Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Stops

2014-04-10 Thread Lee Youngblood
Hi Bill, While I'm sure your local sailmaker can whip up something like that after seeing the video for maybe even $100, maybe you should ask, how many times do I hoist the spinnaker in 25-30 knots? That's rare, and even if some of the boats are flying spinnakers, its a crew decision. If y

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Kevin Driscoll
Unless you are going offshore, fix whatever is most important to your wife and kids first and then worry about her soft decks, etc. later. Getting them on board is the most important. If that means pressure water and a new head That what counts. (And I should take my own advice) KD C&C 30mkII

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Rick Brass
I have a 38 year old 38 mk1. Bought her 11 years ago for $33k, and have spent another 30 or so on remits, upgrades, added cabinets, added systems, etc. Plus, of course the normal year to year stuff like bottom jobs and replacement running rigging. Two days ago the Admiral and I were aboard a ne

Stus-List LandFall 38 rudder shaft

2014-04-10 Thread ssjohnson
Hi DanThe casing for my Rudderpost appears to be all plastic (molded fiberglas...). The only 'bearing' is the top ring that supports the huge nut on top of the postalong with a delrine (sp) washer between the nut and the collar in the cockpit floor. I have had my rudder out about 3 wi

Stus-List 29 Owners - might be interested

2014-04-10 Thread Stevan Plavsa
No affiliation, just looks like a decent deal if you need a main. Toronto. http://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-image.html?adId=552643762&image=0&enableSearchNavigationFlag=true Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http:/

Re: Stus-List PROMOTING THIS FORUM

2014-04-10 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I agree with keeping boat details in the sig. I think it's useful. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Chuck S wrote: > Jimmy, > Sorry, my autosignoff did not print. I agree the need for more list > members and keeping the list active. > > Chuck Scheaffer > 1990 C&

Re: Stus-List rod rigging versus wire replacement experiences please

2014-04-10 Thread Rick Brass
A couple of summers ago, while sailing in significant slop and 16 to 20 knot winds on Pamlico Sound, I heard a sound like a shot from a .22 and thought "Crap, something just broke!" The jump stay waving back and forth and banging into the mast certainly elevated the priority on the inspection I

Re: Stus-List rod vs wire

2014-04-10 Thread Jim Watts
Just to throw some fuel on the fire, Bob Perry says that all the Valiant 40's came with rod rigging, most still have the original, and he's never heard of a rig failure. I do think that a good rod installation is better than wire in a lot of ways, it just costs more. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 3

Re: Stus-List rod vs wire

2014-04-10 Thread Tim Goodyear
Jimmy, the coefficient of elasticity of 1 x 19 wire of the same area as rod is 110 vs 190+ (nearly twice as stiff). I get your point about hydraulically vs mechanically operated backstays, but not shrouds. What am I missing? Thanks, Tim On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Jimmy Kelly wrote: >

Re: Stus-List PROMOTING THIS FORUM

2014-04-10 Thread Chuck S
Jimmy, Sorry, my autosignoff did not print. I agree the need for more list members and keeping the list active. Chuck Scheaffer 1990 C&C 34R Resolute New Gretna, NJ - Original Message - From: "Chuck S" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:58:34 PM Subjec

Re: Stus-List PROMOTING THIS FORUM

2014-04-10 Thread Chuck S
Recruit away. The list works best with lots of different viewpoints. - Original Message - From: "Jimmy Kelly" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:54:04 PM Subject: Stus-List PROMOTING THIS FORUM this forum helps to enhance cnc designsas such shouldnt w

Stus-List PROMOTING THIS FORUM

2014-04-10 Thread Jimmy Kelly
this forum helps to enhance cnc designsas such shouldnt we all endeavor to get more participantsif everyone recruited one more active user could ad lot of valuealso a suggestion every user should sign off. with..yacht model, yacht year mfg,could add name or harbour if wished ...any neg

Re: Stus-List List Problems

2014-04-10 Thread Dennis C.
I switched from Yahoo to gmail several weeks ago. Finally got fed up with Yahoo. Each "upgrade" just made things worse. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Stu wrote: > I recently received an email from our hosting company that indicates: > > Yahoo in

Stus-List rod vs wire

2014-04-10 Thread Jimmy Kelly
rod weight vs wire weight is not significantwindage not any real difference ..real problem with rod ,needs ends reworked about every 10 years...back in late 70s ...cnc introduced rod on inshore design models, as a marketing strategy...after using it on custom larger offshore models..it did

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Joe You are 100% correct. Back in 2000 our friends bought a C&C 25-1 that had been repowered in 1981 with a OMC Zephyr sail drive. All the local experts said that mechanics did not want to work on them. When the lower unit became holed by galvanic corrosion we attempted to find a replacem

Re: Stus-List List Problems

2014-04-10 Thread Ken Heaton
I have been seeing some cnc-list emails in my Gmail spam box lately, always from Yahoo accounts. When I checked them they always looked like legitimate posts to the list. I was wondering what was going on. Ken H. On 10 April 2014 19:43, Stu wrote: > I recently received an email from our ho

Stus-List List Problems

2014-04-10 Thread Stu
I recently received an email from our hosting company that indicates: Yahoo initiated a terrible policy change to their mail servers recently that impacts every single mailing list software in use. If any Yahoo.com user posts to your list, they will cause those list members are using Hotmail, G

Re: Stus-List LF 38 anchor windlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Martin DeYoung
I too am impressed with Lewmar windlass designs. We installed a Lewmar Oceans 2 on Calypso in 1999. It has seen some heavy duty during summer cruises including anchoring between 30ft and 100ft depths with 90' of chain/300' rode and a 60lb CQR anchor. I run the engine when raising the anchor t

Re: Stus-List Rudder post grease fitting

2014-04-10 Thread Joel Aronson
Pete, If there is one, it is under the deck. On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:54 PM, kelly petew wrote: > I've never lubricated my rudder post. Where do I find the fitting?? > Is it well below deck, or should I pry up the synthetic ring on the > cockpit sole just above the rudder post, and look for

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Joe Della Barba
I am sure there is a chiropractor forum or list someplaceMight be a better place for this ;) Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 6:03 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-Lis

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread dwight
Thanks for the advice Jim, but I will make my own decisions and reserve the right on that.easy for you to say _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts Sent: April 10, 2014 6:55 PM To: 1 CnC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list de

Stus-List Rudder post grease fitting

2014-04-10 Thread kelly petew
I've never lubricated my rudder post. Where do I find the fitting?? Is it well below deck, or should I pry up the synthetic ring on the cockpit sole just above the rudder post, and look for it there? thanks, Pete W. C&C30 MKII Deltaville, VA _

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Jim Watts
Dwight, time to back off. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 10 April 2014 13:53, dwight wrote: > If you are smart like I think you are your smart brain will tell > you that you don't need one...weigh the risks, maybe a gentle massage would > be an option > > > -

Re: Stus-List LF 38 rudder post grease fitting (again)

2014-04-10 Thread Ken Heaton
The best waterproof grease I know of is Shell SRS 2000 or Shell SRS 2000 Extreme. I use it for my feathering prop (it is recommended by the manufacturer, J Prop). http://www.epc.shell.com/Docs/GPCDOC_local_TDS_1-30.pdf In my situation I am injecting it inside the housing of the prop using a greas

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Joe Della Barba
I totally agree. I would really hesitate to own an old boat with no active support community. Fixing anything unusual would be 50 times harder. It also holds true for the Atomic 4. Moyer Marine and Indigo do such a great job supporting these engines they are easier to maintain now than when they we

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Ken Heaton
To quote Steve: "I'll go one step further actually. - This list keeps the value of our boats up, I really believe that. C&C is still essentially a supported brand. When buyers are making purchasing decisions, knowing that there is a community of owners out there that are willing to help out is ver

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Rich Knowles
A note about plumbing: When I bought INDIGO, I found a piece of rubber hose joining the galley sink outlet to a through hull and ball valve assembly. I reached in to check the operation of the valve and, as I turned it, the valve rotated on the through hull and the rubber hose disintegrated com

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
I land firmly in the category of "not editing my signature". Apologize for any offense.  Not like I'm trying to draw any business off this list where people are scattered across the continent - with maybe a couple people within driving distance. (If throwin

Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Stops

2014-04-10 Thread Bill Coleman
Whoa, that is great, I had not seen those before! I'd like to see those up close, looks like the entire little bungee cord disappears - That is great, thanks Ken - This is a case of where environmentalists force us to be better people, and we get a better system in the deal - Does anyone nee

Re: Stus-List rod vs wire keeps value higher?

2014-04-10 Thread Tim Goodyear
Jimmy, I thought the benefit of rod was not so much on the adjustment, but on the reduced weight and windage, which would be beneficial on upwind and reaches, and to a lesser extent downwind, from less pitching moment (similar to weight in the ends of the boats). Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 (with rod rigg

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread dwight
If you are smart like I think you are your smart brain will tell you that you don't need one.weigh the risks, maybe a gentle massage would be an option _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: April 10, 2014 5:30 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.c

Re: Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread PME
Hi, I also agree. When checking the rate of flow from the hose put output water into a 5 gal bucket. The Yanmar 3QM30 manual states that the flow rate at 1400 rpm should be 800 l/hr or 3.5 gal/min. - Paul E. 1981 C&C 38 LF S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL On Apr 10, 2014, at 3:47 PM, cnc

Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Stops

2014-04-10 Thread Ken Heaton
For those who are interested, here are links to three short videos of North Sails' version. North calls them STOP TABS(tm), they recommend them for medium to large downwind sails. The system is virtually the same as UK's, perhaps a bit more refined as the tab retracts inside the luff tape when th

Re: Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Frederick G Street
The Paragon is not the v-drive, just the reversing gear; and I use straight 30 SAE oil in it, per the manual. I’ve posted the manual on my server — you can download it here: www.postaudio.net/webserver/Paragon_manual.pdf See page 5 for the recommended lube. I believe the separate v-drive want

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Joel Aronson
Bob, I suspect some of us just don't bother to edit our sig blocks. Being a C&C owner is enough to brag about! We know whose advise to trust, and it has no relationship to formal education or job title. You are correct that being "lawyers, chiropractors, professors, or garbage collectors" does

Re: Stus-List LF 38 anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Frank Woronkowicz
Dennis Thanks Lewmar had great product but IS 37 is much larger boat. V /R Frank Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2014, at 3:42 PM, "Dennis C." wrote: > > Frank, > > I just installed a Lewmar V-2 vertical windlass on an Island Packet 37 on the > bowsprit. Probably not similar to your install

Re: Stus-List Re;1970 C + C 31ft Corvette (Dan Grant)

2014-04-10 Thread Curtis
Robert Gallagher: *My C&C 30MK! was a pleasure to restore and you are right it is a joy to sail specially in a good breeze. light wind not so much. * *The boat cost my $2500. the refit cost around 12 grand. Well worth the boat. But i'm keeping her for 15 years or so otherwise* * I would not have

Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Robert Boyer
I completely agree with Joe on this issue! (Even though, I've just recently become more active on this list, I remember most of the same listers way back when this group was part of Sailnet.) I would like to add another aspect to Joe's list decorum: you should notice that Joe has never listed

Re: Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Frank Woronkowicz
Fred My engine is with paragon vdrive. On the gear is name plate to use hydraulic fluid. Dealer told me to use lube oil sae 30 so I use since 20 years. What fluid is in your gear ? V/R Frank Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2014, at 3:27 PM, Frederick G Street wrote: > > My 3QM30F will drive

Re: Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Frank Woronkowicz
Bob I think that I been on your boat several years ago looking for autopilot under the deck and made some pics. I will call you Thanks again V/R Frank Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 10, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Robert Boyer wrote: > > Frank: > > I have owned my LF38 for 27 years and have made a lot of

Re: Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread davidrisch75
When I first got the boat I installed a new temp sending unit. I gave the engine model number and off I went. There after It overheated matter what I replaced cleaned or checked. Turns out is was a salt water temp not fresh. And the engine was retrofitted with a fresh water heat exchanger.

Re: Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Josh Muckley
I have heard that engine coolant passages can get clogged or thermostat stuck. Did the over temp switch get changed when the hex was added? Did you check the switch for proper ops? IR point and shoot thermometers are cheap. I would shoot some temps to verify overtemp. Just my $0.02, Josh Muck

Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Robert Boyer
Frank: I have owned my LF38 for 27 years and have made a lot of upgrades to it over the years. Since we both live in Annapolis, we should get together and discuss our boats and upgrades. I have decided against installing a windlass (at least for now) because of several reasons. My cell phone

Re: Stus-List LF 38 anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Dennis C.
Frank, I just installed a Lewmar V-2 vertical windlass on an Island Packet 37 on the bowsprit. Probably not similar to your installation but just wanted to say I was impressed with the design and quality of the Lewmar windlass. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at

Re: Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Frederick G Street
My 3QM30F will drive the boat just fine; I’ll have to check prop size and pitch when (or if?) I can get up to the boat for the first time this season. This is through a Paragon reversing gear and (Kanzaki?) v-drive. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in

Re: Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Frank Woronkowicz
Fred it was done and checked everyting and I still do not feel comfortable. I replaced Sunrod HE , new goose neck elbow, install external gravity tank so water level is always fine and still do not feel comfortable. What is the recommended engine and propeller size ? Thanks Frank Sent from my

Re: Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Joel Aronson
I agree with Fred that a re-power is a very expensive solution to a relatively minor problem. The impeller and mixing elbow would be my first 2 suspects. Wally did a re-power and a windlass: http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/projlist.htm Joel 35/3 3GM30F Annapolis On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 3:01

Re: Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Dennis C.
There can be lots of simple reasons why an engine overheats. My Universal overheats if the belt is loose. Pull the hose from the mix elbow and see if you have good flow. If you do, maybe the elbow is clogged with soot. If you don't have good flow, work your way upstream until you find why. Den

Re: Stus-List LF 38 rudder post grease fitting (again)

2014-04-10 Thread Bill Coleman
Yes, I used that as well when I had a MaxProp, I think It came with it and worked fine. The Gori I have now is completely open, and that stuff washed right off. At least by the end of the season. Bill Coleman C&C 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich

Re: Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Frederick G Street
Frank — just so I understand: your 3QM is overheating? Does the engine run well otherwise? Before you go to all the trouble and expense of re-powering, find a really good diesel guy to look at your engine. I had a great guy do some work on my 3QM a few years back, and he told me the engines w

Re: Stus-List LF 38 rudder post grease fitting (again)

2014-04-10 Thread Rich Knowles
PYI recommends Lubriplate 130AA for MaxProps. I bought a case many years ago and it works fine. Rich > On Apr 10, 2014, at 14:43, "Bill Coleman" wrote: > > I wish you had posted this a month ago! > I just bought two different kinds of Lubriplate waterproof grease to lather > up my prop gears

Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Stops

2014-04-10 Thread Joel Aronson
North and other sailmakers are now selling various solutions for this "problem". I'm not looking forward to hoisting in a breeze without stops, but we do it often on the J30. In the meantime, I have 1,000 rubber bands on board for keeping plastic containers closed, and my Asym is on a furler. Jo

Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Stops

2014-04-10 Thread davidrisch75
On our 40 we launch our chute double-handed without stops. We stopped using stops racing years ago. Bit of a PIA for the benefit Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: "Hoyt, Mike" Date:04/10/2014 2:32 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.

Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Stops

2014-04-10 Thread Bill Coleman
Right you are Mike, I guess I am wrongly assuming everyone used bands. We do above 8 or 9 kts, and have to above 10 - 12 kts, so I just wasn't thinking. Just keep doing what you are doing. I would rather not have them hanging off my luffs also, but this seems to be the consensus. I am just go

Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Stops

2014-04-10 Thread Dennis C.
Bill, Are these specifically required or just to avoid having the yarn or rubber bands fall into the water and thus violate Rule 55? The sailing instructions for a race/regatta can modify Rule 55 requirements to allow bands or yarn which fall into the water. For the record, we never band our spi

Re: Stus-List Spinnaker Stops

2014-04-10 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Bill "has to have them this year or face dsq" Either I am missing something or you are referring to rubber banding being illegal because of the trash in the water rule. This rule does not stipulate that you have to have these stops it in fact says you cannot use rubber bands. We just lau

Stus-List Spinnaker Stops

2014-04-10 Thread Bill Coleman
I just sent this to Sailrite yesterday, and unfortunately they were unimpressed. &feature=youtu.be Everyone who races starting 2014 has to have them this year, or face disqualifica

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Richard N. Bush
Dan, please be sure to send updates, and photos, if possible of your progress! Thanks! Richard 1985 37 CB Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Dan Grant To: cnc-list Sent: Thu, Apr 10

Stus-List rod vs wire keeps value higher?

2014-04-10 Thread Jimmy Kelly
have found a number of buyers who will not purchase rod boats or will deduct cost of replacement to wire from purchase pricethis is prevelent on great lakes &also on west coastas to racing, wire can be just good as rod with right hydralics or mechanical devices...also we found with many

Stus-List Repower LF 38 and anchor wondlass?

2014-04-10 Thread Frank Woronkowicz
My boat has Yanmar 3QM30 with original added fresh water circ. jabsco pump and Sunrod HEx. overheating on the Chesapeake Bay. I think to replace engine and propeller. Please let me know if any LF owner already did this work and what is approx cost. The second question is windllas type and ins

Stus-List Re;1970 C + C 31ft Corvette (Dan Grant)

2014-04-10 Thread Robert Gallagher
Hi, Old boats are worth the effort if it's a labor of love and you won't get stressed or take on so much you can't sail more than work on her. As to the cored deck being wet, is there physical damage (spongy or de-laminated) or did the moisture meter readings just come in high? It might just be

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Martin DeYoung
Dan, I am underway with similar repairs right now on our 1971 C&C 43. I agree with the answers already posted on this type of project being worth the time and money on a 1970 C&C, especially if you enjoy restoring a classic with long term family connections. C&C's of the early 70's were built

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Stevan Plavsa
You're already ahead of the curve. Most of us paid to buy our boats and still had to do many of the projects on your list. I wouldn't focus on the "niceties" until she's sailing. Forget about the plumbing for example until the rest of the stuff is sorted out. She'll sail just fine without a working

Re: Stus-List LF 38 rudder post grease fitting (again)

2014-04-10 Thread Bill Coleman
I wish you had posted this a month ago! I just bought two different kinds of Lubriplate waterproof grease to lather up my prop gears (which are exposed) So far none have survived the summer. This looks like it might stay. Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Dan Grant
Thanks all for the encouraging words and ideas I'm real excited about this project and enjoy the work involved I think I have a good plan of attack to get this old girl in the water by mid June I do plan on keeping it for some years and restoring it over time so see you on the water ! Thanks

Re: Stus-List wiring projects

2014-04-10 Thread Marek Dziedzic
David, keep in mind that you always want to protect the wiring (or actually, against the wire failure (short)). I wood recommend installing fuses directly on the battery terminals (have a look at this: http://ca.binnacle.com/product_info.php?products_id=8934 ). There are also fuse blocks like

Re: Stus-List 38 Landfall asymmetrical spinnaker

2014-04-10 Thread RAYMOND SHIBE
Paul, Before you go any further in your quest, I have a brand new in the sleeve North "A" symmetrical for a 38 Landfall. My boat was a 1982 #125. Give me a few days to provide measurements although all 38 Landfalls may be the same. I'm sure there are listers who might provide information to t

Re: Stus-List list decorum and now Brand Support

2014-04-10 Thread Rich Knowles
Wally's been on the high seas for a while now, so you just might be right. Rich > On Apr 10, 2014, at 12:36, Frederick G Street wrote: > > Maybe it’s Ganesh… > > http://www.postaudio.net/webserver/ganesh.jpg > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard i

Re: Stus-List 38 Landfall asymmetrical spinnaker

2014-04-10 Thread Joel Aronson
Paul Couple thoughts: National Sail is Rolly Tasker's agent. FWIW I think they are a great value. I'm surprised they all went with 1.5 ounce fabric. .75 ounce is enough for most cruisers. Even the smaller chute is probably way bigger than any jib you use. I would not worry about it. You will

Re: Stus-List LF 38 rudder post grease fitting (again)

2014-04-10 Thread Jim Watts
I used to use Super Lube...until one day I noticed that everything that I had lubed had a crusty gooey coating where there used to be lube. Took me forever to clean it off, I have never used it since. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 9 April 2014 20:06, Chuck S wrote: > I

Re: Stus-List wiring projects

2014-04-10 Thread Frederick G Street
David — you’ve already gotten good replies from two sources, and both are correct. You need the 30A fuses on the solar install, and THEY NEED TO BE CLOSE TO THE BATTERY! ABYC says within seven inches of the connection point, unless you put a protective sheath over the wire from the battery; th

Re: Stus-List rod rigging versus wire replacement experiences please

2014-04-10 Thread Jim Watts
Gordon has a C&C 30-2. The "field replaceability" of wire vs rod is really no longer valid. A piece of spectra long enough to replace any stay will replace any damaged rod, and it can be spliced in place easily without any special fittings. Because of the major difference in cost, I would be seriou

Re: Stus-List list decorum and now Brand Support

2014-04-10 Thread Frederick G Street
Maybe it’s Ganesh… http://www.postaudio.net/webserver/ganesh.jpg Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Rich Knowles wrote: > Really! That blue celephant has me worried... > > Rich > LF38 > >> On Apr 1

Re: Stus-List list decorum and now Brand Support

2014-04-10 Thread Rich Knowles
Really! That blue celephant has me worried... Rich LF38 > On Apr 10, 2014, at 12:16, David wrote: > > I'll point to Wally's blog as an example, I firmly believe that his blog > actually adds to the financial value of the C&C Landfall 38. ___ This L

Stus-List 38 Landfall asymmetrical spinnaker

2014-04-10 Thread dreuge
Hi, I am looking into getting an asymmetrical spinnaker for my 38 LF. I have received a few quotes from different vendors each suggesting a slightly different size chutes.National Sails has the better price which includes a dousing sock, but it is a smaller chute. So my question is what

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Frederick G Street
Careful, he’ll start charging us for it so he can replenish the tequila fund… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 10, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > I'll point to Wally's blog as an example, I firmly believe

Stus-List list decorum and now Brand Support

2014-04-10 Thread David
Speaking of brand support... A heads up for all those who calendar things waaay in advance. We are planning the annual NE C & C Rendezvous for September 19-21st, located in Newport, RI. Not only is Newport an obvious great choice for a destination but the new owners of C & C, Waterline Systems

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I've only been on the list a few years but it's my favourite place on the *entire* internet to look for help. I'm going to take this opportunity to thank you all for the valuable advice you've offered me during my time here. It's a great list and I'm all in favour of keeping it that way. I'll go o

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Tim Sippel
It’s a Trunk-aided Cow Tim Toronto -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:30 AM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum That must

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread sam . c . salter
‎I agree with Joe. I've been a member of this list for quite a few years now and have always liked how members treat each other with a lot of respect. This is pretty rare - I’m a member of some other forums - as are others on this list - and things are not always so friendly. Let's keep it that

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Rich Knowles
That must be a mutant Ninja cow...? Rich > On Apr 10, 2014, at 10:55, Wally Bryant wrote: > > I've moved on... > > Big grins as usual. > > Wal > > >> On 4/10/2014 1:29 PM, Joe Della Barba wrote: >> The worst outbreaks seem to be about old

Re: Stus-List wiring projects

2014-04-10 Thread Eric Frank
Dave, I also bought one of these monitors from Fred and installed it last weekend. It was very easy to wire the fuse in the power supply lead, right behind the little panel of the monitor. Obviously it is a much lower amp fuse than the one in your main panel (I assume), so it will blow when

Re: Stus-List rod rigging versus wire replacement experiences please

2014-04-10 Thread Joel Aronson
Navtec recommends that rod be re-headed every 10 years. I think the cost was about $2,000 3 years ago. Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Dennis C. wrote: > Gordon, > > Most rod failures happen at the head. Many on this list have opted to > have the existing rod

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread D Harben
... I could move on but two fee of ice and two feet of snow has moving harbours challenging. ... > On Apr 10, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Wally Bryant wrote: > > I've moved on... > > Big grins as usual. > > Wal > > >> On 4/10/2014 1:29 PM, Joe Della

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread D Harben
... I could move on but two fee of ice and two feet of snow has moving harbours challenging. ... > On Apr 10, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Wally Bryant wrote: > > I've moved on... > > Big grins as usual. > > Wal > > >> On 4/10/2014 1:29 PM, Joe Della

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Wally Bryant
I've moved on... Big grins as usual. Wal On 4/10/2014 1:29 PM, Joe Della Barba wrote: The worst outbreaks seem to be about old sports cars or inflatable cows. ___ This List is provided by the C&

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Joel Aronson
"I would love for this list to stay free of that stuff and humbly request that this kind of thing cease and desist." YES! Joel On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Richard N. Bush wrote: > I second that motion! (still smarting from the "kill the lawyers thread > last week!) I rely heavily, probab

Re: Stus-List rod rigging versus wire replacement experiences please

2014-04-10 Thread Dennis C.
Gordon, Most rod failures happen at the head. Many on this list have opted to have the existing rod re-headed. This will shorten the rod and may require the addition of a toggle but the cost of re-heading may be close to or less than replacing with wire. Rod rigging will keep the resale value h

Re: Stus-List wiring projects

2014-04-10 Thread Prime Interest
In both cases the properly sized fuses protect the circuit wiring in the event of short circuit and protecting the attached component. In your first example a small amperage inline fuse is protecting the smaller/finer electronic wiring and the monitor component. Your breaker is likely a 15A on

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Dennis C.
Dan, you said "are older boats worth the trouble?". Well, that depends on two things, you and the boat. First, if you enjoy working on them then the answer is yes. If you don't have the time, desire or resources then you may want to pass. Second, there are many, many brands of boats that, quite

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Richard N. Bush
I second that motion! (still smarting from the "kill the lawyers thread last week!) I rely heavily, probably solely on this list for advice and humor, and I like to think that we share a common bond for our boats! Thanks Richard 1985 37 CB Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane,

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Curtis
Dont scratch a scab and it wont bleed... On 4/10/14, Joe Della Barba wrote: > I am 100% certain at least one person on here thinks my job, my political > views, and the country I live in are the root of all evil. Maybe all of you > do for all I know! > Unlike certain lists and forums, this place

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Joe Della Barba
This is not a random old boat - this is his father's boat. The boat also does not seem to have major issues. I would give a huge YES to this project as well! If all goes well my son will be the third owner of Coquina so I can say it is a special treat to teach your kid(s) to sail on the same boat

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Joel Aronson
Dan, Welcome! I'd do a spreadsheet of costs over the next 24 months - sails? clean fuel tank, replace hoses, replace standing/running rigging? Electronics? Could you buy a better boat for that money? Probably not. It is impossible to value the sentimental value, but remember, no one else is

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Dan If you can clean up the boat and put it in the water and running for not too much money and then especially if you can take your Dad out with you for a sail than it is so very worthwhile. You only get so many chances in life to do these things with a father and son. Mike From: C

Re: Stus-List Off topic discussion - list decorum

2014-04-10 Thread Joe Della Barba
I am 100% certain at least one person on here thinks my job, my political views, and the country I live in are the root of all evil. Maybe all of you do for all I know! Unlike certain lists and forums, this place has been mostly free of off topic sniping and flame wars. The worst outbreaks seem to

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

2014-04-10 Thread Josh Muckley
Kinda like older cars, it depends on how long you plan to hold on to it. 2 or 3 years probably not worth the hassle or investment of time and money. 10 or 20 probably. Besides, could you afford or justify a NEW boat? If not, then you are still just getting a used boat and someone else's problems

Stus-List e: LF38 rudder post grease fitting

2014-04-10 Thread Daniel Sheer
Never thought that there'd be this much discussion. Thanks to all. Dan Sheer    Pegathy LF38 Rock Creek off the Patapsco ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List rod rigging versus wire replacement experiences please

2014-04-10 Thread Bill Bina
To me, the advantages of rod rigging apply only to racing. For cruising, wire is preferable for a few reasons. One of the biggies is that wire often gives you warning before failure, while rod can visually look perfect up until the moment it suddenly fails. It is also a lot easier to carry a co

Re: Stus-List rod rigging versus wire replacement experiences please

2014-04-10 Thread Mike Brannon
I went with rod as in the end it was the same cost as converting and I like the performance. Mike SV Virginia Lee C&C 36 CB VIRGINIA Beach, VA Sent from my iPad > On Apr 9, 2014, at 23:56, CATHY DE PONT wrote: > > Greetings: > For a 1988 C and C Mk2, the cost to replace the original rod riggi

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