Hi Paul, FTP team and everybody, first, let me underline that if the FTP team wants to disuss and amend its decision, I will be happy to participate.
I think that the only good solution is to engage with the R community and make them change their practice of distributing data in binary format in the source packages. I think unfortunately that it will not work by taking a decision first, and ask them to follow us. To me the FTP team's attitude (no discussion, no transition, no plan for the packages currently in the archive) is blocking a global resolution of the problem. The examples given in the FTP team's decision email are contrieved and quite off-topic to the core of the problem, give the impression of a poor understanding of R, and contribute to the whole email being an obstacle in engaging a productive discussion with the R community. Of course, I am happy to be proven wrong here. On top of that, it has been a couple of monthes that I was wondering which packages I have to stop working on because I do not have time anymore; your decision and attitude guided my hand for slashing the first 10-20 %. In deciding whether to announce this in public, I had on one side the confrontational impression that it gives, and on the other side, my impression that since I have been doing large quantities of team uploads in the past two R API transitions, it would be better to make it clear that I am not available anymore for this. And that it will also not be me who will check the existing packages: no transition you planned, no help I give. For the rest of the discussion, please let me try to close it by briefly asking everybody to 1) judge people on their actions, not on speculations and 2) never propose somebody's resignation from Debian unless there is actual misbehaviour and good confidence that an expulsion procedure would be successful. I think that this is the only way to keep Debian "universal". Finally, to summarise my standpoint: if we can not speak with one voice to solve the problem upstream, let's agree that we disagree and move to something else. Have a nice Sunday, -- Charles Plessy Debian Med packaging team, http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130922032811.ga32...@falafel.plessy.net
