I used to have a small crack ( about 4 inches ) along the aft part of the
hull-keel joint . Every spring I grinded it a little, filled with epoxy/silica
. Every layup the crack showed up again.
2 years ago I replaced the standard West System epoxy with their g/Flex
product, mixed with silica .
Deks Olje ( http://www.deksolje.com/ ) . You can decide to use only the number
1 ( it is a saturation oil that can be immerged ), and if you want a
varnish-like finish you add number 2 .
It is an old Norwegian product that lasts ( already 15 years inside the cabin
). I did all the exterior last
Yes, I did it 2-3 years ago on my Edson 335 , no specific issues except to make
sure the roller bearings and chain links grease have no chance to contaminate
the brake pad lining. I think the big issue was putting the cotter pin . make
sure you have 1 ( or better 2 ) layers of rags under the s
Yes,
I used it also this year to temporarily fix a leak on a chainplate, also on my
hatch , it was leaking from a crack around a screw that fix the acrylic. No
leaks so far ( and it poured hard a few times ).
A good fix for 1-2 seasons..
Sylvain
C&C27 MkIII
Fr
My original tank is also Moenl. What I do every spring is to remove some of the
gas in the bottom ( abour 1 liter ). Sometimes half of it is water sometimes it
is only gas. I does remove some sludge evary time ( I use a brass tube with an
outboard bulb to extract on a glass jar.
Anyway, I have
Good point, I was wondering if the topic was about pressured or non-pressured
alcool stove..
I use an Origo 2 burners stove ( non pressurized ), always used methyl hydrate
( much like the old gas line anti-freeze, before injected engines ). Good
performance and not too expensive ( a gallon cost
Actually there is a fairly complete test of a C&C33 mkII in their September
issue ( 5 pages, many pictures ). The boat's name is Sea Dancer.
At the end of the article there's an Editor's note: "This review is an updated
and expanded version of one previously published"
SylvainC&C27 MkIII
This is what I did. strip the antifouling ( Interlux 299 ), cleaned again and
again with Interlux 202 ( and acetone), then applied West epoxy, and later on 5
layers of Interprotect ( because I did the whole bottom with Interprotect.That
was in 1997 and still like it was 18 years ago.
And antifo
I replaced mine 2 years ago ( a real pain...), I don't remember the bedding to
be a problem, I always use an Olfa-type cutter to cut the seal. The issue was
more with access and the 18 screws that were frozen, I had to use my impact to
break them loose ( the kind you smash with a hammer ).Lost 3
I also use the Castrol Grand Prix motorcycle oil in my A-4 direct-drive ( the
10-20w40 flavour ).I think it is SG-CD API spec ( SG has no fuel
economy/slippery additives, so it's safe to use on those Paragon transmissions )
SylvainC&C27MkIII
From: Michael Brown via CnC-List
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I also used ( pure ) vinegar to clean my teck.
For the varnish on the gelcoat, I would use Interlux 299E , was good to remove
antifouling without harm to the gelcoat ( but smallest is a quart )
Sylvain
C&C27MkIII
From: Ron Ricci via CnC-List
To: 'Bev Parslow'
Hi,
I have a Natty dodger ( and bimini ) that I bought from Genco a couple of years
ago, installed it myself with the help of the installation sheet that came with
it . I also bought the aft-welded handrail and side rails ( basically stainless
handles ). Very nice to have something to hold on wh
One thing to remember is that most boat audio systems are 4 ohms and it is
better to use speakers with same impedance ( 8 ohm will take too much juice ).
Sometimes you only discover it after everything is installed :-)
Sylvain
C&C27MkIII
From: Joel Aronson v
Hi, There are several anti-skip tapes usually in boat stores, the best in my
opinion being the Treadmaster for stairs ( with sticking back ).Or maybe the
cheapest route is the skateboard "grip tape" but this is probably much harder
on shoe soles for sure :-)
SylvainC&C27 MkIII
From: And
Interesting challenge :-)
Having used it before for a small crack near my keel that reappeared every year
I suggest you use G/Flex, it fixed my problem 4 years ago ( never cracked again
). It has more elasticity than regular epoxy, has a 30 minutes working time ,
can be mixed with all West fil
Hi, If there are no cracks maybe you can passivate it so rust won't come
back.
SylvainC&C27MkIII
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To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Cc: Aaron Rouhi
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Forestay Stem Fitting / Chainplate Replacement
Hi,
I had mine redone , first in Jatoba , very nice appearance but very very hard (
must be cut with cobalt blade ), and while sanding it fell from 3-4 feet on the
concrete floor, it splitted as a result so I went with IPE ( IPÉ in french ),
pretty much teck-like but instead of turning grey it
For the anti-skid, Treadmaster make small panels specifically for stairs (
several colors ), or you can put anti-skid for skate boards ( quite agressive
but it lasts! )
I prefer the treadmaster, they are pre-glued.
SylvainC&C27MkIII
From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list
Right.. any A4 with the Paragon transmission ( so with a reverse band like a
motorcycle wet clutch ) should use a "SG" classification , which means it does
not have the anti-friction additives. Straight 30 oil is also good.
On modern oils the motorcycle JASO MA label has same standard .Moyer als
Hi, Those are different, Atomic ( and most motorcycles ) share same oil for
engine and transmission. ATF type A is the standard automatic transmission
fluid, ATF type F is for Ford transmissions, so stick to ATF Type A fluid.Many
manual transmissions/differentials also requires Hypoid oil ( gra
Maybe the speakers are 8 ohms and the radio output is 4 ohms ( or vice-versa) ?
Sylvain
C&C 27
Envoyé de mon iPhone
> Le 3 juil. 2017 à 07:31, Dave S via CnC-List a écrit :
>
> Sorry bout the accidental early send...
>
> So, I did replace Windstar's 1980's Blaupunkt car cassette player that
u happen tohave any pictures?
Sean
C&C 27 MKIII
LYNX
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
wrote:
Hi, you may also want to take a look at Lewmar, their #1 model is fine on my 27
( up to 36 feet supposedly), it runs on Torlon bearings an requires no
drilling. P
This discussion is interesting because it is like the sailing cloth dilemma,
there more you learn about the different options the more confused you are
:-)Several sailing hardware manufacturers offer 2-3 lines of products, with
Harken having a tendency to offer race-oriented products..If you go
cockpit lockers on either side no problem? Would you happen tohave any pictures?
Sean
C&C 27 MKIII
LYNX
On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
wrote:
Hi, you may also want to take a look at Lewmar, their #1 model is fine on my 27
( up to 36 feet supposedly), it run
Same for me. Used to have a 3 inches crack on the back of the keel joint and
filled it with epoxy every spring, then I used G/Flex and this was 5 years ago,
never had to fix it since.
Sylvain
C&C27 mkIII
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> Le 21 juil. 2017 à 11:27, Mike Macdonald via CnC-List
> a écri
Hi,I think our ( C&C ) struts came from Buck Algonquin, at least tehy seem to
manufacture every model I've seen on C&C's : Struts On Hydrasearch
Recreational-Buck Algonquin
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Browse Struts in the Hydrasearch Recreational-Buck Algonqu
Hi,
I read many, and teh Gougeon brothers manuals. By far I would recommend " The
fiberglass boat repair manual " by Allan H Vaitses , excellent knowledge with
real life experience and very objective in the subjects covered. He built
boats, fixed other's mistakes and is a pleasure to read fro
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Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255
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From: Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
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Cc: Sylvain Laplante
Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2018 10:57 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Structural glass work
Hi,
I read many, and teh Gougeon brothers
uite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255
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From: Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
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Cc: Sylvain Laplante
Sent: Tue, Jul 24, 2018 10:57 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Structural glass work
Hi,
I read many, and teh Gougeon brothers manuals. By far
I don't know if the 30 is like the 27, but when the thanks was leaking I made
one of Plywood-epoxy and used all the fittings from the previous tank ( Proto
Tank ), The tough part is to make it fit the unequal sides, I made a model from
cardboard first.
That was in 1998 and it is still ok.
Sylva
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wrote:
I would not suggest a wooden fuel tank and I suspect the insurance company
would not either!
Joe
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Sylvain
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Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 12:44 PM
To: cnc-
On my 27 MkIII I installed the Lewmar size 1, it uses the existing holes.
Happy with it ( but I customized it for single handling )
Sylvain
C&C27 MkIII
On Saturday, October 13, 2018, 9:14:28 AM EDT, Chris Graham via CnC-List
wrote:
I need to first replace the main traveler system. A
Also, on my Edson 335 the Plastimo with its base fitted right in. I had a
Gemini since 1975 on my 27.
Sylvain
Envoyé de mon iPhone
> Le 11 déc. 2016 à 09:02, Dennis C. via CnC-List a
> écrit :
>
> It's probably a Morch pedestal. Look for a stylized "M" on the shaft nut.
> Also, I believe
Hi, you may also want to take a look at Lewmar, their #1 model is fine on my 27
( up to 36 feet supposedly), it runs on Torlon bearings an requires no
drilling. Price was 400 can$ 3 years ago.
Sylvain
C&C 27 mkIII
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> Le 2 mai 2017 à 07:58, Joel Aronson via CnC-List a
> é
Next time look at eBay/Amazon, usually you can get new batteries for much less
than the price at hw stores..
Sylvain
C&C 27 mkIII
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> Le 23 mai 2017 à 14:42, robert via CnC-List a écrit :
>
> Dead LI battery out of garbage and will go to recycleand some guy that
> fix
Personally I would'nt paint teck ( especially Burma Teak :-) ) . I now use
Deks Olje for both inside and outside, much easier to apply/maintain than
varnish, more flexible ( but not like Cetol ), it's a very old product that
is now sold by Owatrol..
Inside you can expect it to last 20 years
I am surprized to read that, on mine ( 1975 ) the tube is aluminum and the
fitting to connect to the rubber post looks like cast aluminum, held in place
by a 1/2 in bolt. I taped an open 1/2 in key to the tube so I can tighten it
appropriately in a short time.Tried it once, it fits well and mak
Yes, I flagged it as Spam since I was not expecting anything special from you
:-)
On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 1:56:06 PM EDT, Richard Bush via CnC-List
wrote:
List Friends; I have learned that my email has been hacked; it is sending
messages to everyone saying there is a drop box
Yes, looking at the picture ( on Paul's lever with round ball at the end ) it
is Edson, same thing on my 1975 , you need the long lever for Atomic 4
transmissions. 1-2 years ago you could event get only the "Bakelite" black
handle that was ending it. When not in use one can just pull it ( held
Hi, I installed my restrainer same time I installed my Harken Mark IV furler,
according to documentation I needed one and it was my feeling as well ( looking
at the angle I had on my 27 ).This is what Haren had to say about it :
To be used if angle between halyard and headstay is less than 7°.
In french we say "faire d'une pierre deux coups" which translates to "getting
two hits with one shot"
Can mean many things...Or nothing
SylvainC&C27MkIII
On Thursday, April 9, 2020, 3:36:59 PM EDT, David Knecht via CnC-List
wrote:
Off topic, but I hate the phrase “killing two birds w
This is"was my bible to do gelcoat/epoxy repairs. The author fixed many issues
on new/used boats, he built some as well. He always the pros & cons of a topic
( paint vs applying gelcoat, woven roving, epoxy, polyester, delamination ) His
style is easy to read, entertaining and motivates one to
Hi,Not sure if they are the same as in my 1975 27 but if so you can order the
kit from Holland Marine Product or Southshore yacht
There's the grey for the outside and a high density foam gasket for the inside
, you don't need to remove the frame.
Sylvain C&C27MkIII
On Sunday, May 17, 2020
I have an old Johnson 3.3 ( 1995 made in Japan ) and the only issue I've had
with it was the main jet getting clogged ( very small jet, blocks easily ),
Once I started puttinf Fule stabilizer in the gaz the problem went away ( took
as little à 3-4 weeks without use to get clogged ).
An easy tes
Humm... :-)
>From their website ( "its time" actually is 1931 ) :
For its time the original engine was very advanced, a good proportion of the
original engines are still running and parts are generally still available to
keep them that way - a truly unique engine, a magnificent piece of British
Hi, If the soleonid moves but motor does not turn it may well be the
solenoid itself, assuming all high amperage connexions are clean and tight .
When this happens and a screwdriver between the 2 + posts make it work then it
is the connexion between the 2 posts inside the solenoid.
beware of
Thank you, this the exact model I have on my 75 !
SylvainC&C27 MkIII
On Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 9:52:35 AM EDT, Stu via CnC-List
wrote:
Here is the link to the Edson Engineering Bulletin:
http://cncphotoalbum.com/technical/EB%20236%20ENGINE%20CONTROL%20727%20and%20728.pdf
Enjoy Stu___
Hi,There's this one in Montreal ( just a 5 hours drive ) :-)Looks like he
knew what he was doing ( he detailed everything he did, we see a good
criss-cross pattern ) and he also rebuilt one for his boat.It's on MarketPlace
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Yes, if a bit structural ( like I did, replaced Barient 6 bolts with Lewmar
EVO 5 bolts ), put tape underneat, fill with clear/liquid epoxy w/slow hardener
so the balsa absorb some, then suck epoxy from the hole and then fill holes
with a mix of epoxy/silica ). Pretty strong.If not structural
Mine too, and I had the vinyl window replaced with Strataglass, more durable,
rigid ( no distorsion ) and there is a sunbrella panel that can be unrolled to
close it.Was made by Genco
SylvainC&C27 MkIII
On Wednesday, September 8, 2021, 12:32:55 PM EDT, Matthew via CnC-List
wrote:
Th
I did not follow all the thread but here ( Montreal , Quebec with my 1975 C&C
on lake Champlain ) I am insured with Royal Alliance ( now RSA Group ) through
my insurance broker. No new survey for 10 years ( I have the option : with
survey for real value of my boat or no survey for market value
very good to deal with.
Used to have a three pay system where you were billed three times per year but
they stopped doing that./ this was the only reason we moved on to Intact
Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
From: Sylvain Laplante via CnC-List
Sent: September 30
Personally I've always thought that I would use West System fix for that (
pages 56-57 )
https://www.westsystem.com/wp-content/uploads/Fiberglass-Manual-2015.pdf
Sylvain Laplante,C&C27 MkIII
On Saturday, November 20, 2021, 06:09:44 PM EST, John Read via CnC-List
wrote:
After 40 years
I have the Natty Dodger on my 27, much like the one on their picture ( on top
) but lower, bought some of their option ( handhold on the side et double rear
frame so people feel secure and no greasy hands on the Sunbrella. It can fold
forward but I leave it up all the time and usually remove t
That would be great, I've ordered several motorcycle parts from themalong the
years and always a good experience..
On Friday, February 18, 2022, 05:42:21 PM EST, Peter Fell via CnC-List
wrote:
Hmm ... I wonder if that will result in a Canadian Defender presence?
On Fri., Feb. 18, 202
I replaced mine ( on my 27 ) with Lewmar EVO , chromed bronze, 7-year
warranty and you can do the maintenance without tools.
They are on sale now at Defender..SylvainC&C27 MkIII
On Monday, March 28, 2022, 05:47:20 PM EDT, Dean McNeill via CnC-List
wrote:
Probably asked a lot before,
Good project :-)
I did that on mine ( 27 MkIII ), re-used all the existing fittings ( it came
with a Prototank from factory ).
Put 5 layers of epoxy " green on green " , make thick fillets on every joint
and don't forget to apply same treatment for the baffles so nothing will rot.
SylvainC&C27
Atomic 4 are really reliable and need very little to run ( good spark,
compression and almost any gas ).A sudden stop will typically have one of two
causes, water in fuel or ignition coil ( overheating or short-circuit ).
For water try adding 8 ounces of gas line antifreeze ( methyl hydrate av
Hi, If you use automotive oil ( anything newer than API SH ) there are too
many additives in order to save friction, htis is bad for a wet clutch ( in
motorcycles since the plates run in oil bath ) and also on the reverse band on
the Atomic transmission. Recommended oil is either motorcycle o
It's classification is API SP .. As I said look for API SF or older ( for our
engines ). Several antifriction were added after SH/SF and in addition to that,
they reduced the famous "ZDDP" additive which is so important for the last
level protection to prevent oil breakdown. That ZDDP can clog
+ for Genco also.Did everything remotely ( I am in Montreal ), I took
measurements ( they already knew 27's ), sent me a few samples for Sunbrella.
The Bimini had Strataglass window, the base that bolts to the toe rail has
leather so not to scratch the anodizing ( had the choice toe rail or pul
I am on lake Champlain NY , I've had VC-17 for maybe 20 years, only do
touch-ups where it is needed ( always the front part of the rubber ), a single
can last for 3-4 years.
SylvainC&C27
On Tuesday, September 8, 2020, 4:31:05 PM EDT, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List
wrote:
Everyone:
For
Hello,I think the Admin is still David Weatherston, owner of Towser, a 27
MkIV, TorontoOtherwise this was the info for subscribers:
Contact the C&C 27 Association
President Larry Bayer
Niagara-on-the-Lake, ON
(905) 687-0935 (General inquiries)
Membership Secretary Jim Wente,
4 Storey Cr.,
Actually it's a Mark III , seems to be in good shape for this year but several
things to replace ( foams, cushions, sails ). Also the draft is 1 foot more
than listed. I still love mine ( I already replaced everything on it over the
years! ).
SylvainC&C27 MkIII
On Saturday, March 27, 2021
Was it completely overhauled ( camshaft removed ) ? looks like an issue with
spark at the wrong time ( if there is spark at the plugs, not only the coil
).Make sure the distributor is correctly installed for the firing order (
1-4-3-2 I think ).At TDC on the crank/flywheel and both valves clos
Ues I noticed..Thanks,SylvainC&C27 MkIII
On Wednesday, April 21, 2021, 10:28:13 AM EDT, Pablo via CnC-List
wrote:
Hello,
Please, note that the "C&C 27 Association Website" has not been shut
down and the forum has been revived.
Kind regards
Pablo
Thanks to all of the subscribers
They also have one without grease cup , slightly more expensive but saves you
to dive into the sail compartment before every long motor run
On Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 2:47:59 AM EDT, james taylor via CnC-List
wrote:
Moyer Marine has an improved version of the Oberdorfer that is even
be
Maybe check in your manuals, I still have the Waterlift muffler for my A4,
the manual said that there is no need to winterize the muffler since there's
around 1-2 inches of water in it. That waterlift is a rather large steel can (
14 in. ).SylvainC&C27 MkIII
On Wednesday, November 20, 20
Yes I did it twice during my 27 years of ownership, first time because the
diaphragm was starting to leak, the second time because it was 15 years old and
I already had a spare kit. Not really hard but you have to work methodically on
a clean area and take note of the assembly before dismantlin
A good thing because the new carbs have 5 screws for the top instead of 4,
much less chances of the top leaking..
On Wednesday, June 4, 2025 at 09:06:24 AM EDT, Della Barba, Joe via
CnC-List wrote:
I just ordered a new carb. Once they start corroding you can end up cleaning
them ove
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