Excellent summary, Josh. 

 

I recall the breakover voltage as .6 not .7, but the effect is the same. 1.2
or 1.4 volts of breakover from two diodes in series will stop the galvanic
current.

 

And for the frugal among us, and I think that covers most all sailors with
boats under about 50 feet, the price of a 1000 volt, 50 amp diode at Radio
Shack is about $2.99. Add a small project box, some wire, and a couple of
stud terminals, and you've got a homemade galvanic isolator for about
$20-25.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 8:23 PM
To: C&C List; David Knecht
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

 

If you are primarily on a mooring (or more specifically disconnected from
shore power) then you are fine.  The galvanic isolators prevent galvanic
currents from being conducted along the common ground wire of mutiple boats
at a marina.  Since the zincs are usually electically on the ground wire of
each boat then your zincs will be sacrificed to other boats at a lower
galvanic potential (less/no zincs).  Periodic plugging in will not
significantly deplete your zincs.  Always on shorepower charge or rather
simply always keeping the shore power cable plugged in.  Even turning the
breaker off is not enough because the ground doesn't get disconnected.  No
your promariner charger does not provide any protection.  The problem comes
from the AC ground being tied to the boat's common ground/bonding sysyem (as
required).

Forward biased diodes normally have a breakover voltage of about 0.7v.
Galvanic currents run about 1.0v...IIRC.  so taking 2 diodes and placing
them in a forward and reversed bias orientation will result in a circuit
which cunducts freely in both directions at greater than 0.7v but will not
conduct at all less than 0.7v.  If you had a lightning strike or a fault
which depended on the ground then the diodes would properly conduct and
transmit the energy to the ground on the marina's electrical system.  During
all other times, the diodes are not reaching thier breakover potential so
they are not conducting the galvanic potential to (or from) other people's
boats.

But wait didn't I say the galvanic potential could reach 1.0v and the
breakover was only 0.7v?  Wouldn't that be enough to forward bias the diode?
Yes it would be so most GIs are made with 2 forward biased diodes in series
and 2 reverse biased diodes in series.  This brings the breakover voltage
close to 1.4v which is above the 0.7v galvanic potential.  The other thing
to consider is that the diodes have to be rated at a minimum for the forward
bias current and voltage which you could expect from a fault.  So a 30a 120v
shore power connection would be diodes of equal or greater size.  

Normal diodes will fail open when their ratings are exceeded.  There are
reports of lightning strikes taking out GIs and then the boat has no ground
protection.  Modern commercial GIs are desined to fail closed and are
marketed as fail safe.  So if you have an older model or don't know what
type you have it is a good idea to test it regularly to ensure that it still
has continuity.

Again without a frequent connection via a shore power cable, there is no
reason to even have a GI.

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/galvanic_isolator

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD 

On Mar 29, 2015 4:22 PM, "David Knecht via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Hi Joe- Please educate me.  If I have a galvanic isolator, I don't know it.
I am on a mooring most of the time, so probably don't need one, but I
periodically am plugged in at a dock, so is this important to have?  Am I
correct that my Promariner charger or inverter does not include this
function as well?  Thanks- Dave

 

On Mar 29, 2015, at 1:22 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:





You also left a galvanic isolator out of the diagram. 

See http://promariner.com/products/galvanic-isolation/prosafefs-series/

These keep you from sharing your zinc out to the entire marina ;)

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> 

Coquina

 

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Professor of Molecular and Cell Biology

Core Microscopy Facility Director

University of Connecticut 

91 N. Eagleville Rd.

Storrs, CT 06269

860-486-2200 <tel:860-486-2200> 

 


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