Oh, some other thoughts/requests/ideas:

- Xocde-style refactoring for renaming symbols inline in the current scope. 
Sublime-style renaming would be OK too.
- For the jump-to-symbol stuff, don't actually change the view to the other 
symbol. Perhaps make an alternate command that lets you see that source but in 
a hover/floaty/popup window so that you don't have to navigate back to where 
you were.

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On Jul 27, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Greg <g...@kinostudios.com> wrote:

> Colin:
> 
> I think ST has a good business model via its constant nags. $70 USD to get it 
> to STFU and support the developer seems fair, while allowing those who can't 
> afford it to use it and tolerate the nags.
> 
> If you don't give people a way to use your IDE for free then most people 
> won't use it because there are plenty of free or nearly-free alternatives out 
> there that are already great (like Sublime). Having a large user-base will 
> help you in the long run, because without on your IDE won't have a community 
> behind it to support word-of-mouth and things like plugins, etc.
> 
> That said, I'd love an improved version of La Clojure for IntelliJ!
> 
> Here's a wish list if you decide to go for it:
> 
> - Perfect support for Leiningen, including support for all the crazy 
> customizations and sub-projects.
> - Bug-free or fewer bugs. The current Leiningen plugin has some bugs where it 
> prevents you from adding new jar files to the module (sometimes, not always).
> - Fantastic support for jumping to the definition of any symbol in your 
> leiningen project, whether it's Java source or Clojure source.
> - Support for ClojureScript.
> - Auto-complete of the Xcode variety, where for the selected function/method 
> in the drop down list you are shown all the documentation for it.
> 
> And, assuming you implemented all of the above, then it'd also be nice to 
> auto-import namespaces (similar to how IntelliJ already does it for Java 
> source).
> 
> Cheers!
> Greg
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> On Jul 27, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Colin Fleming <colin.mailingl...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I was planning to wait a little longer before going public, but since it's 
>> pretty relevant to the other IntelliJ thread going on at the moment I 
>> thought I'd jump in. For the last couple of months of happy unemployment 
>> I've been working on a fork of La Clojure which is now about 70% migrated to 
>> Clojure and significantly improved. It's a lot of work to develop a tool 
>> like this, and one of the options I'm considering is starting a company to 
>> develop it as a commercial product - JetBrains have never maintained 
>> development of La Clojure very actively. I've been doing a little market 
>> research but there's really not much data around about whether there are 
>> enough people working with Clojure to sustain a product like that, and also 
>> the community is currently very focused on open source.
>> 
>> One problem is that the IDE space is already fairly fractured - there's 
>> Emacs and CCW, Clooj, Sublime Text and the promise of Light Table at some 
>> point, and of course the current public version of La Clojure. But there's 
>> still not a great option for something that's powerful but easy to use - CCW 
>> is probably the closest thing to this right now. However I think it's 
>> telling that a large fraction of people in the State of Clojure 2012 survey 
>> still identified development tools as a major pain point.
>> 
>> I think that the IntelliJ platform is a fantastic base to build something 
>> like this on. Clojure as a language makes it pretty challenging to develop a 
>> lot of the great functionality that JetBrains are famous for, but I think 
>> there's scope to do a lot of great things. Certainly for mixed Clojure/Java 
>> projects it would be difficult to beat, but even for Clojure only projects I 
>> can imagine a lot of fantastic functionality built on their infrastructure. 
>> My plan would be to release a standalone IDE and a plugin for people using 
>> IntelliJ Ultimate for web dev, Ruby/Python or whatever. Since it's mostly 
>> Clojure now (and I'm migrating what's left as I get to it) there's a real 
>> possibility of a Clojure plugin/extension API. I envision charging 
>> PyCharm/RubyMine type prices, say $200 for company licenses or $100 for 
>> individual developers.
>> 
>> So, I'd love to hear what people think. I'd appreciate it if we could stay 
>> away from the politics of open source vs proprietary - several people have 
>> told me privately that they'd rather use OSS and that's fine, proprietary 
>> isn't for everyone. What I'd like to know is if the idea is appealing to 
>> many people here?
>> 
>> In case it's a concern for anyone, I've discussed this with JetBrains.
>> 
>> Thanks for any feedback,
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Colin
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