >> >
> >> > Community:
> >> > * Federico Valeri
> >> >
> >> > 0 votes
> >> > * No votes
> >> >
> >> > -1 votes
> >> > * No votes
> >> >
> >> > Vote thread:
> >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/og8l24z8oj87x0zsoqddfxo54qsj4d1o
> >> >
> >> > I'll continue with the release process and the release announcement
> >> > will follow in the next few days.
> >> >
> >> > best,
> >> > Colin
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2024, at 21:03, Luke Chen wrote:
> >> >> Hi Colin,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for the update.
> >> >> I've ran a sanity check as Mickael suggested for the maven artifacts
> >> with
> >> >> the one in https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/3.9.0-rc5/.
> >> >> I used jarcomp <
> >> https://activityworkshop.net/software/jarcomp/index.html>
> >> >> to verify:
> >> >> 1. kafka_2.13-3.9.0.jar
> >> >> 2. kafka-clients-3.9.0.jar
> >> >> 3. kafka-metadata-3.9.0.jar
> >> >>
> >> >> I confirmed all the class files in the jars have the same content.
> >> >>
> >> >> So +1 (binding) from me.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you.
> >> >> Luke
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 1:08 AM Mickael Maison <
> >> mickael.mai...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Can we add sanity checks to ensure all artifacts are present when
> >> >>> running the release?
> >> >>> Also should we use a different folder for each RC? This would
> >> >>> eliminate the risk of artifacts from previous RCs hiding an issue.
> >> >>> Luke spotted the old artifacts this time but this could have been
> >> >>> missed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>> Mickael
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 5:55 PM Colin McCabe <cmcc...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Hi David,
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Thanks for checking. I took a look and yes, I did forget to upload
> >> the
> >> >>> Scala 2.12 artifacts previously. The script runs gradlewAll, but
> when
> >> I was
> >> >>> trying to do the steps manually, I missed that and just ran gradlew,
> >> which
> >> >>> only did Scala 2.13.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > This should be fixed now!
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > The scala 2.12 artifacts are here:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekafka-1827/
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > and also here:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
> >>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/kafka_2.12/3.9.0/
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > I wonder if we should change the release.py script to just run the
> >> >>> gradlew steps manually. The gradlewAll script seems a bit confusing
> >> (or
> >> >>> maybe that's just me?)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > best,
> >> >>> > Colin
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024, at 11:02, David Arthur wrote:
> >> >>> > > Should there be Scala 2.12 artifacts in the Maven staging?
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > I see these for 2.13:
> >> >>> > > *
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>>
> >>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/kafka_2.13/3.9.0/
> >> >>> > > *
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>>
> >>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/kafka-streams-scala_2.13/3.9.0/
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > but I don't see 2.12 for 3.9.0 release.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > I can confirm that the other artifacts (such as kafka-clients)
> do
> >> have
> >> >>> > > today's timestamp for the 3.9.0 artifact.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > -David
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 12:36 PM Colin McCabe <
> cmcc...@apache.org
> >> >
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >> Thanks for checking, Luke. I did actually visit
> >> >>> > >> https://repository.apache.org/#stagingRepositories and hit
> >> close on
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> > >> artifacts as the release.py script says to do. I don't know why
> >> they
> >> >>> ended
> >> >>> > >> up not showing up.
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> Today I dropped all the maven artifacts for previous 3.9 RCs,
> >> >>> switched to
> >> >>> > >> java 8, and re-ran "gradlew publish" and "mvn deploy
> >> -Pgpg-signing".
> >> >>> Then I
> >> >>> > >> closed the two artifacts that were uploaded. You can see them
> >> here:
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>>
> >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekafka-1825/
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>>
> >> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekafka-1826/
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> Hopefully these should now show up in Maven as expected.
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> best,
> >> >>> > >> Colin
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024, at 23:51, Luke Chen wrote:
> >> >>> > >> > Hi Colin,
> >> >>> > >> >
> >> >>> > >> > I was trying to test the RC, but I found the artifacts in
> Maven
> >> >>> artifacts
> >> >>> > >> > to be voted upon are not up-to-date.
> >> >>> > >> > Not only the "Last Modified" time in the 3.9.0 artifacts are
> on
> >> >>> Oct. 10,
> >> >>> > >> > but also the source code in the artifacts didn't include the
> >> latest
> >> >>> > >> commits
> >> >>> > >> > in RC5 here <
> >> https://github.com/apache/kafka/commits/3.9.0-rc5/>.
> >> >>> > >> >
> >> >>> > >> > Could you help verify it?
> >> >>> > >> >
> >> >>> > >> > But I confirmed the release artifacts in "
> >> >>> > >> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/3.9.0-rc5/"; is
> >> >>> up-to-date.
> >> >>> > >> > I did:
> >> >>> > >> > - checked the checksums and signatures
> >> >>> > >> > - ran upgrade from v3.8.1 to v3.9.0
> >> >>> > >> > - ran quickstart with the 2.13 binaries
> >> >>> > >> > - verify tiered storage and KIP-950 (dynamically disablement)
> >> >>> > >> >
> >> >>> > >> > I'll be +1 after the maven artifacts are updated.
> >> >>> > >> >
> >> >>> > >> > Thank you for running the release.
> >> >>> > >> > Luke
> >> >>> > >> >
> >> >>> > >> >
> >> >>> > >> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 5:40 AM Justine Olshan
> >> >>> > >> <jols...@confluent.io.invalid>
> >> >>> > >> > wrote:
> >> >>> > >> >
> >> >>> > >> >> Hey Colin,
> >> >>> > >> >>
> >> >>> > >> >> Thanks for the new RC. I've tested the --feature
> functionality
> >> >>> that was
> >> >>> > >> >> missing before. Seems to be working as expected now.
> >> >>> > >> >> As a side note, I was looking into how to configure kip-853
> >> and it
> >> >>> took
> >> >>> > >> me
> >> >>> > >> >> a moment to find the instructions in the documentation, I
> >> wonder
> >> >>> if it
> >> >>> > >> >> could be included in the notable changes section of the
> >> upgrade
> >> >>> notes.
> >> >>> > >> Not
> >> >>> > >> >> a blocker as I believe we can still update documentation.
> >> >>> > >> >>
> >> >>> > >> >> I did some other spot checks on the rest of the release. +1
> >> >>> (binding)
> >> >>> > >> from
> >> >>> > >> >> me
> >> >>> > >> >>
> >> >>> > >> >> Justine
> >> >>> > >> >>
> >> >>> > >> >> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 12:45 PM Colin McCabe <
> >> cmcc...@apache.org>
> >> >>> > >> wrote:
> >> >>> > >> >>
> >> >>> > >> >> > Thanks, Anton. And thanks Chia-Ping Tsai for taking a look
> >> at
> >> >>> how we
> >> >>> > >> can
> >> >>> > >> >> > improve the docs here...
> >> >>> > >> >> >
> >> >>> > >> >> > best,
> >> >>> > >> >> > Colin
> >> >>> > >> >> >
> >> >>> > >> >> >
> >> >>> > >> >> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2024, at 02:39, Anton Agestam wrote:
> >> >>> > >> >> > > Hi Chia-Ping,
> >> >>> > >> >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > > Thanks for pointing those two fields out. I retract my
> -1.
> >> >>> > >> >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > > Cheers,
> >> >>> > >> >> > > Anton
> >> >>> > >> >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > > Den sön 27 okt. 2024 kl 17:40 skrev Chia-Ping Tsai <
> >> >>> > >> >> chia7...@apache.org
> >> >>> > >> >> > >:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> hi Anton
> >> >>> > >> >> > >>
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> Thanks for sharing your insights on Kafka
> >> serialization—it’s
> >> >>> really
> >> >>> > >> >> cool
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> and interesting to me. Additionally, you inspired me to
> >> file
> >> >>> a JIRA
> >> >>> > >> >> > issue
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> (KAFKA-17882) to improve the documentation.
> >> >>> > >> >> > >>
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> The most important aspect of Kafka is compatibility,
> and
> >> the
> >> >>> > >> >> > undocumented
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> behavior has been in place for some time [0][1]. This
> >> means
> >> >>> > >> there’s no
> >> >>> > >> >> > need
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> to rush your improvement for 3.9, as we’ll need to
> >> explicitly
> >> >>> add
> >> >>> > >> >> > default
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> values after applying your patch to ensure we generate
> >> the
> >> >>> same
> >> >>> > >> binary
> >> >>> > >> >> > data.
> >> >>> > >> >> > >>
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> In short, we can improve the documentation first. In
> the
> >> >>> meantime,
> >> >>> > >> we
> >> >>> > >> >> > can
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> continue discussing behavior clarification for 4.0, and
> >> RM
> >> >>> can keep
> >> >>> > >> >> > running
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> the RC for 3.9. Everything is on track.
> >> >>> > >> >> > >>
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> Best,
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> Chia-Ping
> >> >>> > >> >> > >>
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> [0]
> >> >>> > >> >> > >>
> >> >>> > >> >> >
> >> >>> > >> >>
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/3.8/clients/src/main/resources/common/message/FetchSnapshotResponse.json#L43
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> [1]
> >> >>> > >> >> > >>
> >> >>> > >> >> >
> >> >>> > >> >>
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/3.8/group-coordinator/src/main/resources/common/message/ConsumerGroupMemberMetadataValue.json#L39
> >> >>> > >> >> > >>
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> On 2024/10/27 15:28:05 Anton Agestam wrote:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > -1, refer to comments on the RC 2 thread.
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > Den sön 27 okt. 2024 kl 02:51 skrev Colin McCabe <
> >> >>> > >> >> cmcc...@apache.org
> >> >>> > >> >> > >:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > This is the RC5 candidate for the release of Apache
> >> Kafka
> >> >>> > >> 3.9.0.
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - This is a major release, the final one in the 3.x
> >> line.
> >> >>> > >> (There
> >> >>> > >> >> > may of
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > course be other minor releases in this line, such
> as
> >> >>> 3.9.1.)
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - Tiered storage will be considered
> production-ready
> >> in
> >> >>> this
> >> >>> > >> >> > release.
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - This will be the final major release to feature
> the
> >> >>> > >> deprecated
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> ZooKeeper
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > mode.
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > This release includes the following KIPs:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - KIP-853: Support dynamically changing KRaft
> >> controller
> >> >>> > >> >> membership
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - KIP-1057: Add remote log metadata flag to the
> dump
> >> log
> >> >>> tool
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - KIP-1049: Add config log.summary.interval.ms to
> >> Kafka
> >> >>> > >> Streams
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - KIP-1040: Improve handling of nullable values in
> >> >>> InsertField,
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > ExtractField, and other transformations
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - KIP-1031: Control offset translation in
> >> >>> MirrorSourceConnector
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - KIP-1033: Add Kafka Streams exception handler for
> >> >>> exceptions
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> occurring
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > during processing
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - KIP-1017: Health check endpoint for Kafka Connect
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - KIP-1025: Optionally URL-encode clientID and
> >> >>> clientSecret in
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > authorization header
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - KIP-1005: Expose EarliestLocalOffset and
> >> TieredOffset
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - KIP-950: Tiered Storage Disablement
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > - KIP-956: Tiered Storage Quotas
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > Release notes for the 3.9.0 release:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >>
> >> >>> > >> >> >
> >> >>> > >> >>
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>>
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/3.9.0-rc5/RELEASE_NOTES.html
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > *** Please download, test and vote by October 30,
> >> 2024.
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > Kafka's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to
> sign
> >> the
> >> >>> > >> release:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > https://kafka.apache.org/KEYS
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > * Release artifacts to be voted upon (source and
> >> binary):
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/3.9.0-rc5/
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > * Docker release artifacts to be voted upon:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > apache/kafka:3.9.0-rc5
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > apache/kafka-native:3.9.0-rc5
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > * Maven artifacts to be voted upon:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> >
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>>
> >> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > * Javadoc:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/3.9.0-rc5/javadoc/
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > * Documentation:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > https://kafka.apache.org/39/documentation.html
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > * Protocol:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > https://kafka.apache.org/39/protocol.html
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > * Tag to be voted upon (off 3.9 branch) is the
> >> 3.9.0-rc5
> >> >>> tag:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> https://github.com/apache/kafka/releases/tag/3.9.0-rc5
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > * Successful Docker Image Github Actions Pipeline
> >> for 3.9
> >> >>> > >> branch:
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > Docker Build Test Pipeline (JVM):
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/11535300463
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > Docker Build Test Pipeline (Native):
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/11535328957
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > Thanks to everyone who helped with this release
> >> candidate,
> >> >>> > >> either
> >> >>> > >> >> by
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > contributing code, testing, or documentation.
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > Regards,
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > Colin
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> > >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >> >
> >> >>> > >> >> > >>
> >> >>> > >> >> >
> >> >>> > >> >>
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > --
> >> >>> > > David Arthur
> >> >>>
> >>
> >
>


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