Peter I take back everything I stated about the echo-charge.  For some
reason I was under the impression that it was the equivalent of a DC-DC
charger and could be programmed/selected for different battery
chemistries.  After re-reading the owners manual I can not understand any
advantage/difference compared to an ACR and am even more eager for Rich to
tell us why he so strongly prefers the echo.

As for using the reserve as a start, the idea would be to run new cables
from the reserve battery to the starter.  The 1-ALL-2 switch would always
stay on 1.  The auxiliary loads would come off the house battery (#1) and
the alternator would only be connected to the house battery.  The
echo-charge/ACR provides charge current to the starting battery when the
house bank is full...ish (> ~12.7v).  When you go to start, the starting
battery is the only one providing power since the echo-charge opened the
connection when the charger/alternator was disconnected/shutdown.

Remember this is all so that you don't ever have to switch the 1-ALL-2
switch.  Even more so that there isn't any temptation to do it while the
engine is running.

Josh
On Mar 27, 2015 1:38 PM, "Peter Fell via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

>   The ProSport doesn't have the capability of running multiple charging
> profiles for different banks. But I think the basic difference here is what
> type of AGM battery you are using. The charger has a Flooded / AGM setting,
> using the same profile / rates for both and then a "HP AGM" setting, which
> one would use on batteries such as Optima Sprial Wound, Odyssey, etc. It
> also has a Gel setting.
>
> I think it's pretty easy to identify the difference in batteries when
> shopping. Example of a Group 24 AGM ... the standard marine "dual purpose"
> AGM might run $200. A HP or a "thin plate pure lead" AGM would typically
> run over $300.
>
> But yes, I do have the capability of running the charger (and all other
> charging sources) only to the house bank and then using an echo-charger or
> other device. The echo charger will follow the charging profile of the
> charger that is connected but will limit the amperage passed to the 2nd
> bank depending on the voltage difference sensed between the two banks ...
> which isn't a huge feature as I understand a battery will consume only the
> amps it needs.
>
> It's 15 amp maximum for the echo-charger. Also voltage passed is limited
> to 14.4.
>
> I don't know if there is any benefit or not to using the "reserve" as a
> conventional "start" .... but I'd have to remember to switch banks after
> running the engine.
>
>
>  *From:* Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 3:35 AM
> *To:* Peter Fell <prf...@gmail.com> ; C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft
>
>
> The echo-charger is great for mixed chemistry battery setups such as your
> planning.  AGM for start and Flooded for house.  Each type of battery
> requires different charge profiles.  With the same chemisty the ACR allows
> for a higher current charge to switched bank.  The echos are limited to
> 20Amps...IIRC.  I too am eager to hear why Rich is partial to the echo.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
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