Re: Stus-List Bilge pump siphon

2013-08-12 Thread Colin Kilgour
The only problem with a check valve is that it reduces the flow rate. If you plan to use a check valve - as many of us, including me, do - just adjust your pump size accordingly. Same goes for how big a column of water you're pushing (ie: hose diameter) Same goes for how high you're pushing that

Re: Stus-List Bilge pump siphon

2013-08-12 Thread Josh Muckley
I must be messing up cause I have a check valve. Without it, all the water that is pushed into the hose above the pump drains right back into the sump once the pump turns off. With an auto sensing pump it would pump all the time. I did up size the discharge hose and check valve so that they woul

Re: Stus-List Yanmar starting

2013-08-12 Thread Chuck S
FYI, an auto mechanics trick to find these problems? Use a car jumper cable and alligator clip between negative battery and engine ground, or between positive source and starter solinoid, same as what you find. If you improve starting, clean connections or replace cable. Whatever it takes. Ch

Re: Stus-List Toot Toot -- re Short Blasts on the horn

2013-08-12 Thread Dennis C.
Key word here is "powerboater".  Rhymes with pooterhead, dipwad, turdball, a$$hole, and s&%thead. Wanna know how I really feel about them? Dennis C. > > From: Wally Bryant >To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 8:55 PM >Subject: Stus-L

Re: Stus-List {} CC 33 MKII Keel Sump

2013-08-12 Thread Derek Leck
Talk to you Wednesday. Thanks. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Derek Leck : : Account Manager METZGERS : : www.metzgers.com 419.861.8611 x4824 : : fax: 419.861.3299 Get Involved! http://www.metzgers.com/social-media On Aug 12, 2013, at 7:43 PM, "Colin Kilg

Stus-List Toot Toot -- re Short Blasts on the horn

2013-08-12 Thread Wally Bryant
UmmThe last time I was paying attention, three short blasts on the horn means 'I'm Backing Up' which is probably not what the big powerboater meant to say as he motored away... -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C

Re: Stus-List [SPAM] Mast rake / 35-3

2013-08-12 Thread Tim Goodyear
Thanks all, I'm going to go with 2/3rds back to start. In flat water at least, I think I need more weather helm. Tim On Aug 12, 2013, at 8:00 PM, "Jake Brodersen" wrote: > Tim, > > I have two ¾” blocks behind my mast and I think one forward of it. The last > time I checked, I had 12” of m

Re: Stus-List Bilge pump siphon

2013-08-12 Thread coltrek
Maybe you could pull the hose up to the deck where it comes through the hull and make a loop. This might break the siphon. My discharges are just below shear. Wild Bill C&C 39 Original message From: Steven Winks Date: 08/12/2013 9:15 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.

Re: Stus-List Bilge pump siphon

2013-08-12 Thread Edd Schillay
Steven, On my 37+, the discharge points are a few inches above the waterline, but the hoses leading to them loop up well above the waterline to make sure no water can come back in when the back of the boat is heavy. Check your hoses and make sure they go upwards. Also, I have, in the past, u

Stus-List Bilge pump siphon

2013-08-12 Thread Steven Winks
Hi. I have a 34+ and had an unusual thing happen this morning while at anchor. I woke to the sound of my electric bilge pump cycling on and off. The bilge was full of water. I turned the pump on to drain the bilge and it filled up again once the switch was selected to off. I had the same result

Re: Stus-List [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]

2013-08-12 Thread Derek Leck
Took me a while but that's funny stuff. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Derek Leck : : Account Manager METZGERS : : www.metzgers.com 419.861.8611 x4824 : : fax: 419.861.3299 Get Involved! http://www.metzgers.com/social-media On Aug 12, 2013, at 7:40 PM, "C

Re: Stus-List [SPAM] Mast rake / 35-3

2013-08-12 Thread Jake Brodersen
Tim, I have two ¾” blocks behind my mast and I think one forward of it. The last time I checked, I had 12” of mast rake. I have been very happy with this setup. I haven’t moved the butt of the mast in many years. It seems to work for me. Less mast rake will give you less weather helm, if t

Re: Stus-List [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: transmissions in gear while sailing

2013-08-12 Thread Jake Brodersen
Keith, That is a very interesting way to approach this task. I find that a quick look into the locker is quicker. Getting down below past the main trimmer and removing the steps can sometimes take a bit of time. I don't think I can see the shaft from the front of the engine. I have a zinc on m

Re: Stus-List {} CC 33 MKII Keel Sump

2013-08-12 Thread Colin Kilgour
Happy to chat. Let's talk rather than type. Maybe Wednesday? (I'm tied up today and tomorrow) My number is 416-315-4884 and a better email for me is c...@sailbojangles.ca. Cheers Colin On 8/12/13, Derek Leck wrote: > Greetings Colin, > > Doing a bit of research on my C & C 33’ Mark II keel s

Re: Stus-List [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]

2013-08-12 Thread Colin Kilgour
Imagine the headache this must cause the poor IT admins at Hormel! Cheers Colin On 8/12/13, Stu wrote: > > Please, please when replying to an email and the subject line contains the > word [SPAM] delete the word. Some member's email programs will reject the > email just because of the word [SP

Re: Stus-List steering quadrant - which way up?

2013-08-12 Thread dwight veinot
Thanks Martin Cable deflection is good for me and I'll use 1/4 to 3/8. that is what I was after. Last time I looked at the chain drive under the compass things looked fine so I just dopped some new lube oil on the sprocket...engine oil 10W 30 seems to have worked fine there but I will check defl

Re: Stus-List Folding Prop

2013-08-12 Thread Gary Nylander
I am happy with my Flex-o-fold geared two blade folder. Gave up a Martec non geared because I was tired of having to center the shaft every time. If you have plenty of money, I would go with a three blade feathering prop, as I think it has less drag than the folder, plus you would get more speed

Re: Stus-List Mast rake / 35-3

2013-08-12 Thread Tim Goodyear
Thanks - that's what I thought I had last year, but this year I have a (very new-looking) single large block ahead of the mast... Tim On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Graham Collins wrote: > Same. Small block ahead and small block behind. > > Graham Collins > Secret Plans > C&C 35-III #11 > > >

Re: Stus-List Americas Cup anyone

2013-08-12 Thread Edd Schillay
Listers, Sorry it's been taking me too long to reply -- work's been kicking my butt the last few days, and I'm only now catching up on emails. Initially, I thought the new AC was going to be a smash -- high speed… danger… like NASCAR for sailors. But, after watching quite a bit

Re: Stus-List Folding Prop

2013-08-12 Thread sam . c . salter
Racing and sailing. Not so much motoring.I need less drag and more knots :-)

Re: Stus-List Mast rake / 35-3

2013-08-12 Thread Graham Collins
Same. Small block ahead and small block behind. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2013-08-12 5:32 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: Centered. Joel Aronson On Aug 12, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Tim Goodyear wrote: Particularly to all you 35-3 owners out there, where do you have your mast base i

Re: Stus-List Mast rake / 35-3

2013-08-12 Thread Joel Aronson
Centered. Joel Aronson On Aug 12, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Tim Goodyear wrote: > Particularly to all you 35-3 owners out there, where do you have your mast > base in your step plate? Mine has a block ahead of the mast (so the mast is > in the rearmost position possible). I can't remember where it

Stus-List Mast rake / 35-3

2013-08-12 Thread Tim Goodyear
Particularly to all you 35-3 owners out there, where do you have your mast base in your step plate? Mine has a block ahead of the mast (so the mast is in the rearmost position possible). I can't remember where it was last year and the yard removed and re-stepped it, so I didn't place any reminder

Re: Stus-List Folding Prop

2013-08-12 Thread cenelson
Suggest a geared 2-blade so that the blades move together whether so that when folded, they both fold. I changed to a folder 2 years ago and ended up with a Gori racing prop since its resistance to flow when sailing was basically indistinguishable from the resistance of the hull alone. They ha

Re: Stus-List Folding Prop

2013-08-12 Thread Martin DeYoung
Sam, How do you plan to use the prop? Racing, cruising, or a mix, do you expect to motor a significant amount of time, and do you expect to motor into strong headwinds and seas? Budget? Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of sam.c

Stus-List Folding Prop

2013-08-12 Thread sam . c . salter
‎My 26 currently has a 12" x 8" RH, 3 blade, fixed prop. 7/8" shaft. (2GM20F - 13 1/2 hp)It's getting to the stage where I should start looking for a folding or feathering prop.What do I need!I've got room for up to about 14".I'm on a mooring, so reverseing is not a big issue. sam :-) 403-617-6280

Re: Stus-List [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]

2013-08-12 Thread Stu
Please, please when replying to an email and the subject line contains the word [SPAM] delete the word. Some member's email programs will reject the email just because of the word [SPAM] being there. Stu ___ This List is provided by the C&C Pho

Re: Stus-List [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: transmissions in gear whilesailing

2013-08-12 Thread Morgenstern, Keith E CIV SEA 08 NR
Jake, Rather than crawling in to the sail locker, another option is to remove the steps/engine cover. I have a shaft zinc on the inside of the hull, presumably so the shaft cannot get ejected out the bottom. But the side benefit is that a large sharpie mark on that zinc is visible from the *fro

Stus-List {} CC 33 MKII Keel Sump

2013-08-12 Thread Derek Leck
Greetings Colin, Doing a bit of research on my C & C 33’ Mark II keel sump and it sounds like you are the man to talk to. Any info you have on the subject would be appreciated. Thanks Derek 419-350-3006 : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Derek Leck :

Re: Stus-List searching the list

2013-08-12 Thread Stu
For anyone wanting to search the email archives for a certain subject – go to the Photo Album – scroll down the right main page to a box entitled: Search the Email Discussion List Archives Enter your search word in the box and hit “GO” If you want to search the Photo Album for a certain thing (

Re: Stus-List '74 33' C&C Sloop - $5000 (Portsmouth RI)

2013-08-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe
IMHO the ¾ ton special does not gain much performance for all the creature comforts it gives up. Kind of a specialized boat. For $5K though – one hell of a deal if the boat is in good shape. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of

Re: Stus-List steering quadrant - which way up?

2013-08-12 Thread Andrew Burton
I think you will find that tightening one cable will tighten both. The only downside--provided you have enough bite for the nuts on the other side--is that the alignment of center on the wheel will change, slightly; not a huge problem. I tighten the cables so there is very little play, but as Marti

Re: Stus-List steering quadrant - which way up?

2013-08-12 Thread Martin DeYoung
Dwight, I do not know what Edison prefers or recommends but what I concentrated on is: Enough tension to be sure the cables will not go slack under any conditions or rudder position. Not too much tension to place excess strain/wear on the other steering components. If there is excess play and

Re: Stus-List steering quadrant - which way up?

2013-08-12 Thread dwight veinot
Martin I would be interested to know how you decided that you had tensioned the steering cables enough. I have wiggled myself back to work on adjusting tension on my cables twice in the past month because after the first adjustment followed by a day sail I decided that I still had more play at th

Re: Stus-List Forestay and furler movement

2013-08-12 Thread Joel Aronson
Dennis, Good advice! Also, if you have a rod headstay, the CDI will not work. I recently had a guest aboard who thought he could "hike" by holding on to the shroud and leaning out. I informed him otherwise! Joel On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Dennis C. wrote: > While we're talking about

Re: Stus-List steering quadrant - which way up?

2013-08-12 Thread Martin DeYoung
Add Calypso's cast bronze Edison quadrant to the numbers up list. I removed the rudder for some repair this July and had the quadrant out to clean and inspect. After 43 years it looked good as new. I use the flat underside to match up with the top of Calypso's autopilot tiller arm. The two a

Stus-List Forestay and furler movement

2013-08-12 Thread Dennis C.
While we're talking about furlers, listers should check their forestay whether equipped with a furler or not, for freedom in two axes.  That is, BOTH ends of the forestay should have two pins perpendicular to each other.  This is usually accomplished with a toggle. The forestay is particularly

Re: Stus-List "Smile" or sump?

2013-08-12 Thread Tim Goodyear
Jake, I don't have any (useful) pictures of inside the bilge sump, but have some of the external work. I've included a link below - please let me know if you have any issues accessing it. Derek, My crack was much smaller than yours (I convinced myself it was paint-only for a couple of years), and

Re: Stus-List Yanmar starting

2013-08-12 Thread Dennis C.
Yep, I've worked on several Yanmars.  Same thing.  Two owners had yard replace starter.  Problem persisted.  I fixed it for an hour's time. Pull apart the harness and Tefgel all the pins, clean and TefGel all the engine wires and battery cables.  Definitely clean both ends of the wire from star

Re: Stus-List roller furling jib question

2013-08-12 Thread Jeff Foster
I have used both the CDI (on a Macgregory 26S and a Catalina 25) and the Harken on our C&C25. The CDI unit will work but Harken is far easier to use especially in high winds. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo

Re: Stus-List Yanmar starting

2013-08-12 Thread Jack Brennan
This is the infamous Yanmar click. It happens because Yanmar used cheap wiring on an otherwise good engine. If you poke around on the Internet, you can find lots of pages with people addressing it. On my 2GM20F, it was primarily a crappy fuse box that was positioned near the air filter. Eventu

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Jib question

2013-08-12 Thread Dennis C.
Anything but a Facnor. My choice would be a Harken but I'm biased.  My buddy and I install Harkens. If you want inexpensive, look on eBay.  There may be used ones available.  I routinely sell old furlers on eBay.  I have an old, old CDI I haven't gotten around to reconditioning and listing yet.

Re: Stus-List '74 33' C&C Sloop - $5000 (Portsmouth RI)

2013-08-12 Thread painedavid
Saw that one too and, as i just bought out my ex wife for her share of my 33, it made me a bit ill to see. On the other hand, it's a 3/4 ton version which means that it has a minimallist interior and odd ball things like double fore hatch and tiller steering. On Aug 9, 2013, at 7:09 PM, "djhau

Re: Stus-List Yanmar starting

2013-08-12 Thread David Knecht
I had this problem recently with my Universal M4-30 and simply removing the ground cables from the engine, cleaning terminals and reconnecting them solved the problem.   Dave David KnechtAries1990 C&C 34+New London, CT ___ This List is provided by the C

Re: Stus-List Recycled diesel fuel now Baja filter

2013-08-12 Thread Josh Muckley
Directions say to inspect for holes and then pour water in up to the brim. If the water stays them you know it works. The screen is covered with a hydrophobic coating which causes the surface tension of water to prevent it from passing through the screen. Don't get smart and try pressurizing it,

Re: Stus-List Yanmar starting

2013-08-12 Thread sam . c . salter
‎I had the same problem for a couple of seasons. Would always crank eventually, but those first 2 or 3 presses of the button with just a click were not reassuring. I

Re: Stus-List Recycled diesel fuel now Baja filter

2013-08-12 Thread Indigo
That makes sense - assuming the filter works as designed. Mine came from the PO so is at least 10 years old. Hopefully the filters don't have expiry dates! -- Jonathan Indigo C&C 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Aug 12, 2013, at 9:39, Josh Muckley wrote: > The directions that came with mine suggest pouri

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Jib question

2013-08-12 Thread Paul Baker
Have a look at the Alado furlers too, good price, seem pretty well made and simple to install without taking the mast down. I was going to get one for my 24' but ended up getting a bigger boat. Cheers, Paul. Orange Crush, C&C27MkII On 13-08-12 07:47 AM, sam.c.sal...@gmail.com wrote: ?Allen,

Re: Stus-List Yanmar starting

2013-08-12 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
I had a similar problem where I had to punch the start button 6-8 times to get the starter to crank.  Had already replaced the starter button.  Finally would just click and then go dead; not even the buzzer. Ended up being corrosion inside the sheathing in the battery cables.  Cut back a few inc

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Jib question

2013-08-12 Thread Josh Muckley
I really enjoyed the quality of the engineering when I installed a Selden Furlex 200 on my MacGregor 26C myself. ~$1250 for the furler and ~$1250 for a new headsail. I do sometimes wonder if a CDI would have been a better (cheaper) option. Josh -- When privacy matters. http://www.secure-my-ema

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Jib question

2013-08-12 Thread sam . c . salter
‎Allen, I have a 26.My boat has a ProFurl furler, installed by the previous owner. It good quality. I priced a replacement last year - would have been $1,250 cdn.However, Harken and Furlex have good reputations too.If you do install a furler, remember that your genoa will need a new luff tape (to f

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Jib question

2013-08-12 Thread Edd Schillay
Allen, For a 26-footer, I'd go with a continuous line furler. No drum and no loss of performance by having less headsail closer to the deck. Pricing is much better too. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C118%7C77896%7C942632&id=1554666 http://www.defender.com/product

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Jib question

2013-08-12 Thread Joel Aronson
Allen, A CDI would work fine and they are inexpensive. They are not as robust as the Harkens, but they are much cheaper. Joel 35/3 The Office Annapolis On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Allen White wrote: > I have a 26 and would like to add a furling head sail. I would love to > hear > any s

Stus-List Roller Furling Jib question

2013-08-12 Thread Allen White
I have a 26 and would like to add a furling head sail. I would love to hear any suggestions for a small boat ? Allen White '77 C & C 26 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Recycled diesel fuel now Baja filter

2013-08-12 Thread Josh Muckley
The directions that came with mine suggest pouring 1-2 cups of water in the bottom of the funnel. This lifts the fuel off the bottom so that it can get through the filter. If you measure the before and after water, the difference is the amount that came out of the fuel. There are oil absorbing b

Re: Stus-List Smile or sump.

2013-08-12 Thread Derek Leck
In the photo you can see the through hull's for depth and knot meter. Bilge opening is about 3 - 4" below these through hulls and about 1' aft. Water trickles into the bilge about 8" below the opening which by my estimation is pretty close to the crack. Marina repaired it once my grinding out

Stus-List boom for 37

2013-08-12 Thread Pete Shelquist
The boom on the 37 has SS lugs that protrude through the bottom of the boom. 6 hrs into an 80 hour race last week the aft most lug sheared. I'm wondering if others on the list have had a similar problem and what you did to repair/replace the lug? Another 37 in the area had the boom crack in the

Re: Stus-List Recycled diesel fuel now Baja filter

2013-08-12 Thread Indigo
I have what I think is a Baja filter. I like the idea of filtering the fuel, but because of its design (maybe mine is old and the design improved) I always have perhaps a quarter cup of fuel / water / junk left in the filter after using it. What do you do with these remnants? -- Jonathan Indig

Re: Stus-List Recycled diesel fuel

2013-08-12 Thread Jake Brodersen
I agree with Josh. Filter it and use it. The filter funnel he is referring to is called the Baja Filter. It is used by Baja racers to filter the notoriously nasty fuel found down in Mexico. Wal probably has one on the boat. The micro screen in the filter prevents liquid water from passing t