I have recently enjoyed exploring clojure.
I can use java...
C:\myprograms\clojure>java -cp clojure.jar clojure.lang.Repl
Clojure
user=> (into [] (.list (new java.io.File "c:/myprograms/clojure")))
["build.xml" "changes.txt" "clj.ico" "clojure.jar" "epl-v10.html"
"fractal.clj"
"Mandelbrot.class"
Thanks. It worked. I had to add the library path as well.
C:\myprograms\clojure>java -Djava.library.path=c:\myprograms
\jacob-1.14.3 -cp C:
\myprograms\jacob-1.14.3\jacob.jar;clojure.jar clojure.lang.Repl
Clojure
user=> (import '(com.jacob.com Dispatch ComThread))
nil
user=> (def xl (new Dispatch
note exists
in many other languages as well, even bash, but I referenced newLISP
as it's also a lisp and has a particularly elegant implementation).
Any and all input is welcome on this proposal!
Kind regards and thanks in advance for taking this into consideration,
Greg (irc: itistoday)
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it's effective and aesthetically
pleasing.
Or you can just go with """ and scrap the #s{}, either way though I
think this would make an exciting addition to Clojure.
Hopefully the devs watch this list? Or should I also suggest this on
clojure-dev?
- Greg
On Oct 11
hort strings.
And having a verbose alternative (heredocs, triple-quote, whatever)
will bullet-proof you against other situations.
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On Oct 11, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Richard Newman wrote:
>
>> True, and it is why newLISP uses two delimiters for this purpose, {}
>> and [text][/text].
On Oct 11, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Greg wrote:
> The purpose of which would be primarily to make writing regular
> expressions easier, but also to deal with strings that have quotes
> in time
Sorry, that should read "quotes in them". ;-)
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e used to connotative functions calls or lists, and that's
it), and isn't arbitrarily angry (looking at you, #s!!). ;-)
- Greg
On Oct 12, 2009, at 4:40 AM, Danny Woods wrote:
>
> Perl and Ruby do something similar with regular expressions, where the
> character following 'm
Forgive me, but I'm unfamiliar with the readtable, are you just
referring to where this syntax might be implemented? Or are you
suggesting an alternative syntax?
- Greg
On Oct 12, 2009, at 11:20 AM, DanL wrote:
>
> I'm aware that this already has been discussed, and until
asses protected from
this? Wouldn't it interfere with them? Or will the delimiters be
restricted to non-alphanumeric characters?
- Greg
On Oct 12, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Michael Wood wrote:
>
> 2009/10/12 Greg :
>>
>> I'm not sure I follow what John is saying (some of th
is called. That way whenever you look at someone else's code and see
it, you know what it is, and people can update their code parser's/
syntax highlighters appropriately.
- Greg
On Oct 12, 2009, at 2:59 PM, DanL wrote:
>
> On 12 Okt., 20:46, Greg wrote:
>
>> Forg
ake, e.g. correct syntax
> highlighting in emacs, in eclipse?
I think you make an excellent point here. I also agree with you, the
Perl "make your own thing up" path, while it has some advantages, it
will lead to everyone having their own special convention (leading to
confus
n the loop to the different values in the table.
How would you implement this behavior in Clojure?
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vars 'col-names' and 'col-vals' as placeholders.
That seems to work great, what I'm fuzzy on is the whole macroexpansion thing
and when it occurs. As in this example everything is known at compile-time, is
this "macro-expanded" at compile time? Can this
better than the
other, I think both are great and it's why I'm asking these questions. :-)
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On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Greg wrote:
> Thanks Meikel, if I may reply to your points and your function as it's
> slightly different from what I wanted:
>
>> *
re any performance considerations?
>
> The macroexpansion occurs at compile time. If you have all the knowledge at
> compile time, you can do the work then. If you don't, the macro has to expand
> into code that does the work at runtime.
Thanks for the example and explanation!
> - Uses eval (which apparently is fine in newLISP, but as a Common Lisper and
> Clojurite strikes me as pointless)
So, as I showed, the Clojure version seems to not require the use of eval.
> c.c.sql also allows you to synthesize queries from Lisp forms
This is a good point, and if I were
in a string to a function that's
expecting a double? That's what documentation is for. And if you want the
macro/fexpr to accept function as well as symbols, you can always rewrite it to
check for both and act appropriately.
- Greg
On Feb 4, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Meikel Brandmeyer wrote:
>
o
specify the namespace. I complained about it on newLISP's forums and luckily in
the next version this won't be an issue because there will be a function that
will give you the namespace that a given symbol belongs to.
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On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Greg wrote:
>> It's not
ere are no variable capture issues here at least,
because the fexpr is inside of its own context (that's what define-smacro does,
the 's' is for 'safe').
- Greg
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Richard Newman wrote:
>> NAME (not name) may be "interned" in
HP-style templating in Clojure:
http://www.brool.com/index.php/a-modest-proposal
And he does have some eval's in there:
http://github.com/brool/gulliver/blob/master/template-servlet.clj
But my Clojure knowledge isn't yet good enough to tell me whether he's using
eval only once or on ev
fer this style of templating to Enlive, because it makes it far easier to
work with (IMO), and I wouldn't be surprised if it is faster too.
Thanks,
- Greg
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Richard Newman wrote:
>> And he does have some eval's in there:
>>
>> http://gith
> Here's a challenge for you - Monads. If you can clearly explain monads
> you'll be my hero. :-)
Seconded. Plus the existing Clojure docs I'm able to find on monads seem to be
totally out of date, the example code fails to run as well.
- Greg
On Feb 4, 2010, at 5:55
was designed for that.
Or you can implement a *nix shell in Clojure. :-p
- Greg
On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:42 AM, Tim Clemons wrote:
> Perhaps the solution is to have a *nix shell implemented in Clojure.
> That would limit the start-up issue to a single initial instance.
> Then the user can p
y real stability issues with them.
http://www.newlisp.org/downloads/development/
The community is located here:
http://newlispfanclub.alh.net/forum/
- Greg
On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:21 AM, e wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Greg wrote:
> A much easier solution is to
on such a project...
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On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:54 PM, nchubrich wrote:
> Chouser---
>
> The Parrot vm looks really great for Clojurepresumably Clojure
> could have continuations and TCO there.
>
>
>
> On Feb 5, 9:59 am, Chouser wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2
uot;))
(defn main []
(print "hello from main\n")
(frob))
(main)
;; foo-util.clj
(in-ns 'foo)
(defn frob []
(print "hello from frob\n"))
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On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Mike Jarmy wrote:
> That yields ".;lib/clojure.jar", just as we'
> Look for the laptop with the "my other car is a cdr" sticker
:-D
I need to get that for my car, it should synergize with the Starfleet Academy
sticker...
On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
> Wow, I certainly was not expecting that level of response; this is great.
>
> Looks
let me know).
That was the only area where distribution is a pain with Java, damned native
libraries.
- Greg
On Feb 8, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> On 07.02.2010, at 03:25, Constantine Vetoshev wrote:
>
>> I stopped using Python and Ruby and Perl partly because the pa
ses very instructive because you don't ignore the
OP's request when juxtaposing your alternative suggestion. It helps them make a
better decision about what route they want to go.
Thanks,
- Greg
On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:40 AM, CuppoJava wrote:
> It looks like you want to imple
a problems that involve a lot of memory.
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On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Aviad Reich wrote:
> thank you.
> I have "-server" and "-Xmx1024m" set in my 'swank-clojure-extra-vm-args, but
> the problem remains.
>
> Aviad
>
>
>
> On 10 Februar
(a b c)
Has this been considered already? Would this be something that could be added
to the language syntax?
Thanks for your consideration!
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On Jun 27, 2013, at 6:45 AM, Mikera wrote:
> I agree that negative indexing (and presumably also modulo indexing for the
> upper index?) is very useful. Stuff like this comes up all the time in
> core.matrix
>
> However I don&#x
Can anyone explain the relationship between swap! and reset! ?
Why is using swap! in this example "safe" and using reset! not?
I've tried searching google for comparisons of the two but can't find anything,
and the documentation doesn't help much.
Thanks,
Greg
On
If you haven't considered LWJGL as an alternative to JOGL, I highly recommend
it. I remember preferring it over JOGL when I compared them some years ago.
Many popular game engines use it (like jMonkeyEngine).
http://www.lwjgl.org/
http://mybuddymichael.com/writings/using-lwjgl-from-clojure.html
magical atomic moment.
If I've got this wrong, please let me know!
Cheers,
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On Jun 28, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Greg wrote:
> Can anyone explain the relationship between swap! and reset! ?
>
> Why is using swap! in this example "safe" and using reset! not?
>
> I
understand how a map, in this case `templates', is also being used as a
namespace: `(templates/add-template renderer ... )'.
What's going on?
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Where did you see the first :require? I can't find it in the code sample.
> one deriving from:
> (:require ...
> [io.pedestal.app.render.push.templates :as templates]
> ...)
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On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:08 AM, gianluca torta wrote:
> right, sorry!
>
> I found the double role of "template" in this sample file on the pedestal
>
or special characters, so I searched the list and found this thread.
It turns out my wish for a generalized threading macro three years ago came
true!!
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/clojure/6Cb8MD5EC3w/y1mNNK3ZUxYJ
Thank you Rich (or whoever's responsible)!!! :-D
Cheers,
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/tmp" and a file is made out of it. 'x' is rebound again
to the resulting file and a put through the 'file-seq' function, etc.
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Excellent work as usual Mimmo!
I continue to find your tutorials very helpful. Thank you very much for
creating them!
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> Hi all, I j
level reason why that's
not possible. :-\
Thoughts?
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ime customizing Sublime Text, but the good news is
that your time won't be spent in vain, and once you have it set up the way you
like, there's no need to continue tinkering like crazy.
5. Conclusion
-
- Yes, IntelliJ is a very good IDE for Clojure development.
- Sublim
us, "Find
Function Definition" now works on just about every symbol I try it on! :-)
I might make a blog post about my ST2 Clojure setup if there's any interest in
that.
> 4. On Sublime Text (ST)
>
>
> Non-free.
I'd say it'
> You submit patches to nonfree software?!
How do you make a screwy-eyed emoticon?
The plugin is free software. ST is nagware. Oh, and IntelliJ, as others have
already pointed out, is also free software (community edition, which is great).
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>> 'jumping to a symbol's definition (and back again)? Those didn't seem to be
>> there last time, and I'd struggle to live without them on a project of any
>> size.'
>>
>> Besides paredit, this is abso
t works with nREPL. Link in
the other thread.
So looks like you're pretty much covered by ST already. :-)
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> I would be willin
port is super-crashy. That
> doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence.
OK, well, were they talking about the fork I was referring to? Are you sure?
Did you try it yourself?
I haven't experienced a single crash so far.
I see you didn't comment on the jump-to-* recommendations..
ty, where for the selected function/method in
the drop down list you are shown all the documentation for it.
And, assuming you implemented all of the above, then it'd also be nice to
auto-import namespaces (similar to how IntelliJ already does it for Java
source).
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> Colin:
>
> I think ST has a good bus
ombine all of the -dbg and -pre files together, just make it so that after you
build with a profile, everything is set to that profile, and then to try the
other version, just build with a different profile. Fewer files to update and
deal with that way.
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I think there were multiple posts from me on that day.
This is the one:
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On Jul 28, 2013, at 1:28 AM, Korny Sietsma
Neat! Bookmarked. :-)
What about clamq?
https://github.com/sbtourist/clamq
Is there a reason you decided to write your own instead of contributing to that
project?
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Awesome! Thanks! It's nice to know this exists, might have a use for it in the
future.
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On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:00 AM, Trevor Bernard wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to ann
> Langohr README answers your question pretty well.
I'm not familiar enough with either project to understand.
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Thanks for the explanation!
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> I'm not familiar enough with either project to understand.
>
> Langohr is a Rab
> It's pretty ugly to use aliases for numerical code, e.g. with core.matrix,
> e.g.
Agreed. It's nice that :require :refer :all is available for such instances,
isn't it?
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>> It's pretty ugly to use aliases for numerical code, e.g. with core.matrix,
>> e.g.
>
> Agreed. It's nice that :require :refer :all is available for such instances,
> isn't it?
* Or for the more gentlemanly and considerate among us, just (:require ...
:re
g are
the keyword-options to available in the :require clauses, but we already had
those before.
> Please also explain at the same time, why (use 'core.matrix) remains
> clear and why this should not change to "(require 'core.matrix :refer
> :all)".
I must have mi
* That email was just an idea to explore, not perfection.
Also, this is a mistake:
(:require [clojure.core :refer [ancestors printf]]
Should read something like:
(:require [clojure.core :refer-except [ancestors printf]]
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> * That email was just an idea to explore, not perfection.
>
> Also, this is a mistake:
>
>
ick the ball rolling.
If the above syntax can't be made to support the old school syntax as well,
another thought would be to create a new name for the declaration, calling it
"include" or something like that instead of "ns".
Thoughts?
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Summary:
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&
evel of the
namespace? I see no reason why we couldn't just do this then:
[:refer-all [core]]
Or optionally, in the case where there's just one namespace in the vector:
[:refer-all core]
OK, that's enough from me on this for now, gotta run (lot of work to do!).
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chip away at the mountain of keywords and we still have *all*
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[one.middleware :as middleware]
[net.cgrand.enlive-html :as html])
(:import (org.apache.maven.artifact.resolver ArtifactResolver)
(java.io File
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e used to save
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> I forgot to add:
>
> I think simplicity is really important, a
ly contain functions and the keyword :as to rename functions.
4) namespaces are referred by placing a space after the namespace prefix
Also, an added feature/rule is that globbing-based strings can be used to save
on typing (as shown in the example above).
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> Struggling a bit. Moving the keywords to the end of the vector rather
> than the beginning? This reduces complexity?
I changed the syntax a bit since posting that, please have a look at the
"[Proposal] Simplified 'ns' declaration" thread.
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I assume there's some minor error in the example you gave, but let me try and
and address your question anyway: you could either introduce a new keyword
(like :as-class), or use :as to rename them to avoid conflicts. After all, it's
already possible to have conflicts between just two name
you can do it explicitly with :as, like I
gave in the example with "enlive-html":
[net.cgrand enlive-html :as html]
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l g (dostuff [this]))
g
baz=> g
{:on-interface baz.g, :on baz.g, :sigs {:dostuff {:doc nil, :arglists ([this]),
:name dostuff}}, :var #'baz/g, :method-map {:dostuff :dostuff},
:method-builders {#'baz/dostuff #}}
baz=> (defn g [] "a")
#'baz/g
baz=> g
#
And I'm
ort each? If I simply say "go get foo.bar" what
>> are you going to load, the .clj file, or the java interface?
It would also help to have an example of how it's currently done.
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If you want the var, do either:
(ns user [foo])
foo/IBar
Or, if you want to refer the protocol so that you don't have to qualify it as
above, simply do this:
(ns user [foo (IBar)])
It's the same thing as writing this at a REPL:
(require '
design? Other than that, I don't personally
have any ideas on how that could be simplified.
I hope to respond to the other emails in this thread when I get the time to,
especially Timothy's. Hopefully that'll happen once I finish one project in
about a week or so.
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Wrote /Users/gslepak/Programming/Clojure/slothcfg-git/pom.xml
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> I've been trying for at least an hour to deploy a project
adable form" RuntimeException.
Included @ninjudd's PR to configleaf to add :keyseq and :var options
Restructured and updated text in README.md
Grab it at Github: https://github.com/taoeffect/slothcfg
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On Aug 16, 2013, at 7:14 PM, David Santiago wrote:
> So, just to be clear, you thought you'd just go ahead and fork, rename, and
> re
uuz))
>blah)
That's ugly.
>> Would love it if as-> allowed removing unnecessary characters, this way:
>>
>> (as-> <> foo
>> bar
>> (baz <> quux)
>> blah)
>>
>>
>> Anyway, very minor quibble, j
I think it could benefit from more posts on using Clojure with IDE/Editor ___.
Perhaps outsource some of that with links to existing posts on the topic.
I hesitate to recommend this to anyone because I can't recommend Emacs (even
though it's my primary terminal editor).
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> Thanks Mike for your r
considering Clojure:
http://gregslepak.posterous.com/clojures-n00b-attraction-problem
In the post I cover issues with:
- Obtaining Clojure
- Running Clojure
- IDEs
- Emacs/VIM
- Build systems
- Documentation
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Clojure *will ask*, and they need a good answer. Not "there's not such thing as
an executable you n00b! Bah humbug!"
BTW, I really like Paul's Q&A's, how would one go about getting something like
that on either clojure.org or the Assembla wi
nguage and the community if we address their concerns.
Plus, it's just a nice thing to do.
If I have time, I'm going to see what I can do about improving clojure's API
docs, and if anyone is already working on this sort of project, I'd be
interested in possibly helping out.
plugin? I tried all 3 IDEs and I
was most impressed with IntelliJ IDEA. It's not too difficult to setup, and
once you do it's really nice and has I think all of the stuff you asked about
(syntax coloring, auto-completion, doc access, etc.).
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Very insightful comments Chas!
I agree with most of what you've said, in the sense that I definitely see your
point of view.
On Jun 28, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Chas Emerick wrote:
> Greg, thanks for this post, it's a helpful perspective. Many of us have been
> working on this prob
7;d just have to
comment that call out while developing?).
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On Jun 29, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Phil Hagelberg wrote:
>> I'm pushing for a Leiningen 1.2.0 release really soon now, and part of
>> that effort is sprucing u
Hey Lee,
I made a quick getting started video for IntelliJ and La Clojure that covers
all the steps:
http://gregslepak.posterous.com/clojure-development-with-intellijs-la-clojure
Hope it's helpful!
- Greg
On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:28 AM, Lee Spector wrote:
>
> On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:
I want to take your class! :-D
BTW, just one more nudge for IntelliJ. I don't know if you noticed this as
well, but another thing that made me a real fan of it is its startup time
compared to NetBeans and Eclipse. Is it me or is it a *lot* faster?
On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Lee Spector wrote:
erop with Java even when
Clojure-in-Clojure happens, so there's nothing to worry about.
I'm quite excited about Clojure-in-Clojure. The possibilities that will offer
are awesome. I'm looking forward to the day when it runs on LLVM. If that
happens. :-)
- Greg
On Jun 29, 2010, at 11:15
Many thanks Adrian!
(This is the OP, I sent an email from another account because I thought there
were issues with this one).
On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Adrian Cuthbertson wrote:
> Sorry, you don't need the type hists just the "this" arg...
>
> (seq (.list (java.io.File. ".") (reify java.io.
newLISP):
http://www.taoeffect.com/other/clj.lsp.html
It's really simple, at least in newLISP, to do this:
(constant 'CLOJURE_HOME (or (env "CLOJURE_HOME") (string (env "HOME")
"/.clojure"))
Input welcome!
- Greg
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> For example, I would love to see some portion of Clojure run on a platform
> that has much faster boot times so I can use Clojure for one-off shell
> scripts.
I've mentioned this before, but I can't help myself as I see lots of people who
want to use Clojure for scripting but complain about i
ct Mac solution, but it's a
really nice IDE and I've made setup instructions here:
http://gregslepak.posterous.com/clojure-development-with-intellijs-la-clojure
Hope that helps!
- Greg
On Jun 30, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Glenn, Jacob wrote:
> On 6/29/10 8:46 PM, "Sean Corfield" wrote:
> Point is, I'd rather just use Clojure.
Ah, well in that case, have you tried using Nailgun?
http://martiansoftware.com/nailgun/index.html
On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:34 PM, David Nolen wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Greg wrote:
>> For example, I would love to se
and I'm not sure this is something we should really try and hide.
CLOJURE_HOME doesn't hide anything, it's set by the user after all.
Cheers,
Greg
On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Rick Moynihan wrote:
> On 30 June 2010 21:14, Brian Schlining wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>
ld expect something
like CLOJURE_HOME to exist, because it's useful convention employed frequently.
If it were a convention in Clojure, n00bs an non-n00bs alike would benefit from
it, while those who don't need it won't be affected in any way.
- Greg
On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Mike A
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