* Helen Faulkner | Pornography is widely regarded as being demeaning and insulting to women.
- A lot of people don't think the cartoon is pornography. - If you think it is pr0n then I think it would be nice if you rather provided some other pictures. A sheared sheep or a tree losing its leaves have been suggested. Joe Drew (iirc) provided an offer, valid two months as of a couple of hours ago that he'd make the program themeable if somebody provided graphics. If you actually _do_ something about the graphics, you are helping. Just saying «this shouldn't be packaged because it objectifies women» doesn't change the world. | KDE is not similarly demeaning to Gnome users. It does not objectify | them, pressure them to meet unrealistic standards, encourage others to | regard them as existing only for the pleasure of KDE users. Etc. Does the cartoon in hot-babe pressure you to meet unrealistic standards and encourage you to only be for the pleasure of hot-babe users? I wasn't actually able to find any decent-looking similar images of a man (there's a limit to how much anime porn I'm willing to look through to prove a point..), but if somebody were to make similar images of a man with less and less clothes, I would just find it silly. In the same way I find the current images silly. I am not saying I don't believe you, I am just surprised that you seem to feel objectified and pressured by a silly little cartoon. -- Tollef Fog Heen ,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `-