We have owned Corvette #149 for over 25 years. They are a great little boat
for a couple. The 3'-6" draught with the board up opens up a lot of
cruising options. However, the full keel does reduce manoeverability and
builds up some weather helm on a reach. Only the fore and side decks are
cored, so
*Trillium IV*, Corvette #149 was built in 1970, so is now 53 years old and
still going strong. ;-)
Rob
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 10:21 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Coquina is 50 this year. Who else do we have at or past the half-century
> mark?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Jo
The July/August issue of Good Old Boat has an article about resurrecting a
Harpoon 4.6.
Rob
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:03 AM JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> If you can find them, also designed by C&C
>
> Waterrat 8' 56-1 ( First production fiberglass sailboa
Just as a final point of clarification, I just emailed Barry Carroll who
tells me that no 44s were built in Rhode Island. Just Landfalls, including
the Landfall 48. Barry ran that plant before establishing his own Carroll
Marine.
Rob
On Thu., Jul. 7, 2022, 6:33 a.m. Dan via CnC-List,
wrote:
> T
Are we sure that any 44 were actually built in Rhode Island? The Rhode
Island plant closed in 1985 the same year the 44 came out. It was my
impression that the Rhode Island plant was focussing on the Landfall model
at this time. I left C&C in 1985, but was involved in the analysis of the
mast failu
IOR discussion but
> it seems the 1970 43s and 1976 42s are all IOR with no CCA influence.
>
>
>
> Martin DeYoung
>
> Calypso
>
> 1971 C&C 43
>
> Port Ludlow/Seattle
>
>
>
> *From: *Robert Mazza via CnC-List
> *Sent: *Thursday, March 17, 2022 12:0
d I look forward to seeing you sometime this summer in Port
> Dover.
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 1:04 PM Matthew via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Rob:
>
>
>
> I may have asked you previously, but were you inv
were you involved
> with the 42 Custom. Six were produced in or about 1976. I believe mine
> was the last.
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Mazza via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2022 11:22 AM
> *To:* Stus-List
> *Cc:* Robert Mazz
Oh, and don't forget that both Horst Manzel and Brion Jorgenson started
with Erich at Metro Marine and stayed with him right through the building
of the Custom Shop. We lost Horst a few years ago, but Brion is still going
strong in a well deserved retirement.
Rob
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 11:21 AM
The building on Wallace Road, which was diagonally opposite the later
building on Speers Road, became the C&C Sales Office and Showroom for a
while before the short lived showroom was built as part of the office
complex in Port Credit. The Speers Road building housed a valve plant
before it was acq
I would be surprised if a hull that size, built by C&C was not fully cored.
The construction drawing is probably on file at the Marine Museum of the
Great Lakes at Kingston if you wanted to know for sure as well as find out
the details of core thickness. C&C installed cored well, so I would not
ant
Interesting conversation, and thank you for asking for my input. Apologies
for a late reply though, I've been up to my eyebrows, on behalf of the
Marine Museum, in organizing the upcoming Canadian Sailing Hall of Fame
Inductions on October 3rd in Kingston.
I started my career in the marine industr
Many thanks Bill and JohnKelly, and everyone who has supported the Marine
Museum and the Cuthbertson and C&C Collections.
Not only is the goal to digitize all the Cuthbertson and C&C drawings, and
make them more easily accessible on the website, but also to prepare for
the arrive of *Red Jacket* t
The same thing happened to Trillium many years ago. Ended up paying a yard
to clean out the tank, which solved the problem. Then a few years later
replaced the tank completely when we rebuilt the engine. When removing
the tank I put my finger through the bottom! At that point the tank was 40
years
t; On Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 9:12 AM Richard Bush, wrote:
>>>
>>> Rob, you mentioned that Red Jacket is delayed in arriving...can you give
>>> any more information about the status of her arrival and when you expect it
>>> might happen? Thanks
>>>
>>>
hat Red Jacket is delayed in arriving...can you give
> any more information about the status of her arrival and when you expect it
> might happen? Thanks
>
> Richard
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Robert Mazza via CnC-List
> To: Stus-List
> Cc: Robert Mazza
> Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2021 11:39 am
> Subject: Stus-List Re: George Harding Cuthbertson's Binder #5 Slide
JohnKelly,
Magnificent! There are photos and drawings in this collection that I have
never seen before. The 1961 preliminary drawing for Paul Phelan raises all
sorts of "what if" questions. Clipper bow, indeed. The 1963 preliminary for
Kroger also raises possibility questions. I'm particularly int
Richard,
I've been giving Rob some time to answer, since he was more involved in the
conceptual side of the design than I was. However, with regard to the
longevity of the C&C product, one conversation I had with Butch Ulmer and
Howie McMichael several years ago over drinks at the Larchmount Yacht
On a ralated subject, has anyone tinted
white Kiwi Grip to better match the off- white gelcoat surrounding it?
Rob
On Sun, May 23, 2021, 11:12 AM Dave S via CnC-List,
wrote:
> Same question for hull chips - small batch for touch up of my 33-2
> For the deck -
> I had a gallonof gel coat tinted
Dick Steffan at Mirage commissioned C&C to design the Mirage 24 as Mirage's
first product. The Mirage 24 was influenced by the C&C 25, with both being
probably overseen by Henri Adriaanse. Very shortly after that C&C decided
not to continue designing for other builders, which did not make Dick very
Thanks David. Will do!
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 10:20 AM David Risch via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> For you Rob? Absolutely. Just give me a heads up at to your ETA.
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Mazza via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2021 9:55 AM
you hang on to them until then? Asking a lot I know.
Rob
On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 9:34 AM David Risch via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Sorry Marion, MA
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Mazza via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2021 8:02 AM
> *To:* Stus
David,
Where are you located?
Rob
On Wed, May 12, 2021, 7:07 AM David Risch via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Any takers? Maybe a bit costly to ship because of the weight (10 lbs).
> Pics if interested.
>
>
>
> David F. Risch
>
> Managing Director
>
> Great Benefits USA
>
> 401
I just checked my Spam and found about 30 messages from the list. This is a
new development. I too use gmail.
Rob
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 10:56 AM Bob Mann via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I'm using comcast email and I get about 2-3 emails from the list in spam
> folder every day.
Still in discussion, but yes, mid to late summer of 2022, or possibly
early 2023. We need to define the parameters of the rendezvous and
coordinate with the different entities.
To clarify, we are talking about the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at
Kingston, Ontario, with the possible involvemen
Yes, Kingston, Ontario.
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 8:23 PM Paul Vint via CnC-List,
wrote:
> Which "Kingston" are we talking about?
>
> I live right near one of the "Kingston"s, but mine is in Ontario. I
> suspect that';s not what you're talking about.
>
> Paul Vint
> Resolute 33 Mk I
>
>
> On Sat, Jan
Thanks for sharing this Neil.
A very sad loss.
The video interview of George was recorded during the C&C Yachts Reunion
and Conference held at the Royal Hamilton Yacht Club back in 2012 . I had
the honour of organizing this event on behalf of the Marine Museum of the
Great Lakes at Kingston. See
Thanks Dennis,
Yes, lots of elements to put together to make this the successful event it
is destined to be. The primary question is who would organize it? I can
coordinate the Marine Museum's involvement, but we will also need someone
or a group to represent the C&C community. There used to be an
This is a very intriguing idea. This rendezvous would best be arranged in
conjunction with Kingston Yacht Club and Confederation Basin Marina to
handle that number of boats. Fall of 2022 would be worth considering. Let
me touch basis with KYC and the Marine Museum. Red Jacket will be there and
the
Apologies to all. In the second sentence of this long email I referred to
George Cuthbertson turning over C&C design responsibilities to Bob Ball.
That should, of course, be *Rob* Ball. I don't know why I did not catch
that error sooner!
Rob Mazza
On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 12:27 PM Robert Mazza wro
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> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Mazza via CnC-List
> To: Stus-List ; JohnKelly Cuthbertson <
> j...@motiondesignslimited.com>
> Cc: Robert Mazza
> Sent: Sat, Jan 2, 2021 12:27 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C drawings at Kings
Hi Everyone,
Perhaps now is a good time for a quick update on the Marine Museum of the
Great Lakes at Kingston and the drawing collections. As JohnKelly and
others have been discussing, the museum holds the drawing collections of
George Cuthbertson, from the early drawings of his youth to 1973 whe
Actually, Red Jacket was white. ;-)
Red Jacket was recently donated to the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at
Kingston by the late Peter Milligan. Delivery has been delayed until next
year due to the current Covid 19 situation. The Museum, of course, holds
the entire George Cuthbertson and C&C Y
There was an *Invictus* that came out of the Custom Shop in the mid to late
'70s. I remember a large decal of an eagle that had to be applied to the
transom. Rob Ball might remember it better than I. C&C 40? Exceptionally
beautiful boat though.
Rob Mazza
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 12:23 PM Peter Co
73, sailing a 50 year old C&C Corvette Trillium IV.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020, 10:12 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Like randy and joe at 56 I am older than persistence who just turned 33
>
>
>
> I am older than all the boats we have had. 1970s Chinnook 13, 1970s
> Paces
Kurt,
Do you know what her hull number is, and whether Morning Star was her
original name? To my knowledge, only three or four 48s were built. I sailed
the Trans Superior on one. I also believe the 48 was the last design for
C&C by George Cuthbertson, before he took on the presidency and handed
d
Hi Ian,
I'm a bit late coming to this discussion, but all the advice already given
is quite accurate. I pulled and rebuilt my A4 in *Trillium* back in 2010,
and chronicled the whole experience in an article in Good Old Boat in the
January/February 2011 issue. I think you can get back issues on lin
I'm not sure why nobody has yet answered this, but if the boat was built by
the C&C Production facility in Niagara-on-the-Lake the spar was most likely
built "in house" by the C&C spar shop.
Rob Mazza
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 8:22 PM Barbara L. Hickson via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
C&C 29 Half Tonner?
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:24 PM Paul Baker via CnC-List, <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Not mine, but always sad to see an old tonne-something racer end up
> abandoned. Doesn't look in bad condition on the whole.
>
> https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/NOTICE-OF-VESSEL
Ken,
This is really quite amazing. Thanks for doing this.
Rob
On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 6:51 AM Ken Heaton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Good morning. Grab a coffee, sit back, relax, and read a little about the
> storied C&C's of the past.
>
> This week's instalment, the legenda
Johnny,
I think I've seen her drawings in the C&C archives at the Marine Museum of
the Great Lakes at Kingston. If you contact Doug Cowie, Marine Museum
Manager, through their website, you might be able to get copies of them.
Rob Mazza
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 10:40 PM J Roger via CnC-List,
wrot
Thanks Don,
I was Project Manager in the design office for the Mega. The Mega would
make a very interesting chapter all of its own in any history of C&C Yachts
that is ever written.
My family and I also spent a couple of very happy summers on Erich
Bruckmann's Mega *Put-Put* cruising Georgian Bay
All,
I sent this out previously, but it was blocked because the attached photo
exceeded the maximum allowed megabytes, so I'm sending it again without the
photo.
Rob Mazza
On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Robert Mazza wrote:
> Yes, this is undoubtedly the aluminium prototype for the Mega. It wa
engineering parameters we were using to design and build fast boats. That
> knowledge helped me sell a lot of C&C's over my years with the company. I
> always enjoy reading your perspectives on design, the industry and C&C
> Yachts.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hank
>
>
>
> its sail bag was made in 1982).
>
> Best Regards,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C&C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
> --
> *From: *"Robert Mazza via CnC-List"
> *To: *"C&C Mailing List"
> *Cc: *"Robert Mazza" , "Martin DeYoung&
Violeta,
One of the photos from Martin's link is quite historic (they are all
historic, of course, but one more than the others). See attached. It shows
Blair Vedder (owner), Erich Bruckmann (builder), Mark Ellis (C&C custom
sales), and Ed Botterell (Hood sialimaker). I wish I had a higher
resolut
Ryan,
The first thing to do is remove the track and determine the type of core in
the deck. If a C&C I expect it is balsa. If that is the case, then
determine if the core has decayed. That is, is it brown mush. If not, and
the core is still pristine, but has a high moisture content, you may be
bet
Hi Ron,
Thank you for reading Good Old Boat magazine. I've been working with Karen
and Jerry for over three years now and they are great people who put out a
great magazine. I encourage everyone to subscribe!
No, I don't follow all the treads, but this one did catch my eye. I notice
Stephen didn'
You also may need to adjust the clutch pressure. The Moyer Marine Rebuild
Manual explains how that is done in good detail. I will be doing the same
as soon as I receive the new gasket from Moyer Marine for the access cover
to the clutch and reversing gear assembly.
Rob Mazza
C&C Corvette Trillium
Actually, my recollection was that the Nutshell was an open dinghy not
unlike the old Flying Junior. It was used in the Niagara-on-the-Lake
Sailing Club Junior Club program and I believe was designed and built by
George Hinterhoeller prior to the creation of C&C Yachts.
Rob
On Fri, May 27, 2016 a
Steve,
The Crusader drawings would be in the C&C Archives at the Marine Museum of
the Great Lakes at Kingston, ON. See (http://www.marmuseum.ca/). Contact
the curator, Sandrena Raymond. The drawings would show the keel bolt sizes
and locations.
Rob
On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:15 AM, steve olive via
Thanks Richard,
Much appreciated. I doubt Wooden Boat will publish anything more on the
transition from Wood to Fiberglass with the establishment of C&C Yachts.
However, PROFESSIONAL BOATBUILDER has already tackled that to some extent
with Dan Spurr's articles on C&C as well as *Red Jacket*, as h
If I remember correctly, C&C used 7/16" balsa in the decks of their
production boats built in NOTL and Rhode Island. However, as mentioned
previously, always wise to confirm with a core sample taken with a small
hole saw. I would not recommend using low density Polyurethane core for any
structural
Hans-Erik,
You may also want to try contacting the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at
Kingston which holds the C&C Collection within its archives. The museum has
a vast collection of a large number of C&C drawings which may well
include the 32, If so, this would include the hull lines, sail plan,
Pete,
I've used an Allan Key in a drill chuck to do it, but a bent nails sounded
even more efficient.
What you are doing is entirely the right approach. All holes through balsa
or any other core should be "potted" with epoxy. Use the slow hardener
though, the fast hardener generates a lot of exot
Hi Rich,
Things are evolving with respect to the City of Kingston reaching out to
help the Marine Museum, even if the city does not directly acquire the
land. However, that motion has to go before Council on the 27th, I believe.
This link to TV coverage explains some of that, for those who are
int
Thanks Edd,
I'm glad to see a recommendation for "Good Old Boat" in the very first
reply! ;-)
Rob
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Joel,
>
> I’m finding Sailing World is now geared to the high-tech racers and PHRF
> racing has becom
r, Mile 596
>
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Mazza via CnC-List
> To: Harry Hallgring
> Cc: cnc-list
> Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 7:46 pm
> Su
e is
> a 1985 C&C Northeast 39 built in the Bruckman yard. Would you be able to
> point me in the right direction to get this rolling?
>
> Harry Hallgring
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrot
Hi Jim,
Thanks for letting everyone know about this. As you might know, I serve on
the Board of Trustees of the Marine Museum of the Great Lakes at Kingston,
and I was the co-curator of the New Age of Sail exhibit at the Museum last
year, one of the high points of which was inducting George Cuthbe
Skip,
A few of observations:
1. It is unlikely that the brown film under your deck is core related. In
my own C&C Corvette that film was emanating from the micro-balloon based
fairing compound that was used to fair the underside of the deck, since,
like your boat, the Corvette does not have a hea
The C&C 3/4 Ton was a standard C&C 33 hull but with a custom deck and
interior. They were built in the Custom shop in Oakville. I was crew on one
owned by the Long Island C&C dealer Bill Cook that raced in the 3/4 Ton
North Americans in New Orleans that year with Butch Ulmer, Bob Connell, and
Billy
Sam,
Which charter company would you recommend? I may be going in February.
Rob
On Nov 4, 2014 1:20 PM, "Sam Salter via CnC-List"
wrote:
> I've been going to the BVI’s in November for the last 6 years- I’m going
> on the 17th. - It rains most days for 5 mins ; winds are 15 - 20 knots
> guaran
urban myth?
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30-1
> STL
>
> --------
> On Sun, 11/2/14, Robert Mazza via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List WINDWARD PASSAGE
> To: "jimmy kelly" , "C&C Mailing List" &
Jimmy,
Ted Jones has a great article in the latest issue of Professional
Boatbuilder magazine on Alan Gurney entitled "Passage Maker", which quite
naturally talks about *Windward Passage *at length.
By the way, Guy Gurney is the noted marine photographer who lives in
Connecticut, whom I met sever
Hi Jimmy,
Good to talk with you again. You mentioned *Inferno II* being in the San
Francisco area. Do you know precisely where she is? We have been trying to
track her down.
I think most people remember that *Inferno II* debuted in the 1968 SORC
which was won overall by *Red Jacket*. However, *In
; Coquina C&C 35 MK I
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Robert
> Mazza via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, October 31, 2014 12:08 PM
> *To:* Dave Moore
> *Cc:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Planing/Surfing C&a
stinctive lines of a C&C 35 MK I. A few docks
> is a Landfall 38. It is amazing how many C&C's we see as we travel up and
> down the ICW each year. They are still the best looking boats on the water
> !
>
> Cheers from Queen Ann's Revenge,
>
> Hank
>
>
>
he
> mooring area I can see the distinctive lines of a C&C 35 MK I. A few docks
> is a Landfall 38. It is amazing how many C&C's we see as we travel up and
> down the ICW each year. They are still the best looking boats on the water
> !
>
> Cheers from Queen
; sailing characteristics.
>
> Cheers
>
> J
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Robert Mazza via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> The first six were built by Kurt Beister, on the East Frisian Islands in
>> northern Germany. Most li
The first six were built by Kurt Beister, on the East Frisian Islands in
northern Germany. Most likely designed by Henry Gruber, but modified for
North American requirements by Cuthbertson and Cassian with the addition of
a CCA type yawl rig and the modification of the ballast casting to add more
l
One of his best books was "And No Birds Sang", the story of his experience
fighting with the Hasty Ps of the Canadian Army in Italy in WWII. He landed
in Sicily and fought all the way up to Ortona, where he finally succumbed
to battle fatigue. It took him a long time to decide to write that book. I
Atkins and Hoyle are still in business and will refurbish and repair old
hatches. My brother just had his done recently. I'm sure you can Google
them. Eric Atkins has relocated the facility to Trenton, ON, just west of
Kingston.
On 2014-06-30 12:12 PM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List"
wrote:
> Does an
Also try Klacko Spars in Oakville, ON. Klacko's made a lot of the old C&C
masts and have access to a lot of the old extrusions. They have a website,
so can be contacted through that.
On 2014-06-26 1:04 PM, "Raymond Macklin via CnC-List"
wrote:
> Who was the Manufacturer of the 1985 - C&C 33-2 Mas
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