All of the messages having been sent to the public forum would apparently
stop me from being PM (see the recent thread). In general, it seems unfair
to have changes to the gamestate occurring without a significant number of
people being apprised of them. I’d urge going the other direction, and
maki
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:55 PM Edward Murphy via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> Jason Cobb wrote:
>
> > On 12/28/19 3:04 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote:
> >> I wrote:
> >>
> >>> If the above initiation was effective, then I resolve it: Falsifian is
> >>> the
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:07 PM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> Aris wrote:
>
> > All of the messages having been sent to the public forum would apparently
> > stop me from being PM (see the recent thread). In general, it seems unfair
> > to have changes to the gamestate occurring wi
I seem to recall hearing once about an incident where a person
attempted to register as a player twice concurrently under different
names. Does anyone know where that precedent can be found? It's
relevant to a thesis that I'm thinking of writing.
-Aris
Whoops. That error is in my latest distribution too. Sorry all.
-Aris
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 3:40 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 12/19/19 1:38 AM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> > For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
> > quorum is 3
>
>
> I think quorum was 4, s
On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 6:45 PM Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Dec 2019, AIS523--- via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 2019-12-29 at 03:32 +0100, Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >> The simplest way I can see to fix th
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 8:55 PM Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I will refrain from posting the address of the MUD for a few days,
> although if anyone wants to, they can probably work it out. There are
> two reasons: First, I would like to see who is interested in
>
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 8:13 AM James Cook via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 06:09, Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > *Sigh* I seriously think considering history to be a part of game state
> > may have been a mistake, but apparen
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 8:20 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> Dear lord - all the messages are in the archives and any officer can find
> them - can we just ratify that those messages HAPPENED instead of undoing
> them. It seems much more complications
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:56 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> Would anyone complain/object if I ratified a "false" Herald's Report
> that claims the Notices of Honor received during the Troubles were
> successful?
>
> Looking at the message list that Murphy nicely assembled for Propo
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:12 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > This gets me thinking of a potential big and maybe-interesting-maybe-not
> > big change to the order of things... what if officers presumptively
A draft report follows.
-Aris
---
I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
quorum is 4, the voting method is AI-majority, and the valid
options
The simplest option would be to just cut AiaN from the clone.
-Aris
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:50 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> I proto'd a similar rule using the “parallel nomic” implementation a while
> back, and someone (G?) worried that the parallel nomic’s Agora Is A Nomic
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:24 PM Aris Merchant
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:12 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:00 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> > > This gets me thinking of a potential big and maybe-interesting-maybe-not
> > >
hat's the fun in that? Seriously, if the CFJs don't have a major
impact on the future of the game, it's just boring. This way is more
fun.
-Aris
> > On Jan 8, 2020, at 9:09 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:07 AM Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> Aris wrote:
> > A minimalist proto along the lines of #1 follows. This could be a
> > complex interconnected set of 15 rules, but I think it would be more
> > fun to leave it as minimal as possible at let the judicia
TBH, there's no real reason to disallow 1-member contracts. It doesn't
make sense under real world contract law, but Agoran contracts can
also function like corporations.
-Aris
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 1:10 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> Yeah, the rules need to handle open-ended
The MUD is now open. The server is at agora.ddns.net
Port 4000 is telnet.
Port 4001 is HTTP.
Port 4004 is SSH.
Port 4005 is webclient-websocket.
-Aris
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 6:35 PM James Cook wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Nov 2019 at 06:11, Aris Merchant
> wrote:
> > Here's a draft that separates out contracts from pacts, and creates an
> > office of Notary to track contracts and pledges. NOTE: Volunteers are
> > needed for Notary! Apply now!
>
> I r
I think this addresses everyone's concerns. Comments are welcome.
-Aris
---
Title: Contract Patency v2
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Aris
Co-authors: Jason Cobb, Falsifian
Amend Rule 2519, "Consent", to read in full:
A person is deemed to have consented to an action if and only if:
1. e, act
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 2:42 PM AIS523--- via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2020-01-08 at 14:31 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > I think this addresses everyone's concerns. Comments are welcome.
> [snip]
> > Amend Rule 2519, "Consent&qu
’m not *that* unhappy with
> the proposal as it stands, so I would probably vote FOR even as it is.
>
> Gaelan
>
> > On Jan 8, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> >
> > I think this addresses everyone's concerns. Comments are w
Gaelan's comments made me think of a way to tear out pacts completely.
It's a bit less backwards compatible, but also vastly simplified.
-Aris
---
Title: Contract Patency v3
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Aris
Co-authors: Gaelan, Jason Cobb, Falsifian
Amend Rule 2519, "Consent", to read in full:
I made several changes, including clarifying that the judiciary has
judicial review over memoranda. I also decided to go in the direction
of making memoranda purely interpretative, because I have other plans
for gamestate changes that have more safeguards. I've allowed them to
be like CFJs or regul
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 6:28 PM Ørjan Johansen via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
>
> >>> 1. e, acting as emself, has publicly stated, and not subsequently
> >>> publicly withdrawn eir state
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:26 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
>
> On 1/11/2020 10:53 AM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 13:25, Jason Cobb wrote:
> >
> >> I suppose. I was considering keeping them to try to bribe people, but
> >> since they're pretty useless, that w
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 3:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
>
> On 1/12/2020 3:15 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > Herald's Weekly report
> >
> > Date of Last Report: 07 Dec 2019
> > Date of This Report: 12 Jan 2020
>
While your at it, your report seems to suggest that there both is and
isn't
We haven’t awarded Silver Quills for any year since 2015. 2019’s awards
will be dealt with in this year’s awards month, but that leaves 2016, 2017,
and 2018. Would anyone mind if I, as Promotor, suggested Silver Quills for
those years? I was only Promotor for part of 2016, but it was a very
inactiv
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 8:34 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On 1/12/2020 3:21 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 3:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
> > wrote:
> >>
>
On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 5:45 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 19:05, Aris Merchant via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 1:28 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-official
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The below CFJ is 3792.
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:45 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 1/16/20 9:39 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 19:38, AIS523--- via agora-discussion <
> > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 15:05 -0800, Kerim Ay
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:18 PM AIS523--- via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 19:07 -0800, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > You're half right. Regulated actions have been around forever, but
> > after I ruled in my manifestly terrible opi
Hello! I have proposals for y'all. (G. pardon for borrowing your
proposal as part of this; if you want it back, it's yours, I just
wanted to show how it might fit into the overall scheme.)
I did a rethink on my goals for introducing administrative law to
Agora. My big motivation was not so much to
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:53 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
> I like the ideas, as I've said before (although I haven't yet thoroughly
> combed through these drafts for any bugs). One thing, though:
>
> These two mechanisms seem redundant to me - an adjustment applies "all
> changes",
They're just so minimal and lightweight that getting rid of them feels
like a tragedy.
Also, any takers for Notary?
-Aris
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 8:31 PM James Cook wrote:
>
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 01:24, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > Amend rule 2450, &qu
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 8:57 AM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> >> On Jan 17, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> >> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 1/16/2020 7:45 PM, Aris Merchant via a
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 4:14 PM omd via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 2:48 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > So this judgement actually extends the concept of physical reality quite a
> > bit, by saying "even though no rule outright forbids this, we're still
>
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 7:40 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 1/16/20 10:45 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> > Title: Consolidated Regulatory Recordkeeping
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: Aris
> > Co-authors:
> >
> >
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 8:27 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I intend, without objection, to make the following cleanings (in numerical
> order if I do not specify otherwise when I resolve the intents):
>
> - Rules 879 and 2556 by replacing each instance
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 10:31 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 01:01, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 8:27 PM Ale
What exactly are the expectations for theses? It's not very well
spelled out in the relevant rule (probably something we should fix).
I'm working on a thesis, on and off, and I want to make sure I'm doing
it right.
-Aris
My gut feeling is that this is a bit overcomplicated. There are too
many categories. Additionally, I dislike this sort of pragmatization.
The generally platonic model has served Agora well the vast majority
of the time. I don't have extended reasoning here, those are just my
initial reactions.
-Ar
Here's a draft. The actual report will be about a day late; I
sincerely apologize for my tardiness, and I hope the extra day won't
cause significant trouble. Given how big this distribution has turned
out to be, I don't feel comfortable sending this out without a draft
to catch errors.
-Aris
---
I
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 4:06 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 18:52, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > My gut feeling is that this is a bit overcomplicated. There are too
> > ma
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 4:20 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
>
> On 1/19/2020 3:29 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > Twg, can we have the same warranty (in public, to be clear) from you?
> > I phrased it so that it works the same way even with your whole zombie
> > thing
Okay, that was astonishingly convincing. I’m not going to change my
personal approach to scams (at the very least ones that use my official
position; I don’t think I’ve ever stated on record that I’ll never write a
scam proposal, though I’ve also scrupulously avoided doing so). However,
you have co
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 6:21 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 20:42, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > What I will not do, barring sufficiently persuasive arguments to the
> > contr
The vast majority of thesis publications I’ve seen are either legal or
historical. If anything, this is exactly the sort of thing that shouldn’t
qualify for a J.N. IMO, it’s about public policy, not rule interpretation.
-Aris
On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 7:05 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business <
agora-
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 6:08 PM James Cook via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 21:44, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > Our precedents on message timing are pretty messy because we never had
> > complete agreement there - but I'm pre
On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 9:44 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
>
> On 1/22/2020 8:13 PM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Jan 2020 at 02:11, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> >> Why are we reading the date-stamping to
Why would we want this? Our system is explicitly designed to make sure
that people can't announce intent to do something with support or with
Agoran consent, and then single-handedly tank the intent. That sort of
thing was the source of scams (or at least I seem to recall hearing it
was) and requir
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 1:34 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 1/20/20 10:22 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:
> > //
> > ID: 8299
> > Title: The Reset Button v2
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: Aris
>
Here's a new version of the Reset Button that would resolve various
concerns that have been raised. Tell me what y'all think.
-Aris
---
Title: The Reset Button v3
Adoption index: 3.0
Author: Aris
Co-authors: G., twg
If no proposal whose title contains the text "Administrative Adjudication"
has pa
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 3:48 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-business
wrote:
>
> I vote as follows, and act on behalf of o to vote as follows:
>
> > 8288 omd 1.0 Glitteral
> Endorse the Treasuror. This takes away the requirement to specify the
> reward amount explicitly in the an
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 4:32 PM Tanner Swett via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> I register again.
>
> —Warrigal
Welcome back!
-Aris
>
>
I'd prefer a "This contract does not allow anyone to act on behalf of
its members except as explicitly provided to the contrary", if that's
part of the intent. Otherwise, ordinary proposals could potentially be
used to allow appropriation of non-contract assets from members, which
I don't think is
Oh, another thing. What about nonmember parties to the contract?
Nothing protects their rights, which makes things very dicey if one
ever loses one's share. Three possible solutions: 1) Automatic
ejection of non-shareholder parties; 2) a provision that one cannot
transfer a share if it would cause
Thank you! Thank you! You have no idea how much easier this makes to fit in
the authors on a proposal distribution.
(Please, no one respond by being contrary and expanding their Agoran name.)
-Aris
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 7:28 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wro
Agora has been around a very long time, and it looks like it’ll be around
much longer. That means that, someday, inevitably, my worst nightmare will
come true. Unless we do something to stop it.
A Prophecy of Doom
One day, all of a sudden, the lists fail. The archives go down with them.
An Agoran
r it’s history goes).
>
> Gaelan
>
> > On Jan 27, 2020, at 9:59 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> >
> > Agora has been around a very long time, and it looks like it’ll be around
> > much longer. That means that, someday, inevitably, my worst nightm
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 12:03 AM omd via agora-discussion
wrote:
> I suppose I could mirror the archives on GitHub, which would be less
> idiosyncratic and more resilient to me getting hit by a bus. That
> would, however, imply giving up on obfuscating email addresses, unless
> I made the repo p
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 12:47 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 1/28/20 2:14 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 12:03 AM omd via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I suppose I could mirror the archiv
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 2:23 AM omd via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 9:07 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > Personally, I’m vaguely of the opinion that we should switch to
> they/them instead of Spivak in general. Our use of
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 9:41 PM Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:06 AM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > [...]
> > > On Jan 23, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
> > > wrote:
> > > Of course, "TCC" stands for "the TCC Corpor
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:46 AM Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> I've been thinking about what makes Agora difficult to play as compared to
> other games.
>
> Something I've noticed about the current rules is that lots of game actions
> and effects are all woven together in such a way
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 12:31 PM Alexis Hunt wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 15:22, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>>
>> Oh, light, no. Last time we tried to store money as accounts it was an
>> infernal mess. It lead to a never ending series of b
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:44 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
>
> On 1/29/2020 11:17 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote:
> > Having achieved a full set of 16 Ribbons, including the new Emerald
> > Ribbon, I Raise a Banner, causing me to win the game.
>
> Congratulations!!
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 2:38 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business
wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 17:34, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 29, 2020, at 1:46 PM, Alexis Hunt via agora-business <
> > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 4:23 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On 1/28/20 10:26 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> > Amend Rule 2438 ("Ribbons") as follows:
> >
> > Replace the paragraph starting "While a person qualifies..." with
> > the following:
>
>
> I know this is pro
Erm... you might want to check this list again. You have it going 3, 4, 6,
7.
-Aris
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 5:52 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 13:45, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org>
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 6:08 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 20:45, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-business <
> agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > Jason wrote:
> > > On 1/28/20 10:26 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> > >
> > > >
A few comments:
* "Body of law" is a very long phrase for such an important concept.
Could we try to come up with something shorter? If not, we could
shorten it to "BoL", though that doesn't have quite the same ring as
"CoE".
* Your proposal titles are very long, and the Promotor's office would
re
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 6:52 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
>
> On 1/29/2020 5:14 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote:
> > G. wrote:
> >> awww - i'd seen that and my birthday is Feb 4th
> >
> > Same, though it sounds like it wouldn't have gone unnoticed until May
> >
Here's a draft report. Comments are, as always, highly appreciated.
-Aris
---
I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the Agoran
Decision of whether to adopt it, and removing it from the proposal
pool. For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the
quorum is 7, the voting
I caught an error: Rewards Patch & Equitable Remedy is AI 1.0.
-Aris
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:08 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> Here's a draft report. Comments are, as always, highly appreciated.
>
> -Aris
> ---
> I hereby distribute each list
Another error: The title of the proposal "Sergeant-at-Arms" was not in
the full text section.
-Aris
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:13 PM Aris Merchant
wrote:
>
> I caught an error: Rewards Patch & Equitable Remedy is AI 1.0.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at
>
> -Aris
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:13 PM Aris Merchant
> wrote:
> >
> > I caught an error: Rewards Patch & Equitable Remedy is AI 1.0.
> >
> > -Aris
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:08 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
&
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:27 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 23:08, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > Here's a draft report. Comments ar
On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:45 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed., Jan. 29, 2020, 23:35 Luke Tyler via agora-discussion, <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > > Amend Rule 2532 (Zombies) by:
> > > - appending "A player CAN, without
For rule cleanings, it would be nice (IMHO) to have who cleaned the rule be
part of the annotation, for the historical record. One could tack something
like “on the application of ” onto the end of the annotation so
that we’d know who did it. Obviously, this wouldn’t apply retroactively
unless some
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 9:20 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
>
> On 1/30/2020 9:06 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 17:03, James Cook wrote:
> >> Here's a somewhat different way we could do it:
> >>
> >> * An announcement resolving a decision does
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 9:10 AM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
>
> On 1/30/2020 9:03 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 16:55, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 10:32, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
> >> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 3:05 AM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> On Thu., Jan. 30, 2020, 00:47 Aris Merchant via agora-discussion, <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> > If you’re going to do a revision, I’d appreciate it if you made the zombie
>
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:18 AM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
wrote:
>
> Ugh, so, I just realized with G.'s recent point about the tally of
> votes in Agoran decisions possibly being self-ratifying, that
> ratifying the outcome of a decision could have all sorts of
> backwards-propagating effe
Oh, I caught another thing. For "Legal fictions are evaluated in
chronological order", is that chronological order of creation (which I
think you mean) or chronological order of
starttime/midtime/endtime/something else? Please make it explicit in
the text.
-Aris
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 10:56 AM A
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 5:08 AM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> On 1/30/20 1:31 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> > For rule cleanings, it would be nice (IMHO) to have who cleaned the
rule be
> > part of the annota
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:21 AM Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
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> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 14:00, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
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> > Please cut the natural fact/legal fact distinction. It isn't helping
> > anything, and is just confusing and unne
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 7:53 AM Alexis Hunt via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Wed., Jan. 29, 2020, 23:29 Aris Merchant via agora-discussion, <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> > > > 8312# Alexis 1.0
I’m not Alexis, but I do have some replies of my own.
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 5:11 PM omd via agora-discussion
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> > A legal fiction's direct effects
> > are retroactive to the time so specified, for which it operates
> > notwithstanding any rule to the contrary. Beyond that time, its
> >
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 5:30 PM Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
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> I have a half-serious half-proto-proposal:
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> "Implicit Ratification", AI: 3
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> Repeal all rules relating to ratification. Enact the following rule: {
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> In the course of playing the game, it is inevitable that from ti
I had an idea for making degrees more interesting. I was thinking that
the Herald might, for instance, record twg's degree not as "A.N." (if
it ends up being an A.N.) but as "A.N. in Devious Oratory". We could
go back and find appropriate subjects for all of the existing degrees
with surviving thes
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 3:10 PM Alexis Hunt via agora-business <
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 at 15:37, Kerim Aydin via agora-official <
> agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> > The below CFJ is 3805. I assign it to Aris.
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> > ===
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 9:25 PM Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
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> Gratuitous postmortem arguments on CFJ 3796:
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> I don't think it's necessary to bring Rule 217 into this at all; scams
> of this type simply can't work. I'll explain why I think that.
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> Imagine that the city of Grand R
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 4:05 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
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> On 2/1/20 6:57 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > I intend, with 2 support, to group-file a motion to reconsider.
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> I self-file a motion to reconsider in CFJ 3788.
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> > This
> > seems to me to fundamentally m
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 4:17 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 2/1/20 7:14 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> > No worries, it happens to all of us. That's why we have review
> > mechanisms in place. The review
(TTttDF forward.)
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 8:17 AM James Cook via agora-discussion
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> This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction", in
> the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification
> failing due to minimal gamestate changes being ambiguous. It is
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 6:25 PM James Cook via agora-discussion
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> Questions for anyone interested in Agora:
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> 1. Would you be interested in seeing an Agoran newsletter? Not like
>"Last week in Agora"; I mean something more carefully written and
>covering a longer span of time.
Y
On Sun, Feb 2, 2020 at 10:43 PM Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
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> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 01:05 omd via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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> > Hmm... Good point. It shouldn't be. The point was to clarify that
> > even if the gamestate doesn't have a list of le
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:47 AM James Cook via agora-discussion
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> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 17:34, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
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> > On 2/6/20 12:02 PM, James Cook wrote:
> > > It's not clear to me your judgement would break self-ratification of
> > > switch reports. Aris's documen
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 8:04 PM James Cook via agora-discussion
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> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 23:52, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
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> > Falsifian wrote:
> > > Welcome Tcbapo!
> > >
> > > A lot happened last week. twg won the game the hard way. Many parts of
> > > the rules are
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