On 2025-01-19 3:07 a.m., Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 08:27:05PM +, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
[...]
My robot vacuum has taken to asking "Please empty my dustbin and clean my
filter" about 5 minutes after I did that. More annoyingly, it insists
On 18/01/2025 19:17, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Expert systems have always been considered a kind of AI system. What
makes them somewhat different is that they actually have a
decades-long track record of working. I remember learning these back
in 1976, from visiting prof. Donald Mickie at
OK. As usual was the problem quite evident, once I understood it... I have two
A400 boards.
On that board I tested with I never took note of switch 8. It was unfortunately
set to OFF indicating that
there was backup power for memory. Thus the power lost flag was never set,
which caused the p
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 5:32 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
> I also have a bunch of iRobot Roombas in my house. Based on my
> experience with AI and robots I think there is no chance we will
> have to worry about any Terminators in the future.
I certainly have to bother with te
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 08:27:05PM +, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> My robot vacuum has taken to asking "Please empty my dustbin and clean my
> filter" about 5 minutes after I did that. More annoyingly, it insists that
> "I'm stuck. Please move me so I c
On 2025-01-18 1:42 p.m., Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
Around 1981 I wrote what would now be called chatbot in 6502 (on an OSI
500 board - obligatory old computer content) that was placed in our
local library for the public to have a go on. Because most people hadn't
seen a com
Hi,
for a 860a based on the list of maintenance supporting tools listed in the 18x
CM maintenance manual uploaded on bitsavers recently.
Andreas
> Am 18.01.2025 um 22:22 schrieb William Donzelli via cctalk
> :
>
> Which Cyber 180 are these for?
>
> --
> Will
>
>
On 18/01/2025 19:17, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Expert systems have always been considered a kind of AI system. What
makes them somewhat different is that they actually have a
decades-long track record of working. I remember learning these back
in 1976, from visiting prof. Donald Mickie at
On 18/01/2025 18:11, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote:
On 18/01/2025 16:53, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
This is what ChatGPT said about me:
Is this the latest variation on goolging one's own name ? :-)
It doesn't know me at all. I'm assuming that means I'm safe ...
ne, as long as you own a lot of tech stocks, either liquid or in your
401(k).
"Other people's problems, They overwhelm my mind
They say compassion is a virtue, But I don't have the time"
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 3:19 PM Rick Bensene via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org>
From: Cameron Kaiser via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2025 10:54 AM
To: Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Cc: Cameron Kaiser
Subject: [cctalk] Re: AI? Really?
Chuck G. wrote:
>> I fear that before long, the WWW will be hopelessly polluted by
>>
On 17/01/2025 14:59, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
The high bit indicated laser on/off, and the rest of the bits were a
15-bit repeat count. A token of all zero indicates the end of that
raster line. 2 consecutive zero tokens indicates the end of the
entire plot.
That's pretty muc
There will be Terminators, but they will all have the same bug where they
point the gun at their own head while saying Pasta la VISA (brought to you
by Carl's Jr).
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 1:30 PM ben via cctalk
wrote:
> On 2025-01-18 1:27 p.m., Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
> >
On 2025-01-18 1:27 p.m., Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote:
On 18/01/2025 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
A little humor for the group.
I also have a bunch of iRobot Roombas in my house. Based on my
experience with AI and robots I think there is no chance we will
have to worry about
On 18/01/2025 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
A little humor for the group.
I also have a bunch of iRobot Roombas in my house. Based on my
experience with AI and robots I think there is no chance we will
have to worry about any Terminators in the future.
My robot vacuum has
Which Cyber 180 are these for?
--
Will
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 2:11 PM hupfadekroua via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I‘m searching the following CDC parts:
>
> 52948476 CM Board extender
> 91915206 CM Board extender
> 24614635 ZIF Board extender
Make that Dr. DOBBS …
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 18, 2025, at 11:49, Wayne S wrote:
>
> They both died when Dr. Jones Journal stopped publication, as did many other
> topics.
> I miss that Magazine.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>> On Jan 18, 2025,
Skynet became self-aware on August 29, 1997, at 2:14 a.m. EDT.
They both died when Dr. Jones Journal stopped publication, as did many other
topics.
I miss that Magazine.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 18, 2025, at 11:40, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 1/18/25 11:17, Paul Koning wrote:
>>
>
>> Expert systems have alway
On 1/18/25 11:17, Paul Koning wrote:
>
> Expert systems have always been considered a kind of AI system. What makes
> them somewhat different is that they actually have a decades-long track
> record of working. I remember learning these back in 1976, from visiting
> prof. Donald Mickie at th
:17, Paul Koning via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jan 18, 2025, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>> He said, that the computerized version was more adroit at spotting decay
>> and could perform periodontal charting from radiogr
> On Jan 18, 2025, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
> He said, that the computerized version was more adroit at spotting decay
> and could perform periodontal charting from radiographs without the
> necessity of a hygienist poking at your gums with a
On 1/18/25 10:56, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote:
> AI is useful for getting funding, but nothing else.
> Always has been.
The problem is the chum bucket that everything related to expert systems
and genetic algorithms is tossed into along with real LLM programs.
For example, yesterday,
Hello all,
I‘m searching the following CDC parts:
52948476 CM Board extender
91915206 CM Board extender
24614635 ZIF Board extender
Of course I do know looking for such kind of items in our days may be some kind
of peculiar, but who knows …
Andreas
> I fear that before long, the WWW will be hopelessly polluted by
> AI-generated content. "Facts" will become irrelevant.
We call this "politics."
--
personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...
AI is useful for getting funding, but nothing else.
Always has been.
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 6:51 PM Paul Koning via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > On 18/01/2025 16:53, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
> >> This is what ChatGPT said about
>
> On 18/01/2025 16:53, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
>> This is what ChatGPT said about me:
I learned a bit about the near-worthlessness of AI supplied web query results
when I asked Google about international book mail rates. I asked twice -- the
first time it told me i
On 18/01/2025 16:53, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
This is what ChatGPT said about me:
Is this the latest variation on goolging one's own name ? :-)
It doesn't know me at all. I'm assuming that means I'm safe ... for now.
Antonio
--
Antonio Carlini
anto...@acarlini.com
On 18/01/2025 17:08, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
I fear that before long, the WWW will be hopelessly polluted by
AI-generated content. "Facts" will become irrelevant.
I think this has already started and is progressing at pace, but AI is a
late to the party.
We haven't
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 10:36:57AM -0500, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>
> A little humor for the group.
>
> Among my other "legacy" systems I also have and still fool around
> with a bunch of TRS-80's. Believe it or not, the Z80 based TRS-80's
> were
A little humor for the group.
Among my other "legacy" systems I also have and still fool around
with a bunch of TRS-80's. Believe it or not, the Z80 based TRS-80's
were among the systems for which a version of STVOS was available.
Thought I would look to see if any of it was still floating ar
On 18/01/2025 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
A little humor for the group.
Among my other "legacy" systems I also have and still fool around
with a bunch of TRS-80's. Believe it or not, the Z80 based TRS-80's
were among the systems for which a version of
On 1/18/25 08:53, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
>
> Started off okay-ish. Then Atari 8-bit? Nope - never even owned one,
> never mind writing a 6502 assembler for anything. Oh well, I guess it
> confused me with the real author of "Assemblotron, so I looked it up.
> The p
Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
> I'm pretty sure FreeBSD runs on these boards and the A20 has pretty good
> support. Try asking kev...@freebsd.org.
>
> Regards, Frank.
Yes.. a year ago or so I had FreeBSD running on a CB2, yes it works and
I'm ad home on FreeBSD. Most
> > On Jan 17, 2025, at 12:10 PM, ben via cctalk
> > <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 2025-01-17 8:46 a.m., Paul Koning wrote:
> >
> > As for ALGOL, I know that Burroughs ALGOL (which
> > is an extended ALGOL-60) has separate
I'm pretty sure FreeBSD runs on these boards and the A20 has pretty good
support. Try asking kev...@freebsd.org.
Regards, Frank.
> On Jan 17, 2025, at 12:10 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
>
> On 2025-01-17 8:46 a.m., Paul Koning wrote:
>
>> As for ALGOL, I know that Burroughs ALGOL (which is an extended ALGOL-60)
>> has separate compilation, through a linker called "Binder". There is
Elson via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: 17 January 2025 17:04
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Cc: Jon Elson
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Fanuc Tape Reader PECs 1980's - Connector Identification
On 1/17/25 10:43, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote:
> I may be clutching at straws here, b
Many Thanks; Just ordered something similar - these guys don't ship to the UK
Martin
-Original Message-
From: Chuck Guzis via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: 17 January 2025 17:05
To: Martin Bishop via cctalk
Cc: Chuck Guzis
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Fanuc Tape Reader
On 2025-01-17 8:46 a.m., Paul Koning wrote:
As for ALGOL, I know that Burroughs ALGOL (which is an extended ALGOL-60) has separate
compilation, through a linker called "Binder". There is even a Binder for
PDP-11 ALGOL, though I haven't tried it. PDP-11 ALGOL looks very much like a 16-bit
de
https://www.ebay.com/itm/254949174184
I believe that this is the one. Used by Fanuc.
--Chuck
On 1/17/25 10:43, Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk wrote:
I may be clutching at straws here, but Fanuc was a GE
company, was it not? And I know that GE had a relationship
with Matsushita back in the 70s. Our local GE rep
(Toronto, Canada) offered Matsushita product where they
didn't have
st Regards
Martin
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From: Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: 17 January 2025 16:44
To: Jon Elson via cctalk
Cc: Nigel Johnson Ham
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Fanuc Tape Reader PECs 1980's - Connector Identification
On 2025-01-17 10:07, Jon E
ds
Martin
-Original Message-
From: Jon Elson via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: 17 January 2025 15:07
To: Martin Bishop via cctalk
Cc: Jon Elson
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Fanuc Tape Reader PECs 1980's - Connector Identification
On 1/16/25 16:07, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote:
On 2025-01-17 10:07, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 1/16/25 16:07, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote:
1980's Fanuc tape reader PECs are fitted with two families of
connector I am unfamiliar with : one is used for power and the other
for signal connections -further detail and pictures i
"HONDA MR-20F+MR-20L FANUC I/O
Plug Female Connector"
Happy bunny
Martin
-Original Message-
From: Ed via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: 17 January 2025 14:18
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Cc: Ed
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Fanuc Tape Reader PECs 1980's - Connector
> On Jan 17, 2025, at 11:03 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 1/17/25 09:46, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>>
>> I don't remember if it's part of the standard, but separate compilation is a
>> common extension in a bunch of languages. I don&#
On 1/17/25 09:46, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
I don't remember if it's part of the standard, but separate compilation is a
common extension in a bunch of languages. I don't remember if the Pascal I
learned on (PDP-10) has it, but I would certainly expect the VMS version t
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote:
I don't have any real information, but...
I know Fanuc as a manufacturer of industrial and CNC equipment, not
somputing, and I wouldn't be surprised if those connectors come from that
side of their business. Maybe check industrial
> On Jan 17, 2025, at 10:25 AM, ben via cctalk wrote:
>
> On 2025-01-17 7:59 a.m., Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Pascal is really sort of a dialect of Algol, so I thought this was somewhat
>> on topic.
>
> That is the DARK side of computing, Real comp
My experience of Algol 68 was for my computer programming course in Uni
(Hull, 1978). We submitted a pile of cards and got fanfold in return. No
contact with the actual run system. ICL 1900 running George iV iirc.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 3:32 PM ben via cctalk
wrote:
> On 2025-01-17 7:59
On 2025-01-17 7:59 a.m., Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
Pascal is really sort of a dialect of Algol, so I thought this was
somewhat on topic.
That is the DARK side of computing, Real computers are found in the
BATCAVE and can even run ALGOL 58. (batman 1967) :)
http
On 1/16/25 16:07, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote:
1980's Fanuc tape reader PECs are fitted with two families of connector I am
unfamiliar with : one is used for power and the other for signal connections
-further detail and pictures in the following VCF post
No joy on Burndy website
OK, I just wanted to chime in on this retro stuff. Back in
1996 or so I built a laser photoplotter for making circuit
board artwork. See http://pico-systems.com/photoplot.html
for a pic and some info. The original software was written
in Turbo Pascal on a Win 95 system so it could access the
Hi,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote:
I've got 3 pcs. Cubieboard 2 SBC's with the Allwinner A20 SOC Chip on
them. That's kind of a RaspberryPi SBC with an 2 Code Arm7hf on it.
The boards are equipped with HDMI, USB, Ethernet (100Tx), SATA, SD Card
slot and some 4G
, BOM, software and build instructions for the SBC6120 CPU board are
available from the link above (see the "File List" at the bottom of the
Retrobrew page).
Enjoy
Tom
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 8:37 PM Doug Jackson via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
&
On 1/17/25 7:06 AM, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote:
Links or OEM / part numbers would be very helpful - Galco have a big warehouse
VMTiA
Martin
It was several years ago, no longer have part numbers. Searched for
Fanuc cable connectors.
Ed.
Hi all,
I've got 3 pcs. Cubieboard 2 SBC's with the Allwinner A20 SOC Chip on
them. That's kind of a RaspberryPi SBC with an 2 Code Arm7hf on it.
The boards are equipped with HDMI, USB, Ethernet (100Tx), SATA, SD Card
slot and some 4G NAND Flash Cip on it. RAM is 1 Gbyte, CPU Clock is
996Mhz.
Add
Links or OEM / part numbers would be very helpful - Galco have a big warehouse
VMTiA
Martin
-Original Message-
From: Ed via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: 17 January 2025 12:17
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Cc: Ed
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Fanuc Tape Reader PECs 1980&#
On 2025-01-16 19:12, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, 2025-01-14 at 19:50 +, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
As someone in the Atari 68000 camp I'd dispute the idea that 'C'
wasn't
used.
I did most of my Atari 520 programming using TDI Modula-2 and Prospero
F
On 1/17/25 2:22 AM, Doc Shipley via cctalk wrote:
I don't have any real information, but...
I know Fanuc as a manufacturer of industrial and CNC equipment, not
somputing, and I wouldn't be surprised if those connectors come from
that side of their business. Maybe check industrial
herals of the period
Martin
-Original Message-
From: Doc Shipley via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org]
Sent: 17 January 2025 08:23
To: Martin Bishop via cctalk
Cc: Doc Shipley
Subject: [cctalk] Re: Fanuc Tape Reader PECs 1980's - Connector Identification
I don't have any
1/16/25 4:07 PM, Martin Bishop via cctalk wrote:
1980's Fanuc tape reader PECs are fitted with two families of connector I am
unfamiliar with : one is used for power and the other for signal connections
-further detail and pictures in the following VCF post
No joy on Burndy website
Hi!
I have been mostly lurking here, but I have been designing a DRAM board for the
HP1000 A-Series, using a more
modern 72-pin SIMM. The A400 can adress 32Mb of parity ram so I use 17 bits on
a 64Mb SIMM. I have taken
inspiration from the original HP12103X boards and tried to keep away from
es
1980's Fanuc tape reader PECs are fitted with two families of connector I am
unfamiliar with : one is used for power and the other for signal connections
-further detail and pictures in the following VCF post
No joy on Burndy website or at BitSavers - wisdom gratefully received
https://forum.vc
Yes, 1620 addition and subtraction do stop if the addend is shorter than the
augend and there's no further carry.
There was no pre-defined limit to the length of integer operands. If you had
the memory to do it, you could add two 10,000-digit operands. Floating-point
numbers were limited to 99
On Tue, 2025-01-14 at 19:50 +, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
> As someone in the Atari 68000 camp I'd dispute the idea that 'C'
> wasn't
> used.
I did most of my Atari 520 programming using TDI Modula-2 and Prospero
FORTRAN 77.
On 14/01/2025 13:56, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 01:57:44PM -0700, ben via cctalk wrote:
[...]
Funny when the 8 and 16 bit micros hit the market, Algol seemed to vanish
off the face of the earth. Was 64KB too small a address space?
It's likely to be the same re
On 14/01/2025 19:42, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Jan 14, 2025, at 2:35 PM, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk
wrote:
On 13/01/2025 21:11, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Jan 13, 2025, at 3:57 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 2025-01-13 12:18 p.m., Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote:
Huh? Are
Yes, but punch cards did not have to worry about magnets. 😊
On 2025-01-15 5:17 p.m., David Wise via cctalk wrote:
Pretty sure it does stop, if it runs out of addend and there’s no carry.
I think being dumb is the smart thing to do.
Anyone out there collecting Digital UNIX or Tru64 stuff? I'm trying to find the
Alpha version of DECtalk V4.2A that ran on Digital UNIX. The readme file is
easy to find but not the actual package. If you know where it is or have a good
guess, I'd be much obliged (and so will this AlphaPC 164LX runn
Pretty sure it does stop, if it runs out of addend and there’s no carry.
Dave Wise
> On Jan 15, 2025, at 10:58 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 1/15/25 09:49, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>> Yes, it certainly had that feature. I'm not sure about the limits,
On 1/15/25 14:01, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) via cctalk wrote:
> Could we maybe change the subject headers here? Neither Fortran
> nor IBM terminal controllers has anything to do with Algol :-)
I didn't participate in the Algol 68 discussion because I haven't used
Algo
More pics of other bits added to my one drive
Dave
(Sorry if this is a bit of a mess. Some messages got lost in my spam
folder)
Forwarded Message
Subject:Re: [cctalk] Fwd: SBC6128
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 20:32:33 +
From: David Wade
To: Doug Jackson via
On 14/01/2025 22:13, Doug Jackson wrote:
Hi Dave,
That's exactly what I remembered - *infinite* storage across many
volumes :-)
That enclosure looks practical as well. - Whats the PSU? Fortunately
the UK and Aus have the same power 230V (ish).
Given the level of completeness, I would be
Could we maybe change the subject headers here? Neither Fortran
nor IBM terminal controllers has anything to do with Algol :-)
On 1/15/25 09:49, Paul Koning wrote:
> Yes, it certainly had that feature. I'm not sure about the limits, I thought
> the integer limit was 99 digits. The reason for these options is that it's
> directly supported by the hardware, which has arbitrary length integers and
> (up to a limit I for
> On Jan 14, 2025, at 10:48 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 1/14/25 16:50, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
>> On Wed, 2025-01-15 at 00:32 +, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>>
>> I have the 1401 FORTRAN-II compiler. I reverse engineered it from
On 1/14/25 16:50, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-01-15 at 00:32 +, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>
> I have the 1401 FORTRAN-II compiler. I reverse engineered it from
> operational tapes, then the author (Gary Mokotoff) sent me a scan of
> his listings, that he
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 14, 2025, at 6:50 PM, Van Snyder via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Jay Jaeger has built a 1410 using FPGA, including 1401 compatibility. I
> haven't kept up with the status so I don't know whether everything
> works yet.
The 1410 cpu runs and p
Well, verb order does matter, but I appreciate your point.
E.g. in RPN:
1 2 3 * + => 7
1 2 3 + * => 5
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 5:01 PM roger arrick via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Concerning notation, we actually could just set the nouns (numbers) and
> set th
for 1 or 2 operands. What's cool about this is that you can set the
operator and just feed in a series of numbers. 74HCxx and EEPROMs.
-- Roger Arrick -- Tyler, Texas, USA -- ro...@arrick.com --
From: Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk
Sent: Tuesday, Janua
e.com/watch?v=e4t672J3PvM
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0lShWwy_Oc
On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 4:33 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 1/14/25 15:31, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
>
> > F90 was an extension to F77 and was entirely upwardl
On Wed, 2025-01-15 at 00:32 +, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> One defining characteristic of post-1980 languages was the assumption
> of
> a binary radix, as opposed to systems like the 1401 or 7070, which
> were
> decimal and lacked bitwise boolean operations.
I have the
On 1/14/25 15:31, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
> F90 was an extension to F77 and was entirely upwardly compatible with
> it, not an entirely new language.
IMOHO, the most significant revision of the F77 standard by F90 was
that is was acceptable to spell the last 6 letters of the langu
s still at
Microsoft) warned me to avoid the run-time library.
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
Microsoft Fortran was a joke, but I liked Bob Allison, one of the
developers. He retired at age 35. Ryan-MacFarland Fortran was promoted
by IBM for the AT. I reported problems with it.
On Tue, 2025-01-14 at 22:43 +, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> On 1/14/25 14:03, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Fortran 2025, the sixth edition, is rather different from 1956.
>
> F90 was a huge break from earlier versions; the target release date,
> IIRC was sup
On Tue, 2025-01-14 at 14:34 -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> >> A bad reason to pick Fortran or C is having been taught it at school
> >> and then making no effort to update one's skills at any point in the
> >> intervening decades.
>
> On Tue, 14
On 1/14/25 14:03, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
> Fortran 2025, the sixth edition, is rather different from 1956.
F90 was a huge break from earlier versions; the target release date,
IIRC was supposed to be 1988, but there was a great amount of
negotiation. I was an alternate on our fir
A bad reason to pick Fortran or C is having been taught it at school
and then making no effort to update one's skills at any point in the
intervening decades.
On Tue, 14 Jan 2025, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote:
This assumes that your professors are teaching Fortran 66 instead of
Fortran
om
ph: 0414 986878
Follow my amateur radio adventures at vk1zdj.net
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 at 07:32, David Wade via cctalk
wrote:
> Doug,
> Well I fished out the SBC + IOB and tested it. It actually boots from
> both IDE disk and CF card.
> I made a few pictures and video and stuck the
> On Jan 14, 2025, at 4:19 PM, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk
> wrote:
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> On 14/01/2025 20:59, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>>> Baudot, of course, was several domain-specific versions. They didn't even
>>> all have the same letter/figure shift code, neve
On Tue, 2025-01-14 at 15:28 +0100, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 06:51:15PM -0800, Van Snyder via cctalk
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2025-01-13 at 17:16 -0800, Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk
> > wrote:
> > > FORTRAN was a dead end, both in
On 14/01/2025 20:54, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote:
On 14/01/2025 16:28, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 1/14/25 03:50, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 2025-01-13 6:55 p.m., Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk wrote:
I would expect universal condemnation for anyone who would ask if
FLACC
were
On 14/01/2025 20:59, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
Baudot, of course, was several domain-specific versions. They didn't even all
have the same letter/figure shift code, never mind the same symbols in the same
place. You had to just know what the wierdnesses were on any teleprinter that
w
> On Jan 14, 2025, at 3:45 PM, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
> Yeah, I know there were fancy character set machines out there later. Look at
> APL keyboards, for example. ASCII spoiled all the fun.
Fixed in Unicode... :-)
> Baudot, of course, was se
On 14/01/2025 19:42, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Jan 14, 2025, at 2:35 PM, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk
wrote:
On 13/01/2025 21:11, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Jan 13, 2025, at 3:57 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 2025-01-13 12:18 p.m., Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote:
Huh? Are you
On 14/01/2025 16:28, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
On 1/14/25 03:50, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 2025-01-13 6:55 p.m., Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk wrote:
I would expect universal condemnation for anyone who would ask if FLACC
were designed for floppies.
Did mainframes ever have a floppy
On 14/01/2025 19:42, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Jan 14, 2025, at 2:35 PM, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk
wrote:
On 13/01/2025 21:11, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Jan 13, 2025, at 3:57 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
On 2025-01-13 12:18 p.m., Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote:
Huh? Are you
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