Hey Rich

Could you elaborate on your thoughts re combiners / charge relays vs. 
echo-chargers? I’m looking at options right now myself. 

For Edd, is there any benefit to having a solar controller that is dual-bank? 
I’m not sure which one you are proposing (have?) but I’m wondering if the 
‘programming’ of the distribution of charge to each bank will conflict with the 
voltage sensing and resulting operation of the ACR (or perhaps think of it the 
other way round).

For me I’m puzzling over a similar situation. My setup is proposed to be a 
house bank of 2 x Group 27 flooded in parallel with a small (U1?) AGM ‘start’ 
(I’m only starting an Atomic Four) ... but set it up so that the ‘start’ is 
actually a ‘reserve’ battery ... I’ll use the house bank for starting and house 
duties and connect my alternator to the house bank. So my 1-2-Both switch 
becomes a battery ‘use’ switch ... normally just used between Off and 1. But my 
battery charger is a ProMariner ProSport 20amp 3-bank charger, that distributes 
charge to each bank depending on SOC (so for example, connected to 3 batteries 
it could provide 2amps, 2amps and 16amps) and also has multi-charging stages. 
It also wants to have one set of leads connected to at most one battery ... 
even if they are in a bank. So in my setup, 2 sets of leads to the house, one 
to each battery, and one set to the reserve. ProMariner tech support says that 
a combiner or ACR will not cause any issues but I’m not so sure this would be 
the case.  Blue Sea recommends setting up to turn off the ACR when multiple 
bank chargers / multi-stage chargers are used. So I probably will install a 
switch on the ground, like Edd plans, and/or a relay to trigger on energizing 
the AC circuit to the battery charger and break the ground to turn off the Blue 
Sea ACR. I’ve also been looking at a Yandina Combiner 100 ... it has similar 
capability to be turned off (although with it, it has a ground connection but a 
separate ‘remote’ connection that is used to trigger the combiner off by 
closing to ground). Now I may in the future put in a solar panel. I actually 
have a good controller with single bank connection ... would certainly work 
through the combiner or ACR but probably wouldn’t be used at the same time as 
the charger (solar alongside / underway during summer months and charger only 
during the winter when I’m running cabin heater / dehumidifier anyway). 

I don’ think, by the way, that the Echo-charger can be turned ‘off’?

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C&C 27 MkIII


From: Knowles Rich via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:19 PM
To: Edd Schillay ; cnc-list Cnc-List 
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft

No major problems that I can see. I’m not a big fan of battery combiners for 
charging purposes and would prefer to see a XANTREX EchoCharge unit in its 
place. 

Check out 
http://xantrex.com/power-products/power-accessories/auxiliary-battery-charger.aspx


Rich Knowles
Nanaimo BC.
INDIGO LF38
For sale and buried in snow in Halifax, NS.



On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:30, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Listers, 

Thanks for all of the advice regarding rewiring the power systems on the 
Enterprise. 

Here is link to my draft setup: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/EnterpriseWiring-Draft.pdf
 

Very crude I know and probably could be considered a mess by any respectful 
wiring diagram standards. Still, I would appreciate listers input or just to 
say “Edd, you got it all wrong. You idiot. Get off our C&C List, you amateur 
hack.”

Thanks again. This list is the most valuable part of owning my C&C. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log


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