Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-04-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Maybe you can get these to fit! http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=301557838185&alt=web Josh Tom, Depending on the height, I'm pretty sure I can get 4 Trojan T-105s and one Trojan Group 24 under the starboard settee. I've had three very large 12Vs in there before, an I think there's en

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
ical / plumbing permits for your home? Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet C&C 27 MkIII From: <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>Robert Boyer via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 10:53 AM To: <mailto:primeinter...@gmail.com>ed vanderkruk ; <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Charlie via CnC-List
Walt, I get the same flyer, what are you suggesting we buy from Hamilton from their sale? thx C -From: "Wally Bryant via CnC-List" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Sent: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 22:55:42 + Subject: Re: Stu

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
If I had to do it again, and if you're traveling internationally, I'd spring the bucks for an isolation transformer. I didn't get one at the time as they were around 400 bucks, but I've spent 5X that replacing blown electrical stuff caused by 3rd world marina electrical work. Wal you wrote:

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
other $90 (Yandina direct). > > > > > > *From:* Jake Brodersen via CnC-List > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 2:46 AM > > *To:* 'Rick Brass' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft > > > > Rick, > >

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
day, April 02, 2015 12:25 PM To: Peter Fell; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft Would the non fail-safe GI's pass a survey (or insurance claim for electrical injury)? Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Apr 2, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Peter Fell via CnC-L

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
sday, April 02, 2015 10:53 AM To: ed vanderkruk ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft I believe that ABYC only governs the practice of boat builders and boat repair contractors. I don't believe there is any requirement that our old boats have to be brou

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
... and it is rated as ignition protected. > > Optional capacitor available for another $90 (Yandina direct). > > > *From:* Jake Brodersen via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 2:46 AM > *To:* 'Rick Brass' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-Li

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
I believe that ABYC only governs the practice of boat builders and boat repair contractors. I don't believe there is any requirement that our old boats have to be brought up to the current ABYC standards (which are always being improved). A survey done on your boat may recommend that something

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread ed vanderkruk via CnC-List
For ABYC compliance it must be failsafe or with integral / external status monitoring for a failure. All DIY solutions would also not comply to the 'general requirements' of the GI ABYC section. Now whether this is highlighted during survey and any liabilities but noncompliance ... I leave to oth

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
dina direct) ... and it is rated as ignition protected. > > Optional capacitor available for another $90 (Yandina direct). > > > From: Jake Brodersen via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 2:46 AM > To: 'Rick Brass' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject:

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
x27; ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft Rick, I built my own GI with instructions and parts from Yandina. It was a quick and easy project, although the installation under the cockpit was a bit of a challenge. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistres

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
gt; Jake > > > > *Jake Brodersen* > > *"Midnight Mistress"* > > *C&C 35 Mk-III* > > *Hampton VA* > > > > > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Rick > Brass via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-02 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 9:17 PM To: 'Josh Muckley'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft Excellent summary, Josh. I recall the breakover voltage as .6 not .7, but the effect

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Now GIs and anodes)

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Rick, I bought welding machine rectifier diodes from mouser. I don't remember the price. The wire and connectors and box cost more than the diodes. As an alternative to GIs you can just turn off all the DC loads and disconnect the shore power. Plug in periodically to charge if needed or get a

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-01 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
m] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 8:23 PM To: C&C List; David Knecht Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft If you are primarily on a mooring (or more specifically disconnected from shore power) then you are fine. The galvanic isolator

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-04-01 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
If you are primarily on a mooring (or more specifically disconnected from shore power) then you are fine. The galvanic isolators prevent galvanic currents from being conducted along the common ground wire of mutiple boats at a marina. Since the zincs are usually electically on the ground wire of

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-30 Thread Richard N. Bush via CnC-List
Mon, Mar 30, 2015 12:06 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay) This is a good write-up too, I think: http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=137615. Also it describes the basic function and differences between

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-30 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
of the banks, it cycles charging to try to bring the low bank up to a point where it can accept a constant charge. From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 6:28 AM To: Richard N. Bush ; C&C List Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay) Try this to s

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-30 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
chard > 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; > > Richard N. Bush > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > -Original Message- > From: Rick Brass via CnC-List > To: 'Peter Fell' ; cnc-list > S

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-30 Thread Richard N. Bush via CnC-List
o: 'Peter Fell' ; cnc-list Sent: Mon, Mar 30, 2015 8:38 am Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay) In a 12 volt setup, 10.5v of differential between the fully charged/charging bank (12.6 to 14.4v) and the depleted bank would probably mean that the depleted

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-30 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Peter Fell via CnC-List Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 12:01 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay) The graph indicates it’s the other way round ... when the voltage difference is high, the

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-29 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
of the puzzle missing in the manual. Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet C&C 27 MkIII From: Knowles Rich Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 5:28 PM To: Peter Fell ; cnc-list Cnc-List Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay) Hmmm… When the voltage difference between a charging so

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-29 Thread Knowles Rich via CnC-List
the voltage difference increases. From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:26 AM To: C&C List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> ; Rich Knowles <mailto:r...@sailpower.ca> Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Sc

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-29 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Hi Joe- Please educate me. If I have a galvanic isolator, I don’t know it. I am on a mooring most of the time, so probably don’t need one, but I periodically am plugged in at a dock, so is this important to have? Am I correct that my Promariner charger or inverter does not include this functi

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-29 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
; > Joe Della Barba > > j...@dellabarba.com > > Coquina > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe > Della Barba via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:30 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List N

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-29 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
C-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joe Della Barba via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 11:30 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft It has been a while since solar panels needed load dumps - modern controllers are much much better. Tha

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-29 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
gh voltage in the very cold weather we had even on the cold setting. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 9

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-29 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Edd, You will probably need a "dump" load for the solar. They are just resistive loads. You can get 12v heater pads that you can attach to the water tanks or heater. You could also install a block heater in the engine. Most block heaters are designed to be plugged into a wall outlet but for a

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-29 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:10 PM To: Peter Fell; C&C List Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-28 Thread ed vanderkruk via CnC-List
Josh, The charger/alternator will start the charging at the higher voltage (14.4 ) and only begins to ramp it down when the acceptance of the batteries reduces the current requirements according to the programmed profile. With a voltmeter you will see it start at that voltage almost without regard

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-28 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
ltage difference is low, the amperage is high and it > decreases as the voltage difference increases. > *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List > *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:26 AM > *To:* C&C List ; Rich Knowles > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay) > &

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-28 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
decreases as the voltage difference increases. From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 10:26 AM To: C&C List ; Rich Knowles Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay) Rich, Great explanation but don't the other combiners turn off once the

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-28 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Rich, Great explanation but don't the other combiners turn off once the starting battery is greater than or equals to the house? As was pointed out to me the echo-charge is simply a voltage follower with a limit of 14.4v. At least one relay style combiner I've seem has an adjustable high voltage

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-28 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
OK Rich, I guess that explains things for me, you had too many batteries onboard Indigo, otherwise she would have been much faster, right Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Knowles Rich via CnC-List < cnc-l

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-28 Thread Knowles Rich via CnC-List
I didn’t realize I’d start such a lengthy discussion. Sorry for the late reply. Work… I like the EchoCharge unit for the following reasons: When you combine batteries for charging using an automatically actuated combiner, or by manual switching, all the batteries combined will receive the same

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Tom, I can fit over 600A/hrs on Sea Hawk under the stbd settee "wings". 4 T105s in the aft 2 in the front & a starting battery. When I bought her there were 2 4D batteries (~200AH each) in the aft and 2 Autozone deep cycle (~105AH each) in the fwd. Urgency led me to replace the aft pair with 3

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-27 Thread davidrisch75 via CnC-List
: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List Date:03/27/2015 2:39 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Tom Buscaglia , cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay) Tom, I have 6 agm's on their side under the floor boards of my 44. It might work for your 40. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury Por

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-27 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
Tom, I have 6 agm's on their side under the floor boards of my 44. It might work for your 40. Fred Hazzard S/V Fury Portland Or On Mar 27, 2015 10:18 AM, "Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Edd > > What 6v batteries are you planning on using, with will be the total A

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
27;d have to remember to switch banks after > running the engine. > > > *From:* Josh Muckley > *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 3:35 AM > *To:* Peter Fell ; C&C List > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft > > > The echo-charger is great for mixed chem

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-27 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Tom, Depending on the height, I’m pretty sure I can get 4 Trojan T-105s and one Trojan Group 24 under the starboard settee. I’ve had three very large 12Vs in there before, an I think there’s enough space. 4 t-105s in a 12V configuration (6v at 225aH each) should give me 12v at 450aH. All the

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-27 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
there is any benefit or not to using the “reserve” as a conventional “start” but I’d have to remember to switch banks after running the engine. From: Josh Muckley Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 3:35 AM To: Peter Fell ; C&C List Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft The

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft (Edd Schillay)

2015-03-27 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Edd What 6v batteries are you planning on using, with will be the total AH, and where will you house them. I'll be damned if I can find enough space to add two more batteries on Alera, Enterprise's sistership. thx Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-27 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Actually, I just boarded a plane with my family, heading for someplace tropical. So I haven't even looked at it. But if Rich says it's okay, I'm sure it's fine -- he knows his stuff! :^) -- Fred Gotta go into "airplane" mode now... > On Mar 27, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-Lis

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-27 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Uh oh — no word from Fred Street. He may be too polite to say the “amateur hack” stuff . . . . All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log > On

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-27 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
> used at the same time as the charger (solar alongside / underway during > summer months and charger only during the winter when I'm running cabin > heater / dehumidifier anyway). > > I don' think, by the way, that the Echo-charger can be turned 'off'? > > Pe

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-26 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
heater / dehumidifier anyway). I don’ think, by the way, that the Echo-charger can be turned ‘off’? Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet C&C 27 MkIII From: Knowles Rich via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:19 PM To: Edd Schillay ; cnc-list Cnc-List Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Dia

Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

2015-03-26 Thread Knowles Rich via CnC-List
No major problems that I can see. I’m not a big fan of battery combiners for charging purposes and would prefer to see a XANTREX EchoCharge unit in its place. Check out http://xantrex.com/power-products/power-accessories/auxiliary-battery-charger.aspx Rich Knowles Nanaimo BC. INDIGO LF38 For s