Jake,
I don't have any (useful) pictures of inside the bilge sump, but have some
of the external work.  I've included a link below - please let me know if
you have any issues accessing it.

Derek,
My crack was much smaller than yours (I convinced myself it was paint-only
for a couple of years), and right at the curve as the hull turns down into
the keel sump.  The keel sump itself (where your crack is) should be solid,
not cored, so that should make any repair less complicated / expensive
($15k in my case).  Grinding out the crack and re-fairing won't work;
grinding out and exposing the entire damage then tapering the edges and
adding several layers of glass will add the strength back.  That shouldn't
be a (very) big job.  You have to wonder what caused the crack though - was
it grounding, or have other parts of the keel sump softened / left this as
an area of stress?  I would get someone with a moisture meter to check the
hull above and outboard of the sump, and check all the tabbing in the sump
area - you may see some lifting off at the corners, which would be a
problem.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/101312290967793013089/posts/SqQDhFaLwmi

Tim
Mojito
C&C 35-3
Branford, CT


On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Jake Brodersen <captain_j...@cox.net>wrote:

>  Tim,****
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> I’d love to see your photos as well.  I may be tackling some additional
> work in my keel sump this next winter.****
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> Jake****
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> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim
> Goodyear
> *Sent:* Friday, August 09, 2013 2:07 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List "Smile" or sump?****
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> Derek,****
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> I had a similar crack on my 35-3.  We replaced all the tabbing in the keel
> sump area and wet core adjacent to the area in addition to beefing up the
> glass structure at the turn of the bilge on the exterior - not small
> undertakings.  What have people tried to date?****
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> I just shared some pictures of the repair(s) with you directly.****
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> Tim****
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> Mojito****
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> 1984 C&C 35-3****
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> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Derek Leck <derek.l...@metzgers.com>
> wrote:****
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> I recently purchased a 1985 C & C mark II.****
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> For the last two seasons I have battled a crack where the keel meets the
> hull.  References to the “C & C smile” seem to be in reference to where the
> glass meets the metal which is much lower than previously described.
> Through research I am sadly coming to the conclusion that this has more to
> do with the keel sump and a major design/build flaw.  Two different
> companies have attempted to fix but in both cases the repairs were cosmetic
> and failed miserably.****
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