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Le Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 01:27:51PM -0700, Ben Hutchings a écrit :
> On Sun, 2012-08-26 at 19:55 +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> >
> > With things like SVG it's
Le Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:48:01AM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
>
> That's the reason why people are pursuing generating the metamail-style
> database *from* the XDG MIME specification so that we can use a richer
> specification in as many places as possible but fall back on the previous
> standa
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advanced solutions. I hope that the recent upload of mime-support to
experimental is a clear enough message.
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If this is unclear in the current specification, it can be clarified in the
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wonder if it would not be better to keep it as declarative as possible.
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Le Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 08:44:36AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
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> in the case of the Files-Excluded field, the contents of the field are
> directly
> executed.
I mean: the contents are transferred to an expression that is directly executed.
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> On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 03:15:27PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > Charles Plessy writes ("Re: Files-Excluded field and security implications
> > of uscan and debian/copyright."):
> > > Le Fri
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> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 04:30:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
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> > For the packages that I started and on which I am still a major
> > contributor, I
> > would like Upstream to include a
recates the convention for newly defined parameters with textual
(as opposed to numerical) names in application protocols.
Full text available at http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648
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mailing list (debian-python in that case).
http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/PythonModulesTeam/
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to track this suggestion.
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y with the licenses.
I use the machine-readable format because I feel that it makes my work simpler
as a maintainer.
If it makes your work harder, then by all means do not use it.
It is just as simple as this.
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> 1. I have dropped the {xpm,noxpm} dichotomy and there's only
>libgd2-dev now. There are transitional packages which are ment
>to help with the move to libgd2-dev, so you don't have to make
>any changes right now - the
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would there be a volunteer to summarise this discussion as a patch to the
Developers's Reference ? You do not need to be an expert: reading and
understanding this thread is enough.
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>
> +1. It would be a useful default.
See also:
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http://wiki.debian.org/Debate
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> the ftp-master/buildd side will take a much longer way.
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piuparts
could support running Autopkgtests as well ?
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ackage can use it, but it is not part of
the upstream source (which is not Amazon), so I really would prefer to ship
the certificate somewhere else.
I proposed ca-certificates earlier, but the result was inconclusive.
http://bugs.debian.org/573857
Would there be a volunteer to maintai
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Thanks a lot. Please do not hesitate to remove leaf packages like mira
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> > On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 09:37:54AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > > Le Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 02:06:26PM +0200, Niels Thykier a écrit :
> > > >
> > > > Our automated tool
tion with autopkgtest (DEP 8) for instance ?
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packages are maintained.
http://upstream-metadata.debian.net/table/contact
In some cases, it is a valid email address. Perhaps you can give it a priority
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files is optional, and the whole format is optional too. I recommend to use
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provide a way to update metadata without uploading the package.
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d name the original authors" by "should
provide contact information for license questions" ?
I think that there is value to correct this point even if we can not define
precisely what should or must be in the Debian copyright file as a whole.
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Le Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 05:06:59AM +, Bart Martens a écrit :
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 08:24:30AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > How about simply replacing "should name the original authors" by "should
> > provide contact information for license questions&quo
oud-final
121 sysvinit/cloud-init
121 sysvinit/cloud-init-local
Doesn't that underline that "classical" init scripts are a big waste of time
for maintainers, and a workload that can not be shared between distributions ?
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ter ? Bets are
funnier if there is a concrete consequence with both outcomes. How about
triaging 100 bugs of your choice for instance ?
The problem is that, if it is too cheap to predict bad things on that list and
be wrong, then the proportion of relevant messages on this list will
decrease...
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greetings and more "advices"...
In summary, I welcome the goal of increasing new contributions to Debian, but
recommend to pick a more casual name for your project.
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ome of the new pakcages that need to be introduced, which added a
long waiting period to the process. When they will be accepted in Debian,
ggplot2 will be updated a soon as possile.
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s decision and stick to it. But I
warn that it may have the consequence of moving most of them to non-free,
despite the data in binaryformat is freely modifiable or exportable to text
format with R, which is a Free software that we distribute.
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so that we can better decide if we
undertake the work at all.
Currently, my take would be to move packages to non-free. This would also
allow us to ship the PDF documentation that we currently delete.
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> While writing this answer, I also read Don's email advocating for Debian to
> take the lead and change the current practice in the R community, that prefers
> to ditribute data as R binary objects in the sourc
a (much simpler) work on line at http://clonotyper.branchable.com/
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> I would like to propose full UTF-8 support. I don't mean here full
> support for all of Unicode's finer points, merely complete eradication of
> mojibake.
Hi Adam,
this is a great goal. Here are two comments.
There is a rel
characters that are not in ASCII.
See http://bugs.debian.org/701081 for further discussion.
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Le Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 08:12:24AM +0200, Christian PERRIER a écrit :
> Quoting Charles Plessy (ple...@debian.org):
>
> > About display by GUIs, I think that we should have a system to install all
> > the
> > fonts necessary to display languages that we support at the in
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In some cases I found it quite useful. Have you considered integrating logs in
dgit ? In a somehow similar goal (finding difference between builds), have you
also considered committing the contents of the unpacked binary packages in
other branches ?
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that a quick inspection of the package could have shown you that replacing the
current content of the Files field by "*" would have solved the problem
entirely. I will re-upload "when I have time".
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important to have at least a clear separation between the blocking issues and
the personal comments. In the case of pv-grub-menu, I am left with the
questions "What else shall I do that I have not tried yet ? How many weeks or
monthes shall I try before giving up", which will waste time on
it as such in your rejection message. Otherwise,
a policy about small packages would have been helpful.
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the combination of licenses requires to keep all the sources", plus a footnote
informing that the case of the libc and libgcc are being investigated, and that
the current practice is to consider that we can benefit form their exception to
the GPL.
Please let us know your thou
bian.org/dgit-repos/repos/pv-grub-menu.git’ gives
‘warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.’
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ics on the top of the list, to not do so in a
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thanks
Le Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 08:57:34AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> I would like to make the short-term clarification for the next revision of the
> Policy. In its simplest form, it could be the addition of something like
> "when
> the com
Le Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:56:28AM +0200, Paul Wise a écrit :
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
>
> > do you think that the attached patch would solve the problem ?
>
> There are more reasons for using Built-Using than licenses, for example:
>
> Re
riting something clear.
If my patch is a good start, could somebody improve it ?
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>From e61b6e81b923d4d39b5089e87e9cad02140d5cc9 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Charles Plessy
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 21:21:25 +0900
Subject: [PATCH
, it makes the work easier for some and harder for others; let's see in
a couple of years what it means for Debian in terms of being a good platform
for R users. You already got a hint from one of Dirk's email: there is some
excellent work that is done outside Debian.
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side.
https://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/DebianMenuUsingDesktopEntries#Parallel_between_Menu_and_Desktop_entries
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explains that the Debian archive uses the Built-Using field to retain source
packages.
What do you think about it ?
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>From ee6c716663bbd8652b96e7e53743bf0e1e276003 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Charles Ple
removals (and the automated "autopkg"
testing) are a big step forward. Let me take this opportunity to thank to the
Release team for this !
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Le Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 05:30:12PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> The attached patch is a third attempt, which underlines that the Built-Using
> field is particularly useful when a given package, contributing contents
> included in another package, can not be replaced by a later
th the Field::Biology tag. If you are interested I would be
willing to inspect the corner cases (such as mencal ?), in order to devise a
better filter for listing the packages related to biology and bioinformatics to
skip on m68k, and other low-power architectures if their porters are intersted.
i-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=582109#209
I plan a Policy update by the end of October, and my gut feeling is that if by
that time, peple stay silent on the issue, the work will go straight in the
dust bin. I am of course happy to delay a bit the update if one needs more time
to review the patches.
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en a bug on the
Policy.
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ke it a lot, and would be extremely disapointed if in the
future I can not have it anymore because regular fingerpointing and accusation
would be driving out people who undertake a such a heavy task as maintaining a
destkop environment.
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have been
avoided, etc. If on the other hand it wins to all other options, you will have
learned for yourself, at the expense of the other developers, that your
understanding of the situation was wrong, which is still less bad than being
left with "further discussion" only.
Currentl
I also think that it is premature to make a decision without seeing the
final implementations working.
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are there Debian Developers seconding or objecting to this new virtual package
name ?
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> On Saturday, October 26, 2013 10:45:55 Charles Plessy wrote:
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> > Conflict of interest is not a judgement on a person. It is a judgement
> > about a situation, and a recommendation on how systematically react,
> > without making exceptions.
Le Fri, Oct 25, 2013
lintian
> override?
The solution is to the change Policy :)
See http://bugs.debian.org/190753 for more discussion.
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So, how would the merge in /usr would be implemented in practice ?
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ou use an unversionned URL,
it will be fine.
The URL chosen in #640737 will probably available by the next upload of the
Policy, but that upload is decided taking other factors than the DEP into
account, so I can not give a timeline, as I am not a maintainer of the Policy.
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this is the main message here – we could
reach it considering all the packages that are part of the same release, by
using the dpkg source format 3.0 (git), which would be an efficient way to
distribute past source versions and point at the preferred one at the same
time.
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alternative path names when both A and B are
installed. The wrappers for all names could be provided by a third package.
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the policy on the main namespace is draconian and creates incompatiblities
between Debian and the rest of the world, then we need easy mechanisms for our
users to switch namespaces. Perhaps the Debian Pure Blends are a good tool for
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evidence that it is unsuitable, see http://bugs.debian.org/642801.
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default; requested in http://bugs.debian.org/625940. But this does not
completely solve the problem, as when working on the master branch, ‘git pull’
will not automatically fast-forward the pristine-tar branch.
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e format are of course possible, as a
new DEP (taking as inspiration the RFCs 822, 2822 and then 5322), or outside
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or planned purposes.
Can we take ‘upstream’ in the ‘debian/’ namespace ?
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s make sure it happens.
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blem is more stalling than
accepting them too early. I admit that as DEP admins, we have not done a good
job at pinging DEP drivers. Because of the current confusion of roles on DEP
5, that I push as a driver, I am waiting for its completion before pinging
other DEPs as admin.
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Le Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 06:13:05PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit :
> Charles Plessy writes:
>
> > I do not intend to push a document on which persons disagree, so please,
> > if you think that there are serious problems with the current wording
> > DEP 5, or if you found
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Charles Plessy
Package name: umegaya
Version : 0
Upstream Author : Charles Plessy
URL : http://upstream-metadata.debian.net/
License : BOLA-1.1
Programming Lang: Perl
Description : Umegaya is a MEtadata
please let me suggest that the best way
to close the debate is to finish that work.
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scope of the version 1.0 that we are
preparing. What I propose, if you think it is worth, is to open a bug, to
track that request for the next revision.
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Le Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 09:50:09AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> 1) DEP 5 and directory/file names with spaces
>(http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/06/msg00155.html)
>
> My summary is that the participants were quite divided on whether separating
> the list of
g
> the only way previously to effect a version change.
Hi,
I think that it is important for maintainers that who decided the binNMU and
the reason for it are recorded in the changelog, because often these changes
are not triggred or coordinated by the maintainers themselves.
Have a nice da
ved in a future
version if there is a solution that satisfies both the developers who write the
files and the developers who write the parsers.
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resolve difficult cases, and for the next revision, I encourage to propose more
in-depth changes as a bug to the debian-policy package. But let's go ahead
with the examples as they are now.
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the spec, please raise your hand and make concrete and
comprehensive propositions. I intend to mark this DEP accepted this week
(Japan time; some timezones are still on week-end) unless critical problems
are reported or delays are asked with a timeline.
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Package: wnpp
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Package name: permute
Version : 0.6-3
Upstream Author : Gavin L. Simpson
URL : http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/permute/
License : GPL-2
Programming Lang: R
Description : R functions
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Charles Plessy
Package name: vegan
Version : 2.0-2
Upstream Author : Jari Oksanen, F. Guillaume Blanchet, Roeland Kindt, Pierre
Legendre, Peter R. Minchin, R. B. O'Hara, Gavin L. Simpson, Peter Solymos, M.
Henry H. Stevens, H
Le Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:35:57AM -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit :
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > Package name: vegan
>
> New R packages shouldn't be added with a source name that does not
> match the single binary package that they produce. Please
nse to have a
common one (drafted as a DEP ?).
PS: for the new debian-cran prepository, please consider using the magic tilde
in the version numbers.
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even if one is inferior or typograhpically illogical.
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