Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think that the best solution to many of the worlds problems would be to
> provide really cheap laptops and good net access (including satellite net
> access). The idea is that everyone in the world should be able to download
> whatever they like (w
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:57:56PM +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 06:17:37PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a
> > CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons.
>
> I'd rather live with this risk than with less freedom.
only
Quoting Fernanda Giroleti Weiden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Hi all,
> I read all the thread and I noted you are forgeting a main problem about
> this package. In my point of view:
>
> First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on Debian
> in which you have pictures of nude women is V
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:34:06PM -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
[... nonsense ...]
Where did you see someone asking for inclusion of child porn ?
Mike
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:34:06 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: And we have no time to set up i
>> judgement over content -- there is a clea
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 07:53:41AM +0100, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> As already written in -women, this is the point which saddens me the
> most in this thread. I'm really disappointed by seeing most
> contributors just not realize why this package, as proposed, is likely
> to
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:03:59 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> You are quite right. We cannot fight all battles for everyone.
> Let's make an operating system.
And stop trying to censor data and make sure our users are
only exposed to RightThink. We should stop being the
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 21:57:20 -0500, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wednesday 01 December 2004 06:55 pm, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> > But by this logic, Debian should include every bit of software it
>> > can -- if those countries with pesky copyright laws won't let us
>> > distribut
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:23:21 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 17:55, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:41:30 -0600, Joe Wreschnig
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>> > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:42, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 30 Nov 2
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:38:03AM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2004-12-01 18:23:47, schrieb sean finney:
>
> > then don't give your daughter sudo privileges on your debian machines,
> > and she can't install it! :)
>
> Too late... She is 13 and Administrator already...
> Had learned very
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:34:06PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > And we have no time to set up i judgement over content --
> > there is a clear cri
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:43:56 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 22:44, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> These nebulous authorities also frown upon various other things,
>> depending on your jurisdiction -- games of chance, the bible, games
>> promoting violence, text
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:47:47 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 22:15, Andrew Suffield wrote:
>> Anybody who can't obtain porn using only the tools provided on a
>> Debian CD is a total moron. You might as well complain that the
>> internet is bad, just because
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 07:53:41 +0100, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Quoting Fernanda Giroleti Weiden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>> Hi all, I read all the thread and I noted you are forgeting a main
>> problem about this package. In my point of view:
>>
>> First of all, it's a sexist packa
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:47:11 +, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> We need to decide what statutes if any this program could violate
>> if distributed, and if the risks of alienating/denying that portion
>> of users (in this case, people under
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:18:35PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:01:06AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >> Then, Disk 1 (which is very full-featured, after all) can be
> >> passed out where ever an
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:06:13PM +, Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I think that is the main issue here. I would like to believe that Debian
> is capable of showing more respect for other people than including hotbabe
> in the distribution would indicate.
Yeah, i would like D
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:19 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 04:46:18 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Put such possibly controversial matter in contrib?
>
> No. Contrib is meant for things that depend on stuff that is
> not free,
Ok.
> an
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:53 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 18:09:48 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > If my wife saw my son with these pictures on a disk that I gave him,
> > she'd take a frying pan and beat me dead.
>
> I am sure I would say the same
Quoting Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Packages can hurt feelings, yes. vi hurts mine. The bible
> hurts other peoples. purity-off also hurt a lot of peoples
> feelings. Can't please everyone. There are over 15k packages in
> debian. Some of them surely hurt the sensibilities of
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 01:36, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:23:21 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 17:55, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> And how do we find who we are alienating? Oh, I know: lets have a
> >> GR.
>
> > Don't put words in my m
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 16:07 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:35:04 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 21:23 -0500, David Nusinow wrote:
> >> On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 08:51:55PM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote:
> >> > I'm not sure, how »po
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 23:13 +, Will Newton wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 11:15, Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> > Well, guess what? I live in the American South, and I'd like to
> > give away disks to young geeks and wannabees without having to
> > worry about whether his/her parents or teacher wo
Mike Hommey wrote:
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:06:13PM +, Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
I think that is the main issue here. I would like to believe that Debian
is capable of showing more respect for other people than including hotbabe
in the distribution would indicate.
Yeah, i
On Thursday 02 December 2004 16:21, Ron Johnson wrote:
> "anything that promotes free speech" is pretty vague, but, for
> example, the PRC might not allow crypto s/w. Thus, maybe non-US
> may need to be renamed non-PRC?
They do allow crypto s/w, AFAIK. At least none of my friends got
detained ye
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:23 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:08:59 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > However, pornography causes significant legal problems in the US,
> > and probably moreso in many other countries. If I give a Debian CD
> > containing th
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 01:54 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:57:56PM +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 06:17:37PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a
> > > CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons.
> >
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 16:29 +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:34:06PM -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> [... nonsense ...]
>
> Where did you see someone asking for inclusion of child porn ?
John was taking Manoj's reasoning to the limit.
--
---
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 01:30 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:34:06 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: And we
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 02:44:22 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 01:30 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:34:06 -0600, John Goerzen
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >> O
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 02:40:47 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 16:29 +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:34:06PM -0600, John Goerzen
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [... nonsense ...]
>>
>> Where did you see someone asking for inclusion of chi
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 08:03:42 +, Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Mike Hommey wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:06:13PM +, Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think that is the main issue here. I would like to believe that
>>> Debian is capable of showing
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 02:35:39 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:23 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:08:59 -0600, Joe Wreschnig
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>> > However, pornography causes significant legal problems in the US,
>> >
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:44:22AM -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "lewd exhibition of the genitals"
genitals: A sex organ, or primary sexual characteristic, narrowly
defined, is any of those parts of the body (which are not always bodily
organs according to the strict definiti
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:32:18PM +, Will Newton wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 21:35, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> > Right. We should not have games like quake, doom, or
> > nethack,. since they promoite murder and mayhem and eating of
> > corpses.
>
> So far so sarcastic. IMO if it ca
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 10:04:15PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I think that the best solution to many of the worlds problems would be to
> > provide really cheap laptops and good net access (including satellite net
> > access). The idea is
* Ron Johnson
| > Nor all the violent games. No killing of hordes of orcs. orcs
| > were once elves, you know.
|
| Are there any such FPS' in Debian? nethack is there, but the
| violence is imagined, not in your face.
lxdoom is in main. quake2 and -data are in contrib.
--
Tollef Fog He
* Helen Faulkner
| Pornography is widely regarded as being demeaning and insulting to women.
- A lot of people don't think the cartoon is pornography.
- If you think it is pr0n then I think it would be nice if you rather
provided some other pictures. A sheared sheep or a tree losing its
le
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On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:45:25AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 07:53:41 +0100, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:
>
> > Quoting Fernanda Giroleti Weiden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >> Hi all, I read all the thread and I
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On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:36:56AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 01:54 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 07:57:56PM +0100, Milan P. Stanic wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 06:17:37PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 02 December 2004 10.36, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 10:04:15PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > In Europe, cheap printing led to [...] a
> > sudden huge broadening in thought [...]
> >
> > In China, the result of the very same technology was the exact
> > opposite;
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On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:04:06PM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
wrote:
> On Thursday 02 December 2004 10.36, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 10:04:15PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>
> > > In Europe, cheap printing l
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 11:47:47PM +, Will Newton wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 22:15, Andrew Suffield wrote:
>
> > Anybody who can't obtain porn using only the tools provided on a
> > Debian CD is a total moron. You might as well complain that the
> > internet is bad, just because it's pr
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:07:45AM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> but people should never be criticised or even discriminated for their
> skin color, origin, gender, ...
Gender is a choice. You just offended a whole bunch of transsexuals.
If you're going to be a patronising hippie, at least get it
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:03:42AM +, Helen Faulkner wrote:
> Yes, you are being absurd. Since you are presumably not understanding the
> point, let me explain more clearly:
>
> Pornography is widely regarded as being demeaning and insulting to women.
Is this among people who are associated
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:15:16AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:50:08PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> > Yes, hotbabe is sexist (at least in it's current incarnation - if it
> > included a male theme then it would only be sexually offensive to
> > some)
>
> Anyone who f
* Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041202 08:15]:
> As already written in -women, this is the point which saddens me the
> most in this thread. I'm really disappointed by seeing most
> contributors just not realize why this package, as proposed, is likely
> to hurt the feelings of several wom
Alexander Wirt wrote:
Hi guys,
I found some time to set up a rss feed for the dwn, try:
http://people.debian.org/~formorer/dwn/dwd.rss
Great work.
But your link has a typo. Try this one:
http://people.debian.org/~formorer/dwn/dwn.rss
--
Peter Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Op wo, 01-12-2004 te 19:34 -0600, schreef John Goerzen:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > And we have no time to set up i judgement over content --
> > there is a clear criteria
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:19:48PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:06:18 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:30:24PM -0200, Everton da Silva Marques wrote:
> >> It's VERY oppressive to force hot-babe out of Debian because of
> >> pe
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:13:51PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:34:34 +0100, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > I do not like to go to prison in Iran or may be killed because I
> > have such application on one of my Desktops.
>
> The solution is to chan
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 03:36:50PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:06:13PM +, Helen Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I think that is the main issue here. I would like to believe that Debian
> > is capable of showing more respect for other people than including
On Thursday 02 December 2004 07:53, Christian Perrier wrote:
>
> The package is currently sexist, in my opinion. I just hope that
> saying this loud enough will make the maintainers change their
> mind. If it does not, well the result will be another sexist thing in
> free software.
>
LOL, the pack
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:29:33AM -0500, Sean Finney wrote:
> Package name: dbconfig-common
> Version : 0.7
> Upstream Author : sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL :
> http://people.debian.org/~seanius/policy/dbconfig-common.html
> License : BSD
> Des
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 06:18:35PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:01:06AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> >> Then, Disk 1 (which is very full-featured
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: libvcp-dest-svk-perl
Version : 0.28
* URL :
http://svn.clkao.org/svnweb/member/browse/clkao/VCP-Dest-svk/
* License : Artistic
Description : perl VCP::Dest::svk - svk destination driver for VCP
This driver a
Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:13:25AM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 01:36, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:23:21 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 17:55, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > >> And how do we find who we are aliena
Peter Hoffmann wrote:
Alexander Wirt wrote:
Hi guys,
I found some time to set up a rss feed for the dwn, try:
http://people.debian.org/~formorer/dwn/dwd.rss
Great work.
But your link has a typo. Try this one:
http://people.debian.org/~formorer/dwn/dwn.rss
Args... You are of course right :).
Much to
hi paul,
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 12:09:38AM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote:
> _Sweeet!_ What's the timeframe on seeing this? And any chance
> of it making Sarge?
honestly, i think i'd rather not see it go into sarge, at least while
it's still half-finished and possibly buggy. of course i reserve
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:30:48AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:34:06 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
Hi all,
Em Qui, 2004-12-02 Ãs 07:46, Tollef Fog Heen escreveu:
> * Helen Faulkner
>
> | Pornography is widely regarded as being demeaning and insulting to women.
>
> - A lot of people don't think the cartoon is pornography.
A lot of men don't think the cartoon is pornography.
>
> - If you th
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:32:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:03:59 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > You are quite right. We cannot fight all battles for everyone.
>
> > Let's make an operating system.
>
> And stop trying to censor data and
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 03:05:53AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > But the nudy cartoons would, especially in the hand of a minor.
>
> As far as I know, we are not selling to minors. There are
Then you are extremely out of touch.
I believe we have minors as developers. I was a minor wh
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:48:09AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Who gets to decide for each case? Usually it is the person who
The ftpmasters, for starters.
> does the work who makes the decision -- the packager, in this
> case. The only way to override that is call in the tech ctte -
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:28:20PM -0200, Fernanda Giroleti Weiden wrote:
> "It is also the type of discussion that deterred me
> from becoming involved in Debian for some time."
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-women/2004/12/msg00011.html
Indeed, and in addition to the powerful legal argument
On Thursday 02 December 2004 04:01 am, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 02:40:47 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> > John was taking Manoj's reasoning to the limit.
>
> Yup. Arguing by the extremes, while intriguing to some, is
> extremely jejune.
>
> manoj
> --
> "I H
Em Qui, 2004-12-02 Ãs 05:45, Manoj Srivastava escreveu:
> >> First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on
> >> Debian in which you have pictures of nude women is VERY agressive
> >> to the most women. Yes, it's agressive to me.
>
> > As already written in -women, this is the poi
* John Goerzen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:28:20PM -0200, Fernanda Giroleti Weiden wrote:
> > "It is also the type of discussion that deterred me
> > from becoming involved in Debian for some time."
> >
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-women/2004/12/msg00011.html
>
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:54:12AM -0500, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > If our goal is to advance the cause of a Free operating system, then why
> > should we be including, in our OPERATING SYSTEM, images that serve no
> > useful purpose, and instead alienate millions or billions of people
>
> I agree
Am 2004-12-02 08:44:34, schrieb David Weinehall:
> Really, she's 13, and you think it'd do any difference whatsoever to
> expose her to a pixelled image of a nude woman?! Sheesh. Either
> you've been shielding her completely (no TV, no advertisments,
> no magazines, no Internet), or you need a r
On 02-Dec-04, 08:28 (CST), John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't forget that people can sue us -- and force us to mount a costly
> defence -- even if the law is on our side.
They can do this no matter what we do. You may recently have heard of a
company named "SCO".
I personally find h
Ron Johnson, on 2004-12-02, 02:35, you wrote:
> Ok, let's look at case law:
Yeah, non-us take two, now! Since US law does not affect other countries
(at least until now, thank God) let's put such stuff into non-us. This server
(I'd be happy to sponsor hardware and bandwith) could then be blocked
Ron Johnson, on 2004-12-02, 02:13, you wrote:
> Are there any such FPS' in Debian? nethack is there, but the
> violence is imagined, not in your face.
Now what is worse? Think about it.
Joerg
--
Joerg "joergland" Wendland | http://www.wendlandnet.de/joerg/
GPG: 51CF8417 FP: 79C0 7671 AFC7 31
On 02-Dec-04, 02:13 (CST), Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Encourage? No. But when he gets old enough to be interested in
> girls, and especially naked girls, he's going to do it on his own.
So you're abdicating your responsibility as a parent to teach your child
how to be safe and san
On 02-Dec-04, 02:23 (CST), Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No. Everywhere (or just about everywhere) in the US, it is illegal
> to give porn to a minor.
If hot-babe is porn, then so is pretty much any issue of Cosmopolitan,
quite a few photography magazines, and about every third issue
Maciej Dems, on 2004-12-02, 00:39, you wrote:
> It solves only one-small-package-problem, not the more general issue.
So what are the common moral values of 1100 plus Debian Developers from
all over the world?
> My suggestion (though I am not a DD) is to create the archive simmilar to
> non-us,
On 02-Dec-04, 02:35 (CST), Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Note the "lewd exhibition of the genitals".
Note the word "genitals". Now look again at the cartoon in hot-babe.
Steve
--
Steve Greenland
The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating
system and
Christian Perrier, on 2004-12-02, 07:53, you wrote:
> As already written in -women, this is the point which saddens me the
> most in this thread. I'm really disappointed by seeing most
> contributors just not realize why this package, as proposed, is likely
> to hurt the feelings of several women (
On 02-Dec-04, 03:47 (CST), Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How would a bug report about 'this packages offends me because of
> $SOME_REASON' be handled?' about say vi?
I would think "what a nimrod" and close the bug.
Well, unless $SOME_REASON was "it ate my file when I entered the '
On 01-Dec-04, 15:49 (CST), Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is different from the Bible - if you find the bible offensive you
> don't have to install it.
"If you find hot-babe offensive, you don't have to install it."
> If you don't want your kids to install nude pictures, they mig
Am 2004-12-02 16:28:34, schrieb Arne Götje (?):
> On Thursday 02 December 2004 16:21, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > "anything that promotes free speech" is pretty vague, but, for
> > example, the PRC might not allow crypto s/w. Thus, maybe non-US
> > may need to be renamed non-PRC?
>
> They do a
On 02-Dec-04, 08:28 (CST), Fernanda Giroleti Weiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Em Qui, 2004-12-02 ??s 07:46, Tollef Fog Heen escreveu:
> > * Helen Faulkner
> >
> > | Pornography is widely regarded as being demeaning and insulting to women.
> >
> > - A lot of people don't think th
Am 2004-12-02 15:54:16, schrieb Joerg Wendland:
> Maybe we should add some more fields to our Packages files. Something
> like:
>
> Package: hot-babe
> German-Min-Age: 16
> Suitable-For-US-Kids: no
> Offensive-For-$RELIGION: yes
> [...]
Then 'apt-get' works like GOOGLE with content filters for e
Hello Hamish,
Am 2004-12-02 23:44:21, schrieb Hamish Moffatt:
> Including this package would seem to ultimately reduce our freedom
> to distribute the Debian OS (ie, to minors, as well as possibly
> to some parts of the world). I can't see how that is desirable.
I have a full Debian-Mirror at ho
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:03:18AM -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Indeed, and this is also why Manoj's vi/KDE argument is not relevant.
>
> vi serves a useful purpose for an operating system.
>
> Porn/nudes/whatever don't.
What about the bible, then ?
Mike
Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> [snip]
>> >> With cumulative patches you run into the problem that you need a new
>> >> cummulative patch for every day that contains most of what the
>> >> previous one did. That realy quickly becomes a space issue.
>> >
>>
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:54:06 -0200, Fernanda Giroleti Weiden <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> said:
> Em Qui, 2004-12-02 às 05:45, Manoj Srivastava escreveu:
>> >> First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on
>> >> Debian in which you have pictures of nude women is VERY
>> >> agressive to
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 23:38:29 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:19:48PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:06:18 +1100, Hamish Moffatt
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:30:24PM -0200, Everton da Silva Marques
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:28:20PM -0200, Fernanda Giroleti Weiden <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Em Qui, 2004-12-02 às 07:46, Tollef Fog Heen escreveu:
> > * Helen Faulkner
> >
> > | Pornography is widely regarded as being demeaning and insulting to women.
> >
> > - A lot of people
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:24:34 +0100, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> * Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041202 08:15]:
>> As already written in -women, this is the point which saddens me
>> the most in this thread. I'm really disappointed by seeing most
>> contributors just not real
Am 2004-12-02 02:44:58, schrieb Andrew M.A. Cater:
> I stand by this one :) If you look at the history books: Frederick
> Barbarossa had a multi-cultural court in Sicily with Christian, Islamic
> and Jewish scholars around. Arabic Spain had no particular problem with
> Jews or Christians.
>
>
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:28:23 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:30:48AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:34:06 -0600, John Goerzen
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 01:04:50AM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:03:18AM -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Indeed, and this is also why Manoj's vi/KDE argument is not relevant.
> >
> > vi serves a useful purpose for an operating system.
> >
> > Porn/nu
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Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * John Goerzen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:28:20PM -0200, Fernanda Giroleti Weiden wrote:
>> > "It is also the type of discussion that deterred me
>> > from becoming involved in
hey folks,
in the past year or so i've been spending a fair amount of time with
ldap. a while back, the thought occurred to me, why not put
the list of available packages in ldap?
so.. i did that. i found if you put a timestamp with the package on
its way way into the ldap tree, you could then
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 03:08:20AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> people. fortunes-off likewise. And the bible is insulting, with its
> presumption of godliness of false gods, is offensive to anyone not of
> the judea-christian-islamic bent of mind.
Krishna is Jesus, dumbass.
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:31:43 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:32:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:03:59 -0600, John Goerzen
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>> > You are quite right. We cannot fight all battles for everyone.
>>
hi alex,
* Alexander Wirt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-12-02 13:54]:
> Hi guys,
> I found some time to set up a rss feed for the dwn, try:
> http://people.debian.org/~formorer/dwn/dwd.rss
>
> Have fun
thanks, i like it.
regards nico
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:18:16 +0100, David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> While being all for that series of pictures (nature is beautiful), I
> find the package pretty meaningless anyway, so I don't see the point
> of including it in Debian in the first place. I do, however, see
> some rel
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:38:10 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 03:05:53AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> > But the nudy cartoons would, especially in the hand of a minor.
>>
>> As far as I know, we are not selling to minors. There are
> Then you are extre
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