*slaps head* Okay, that makes my prophecy quite a bit less terrifying, now doesn't it. I don't know how I never thought of that. I've been worrying about this for literally years. It goes back pretty far, though it's hard to tell how far (it only goes to 15 pages of results by date for each list, despite having more). However, it's a lot less convenient IMO then the archives (better if you want to search, but it's harder to get a picture of what's going on). So losing access to the main archives would still be bad, but I'm not sure if it would be bad enough to justify the thesis.
By the way, I won't be offended at all if this never gets a thesis. I do have future plans for other theses, I just thought this might get me my A.N. -Aris On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:12 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > Speaking of which, last I checked, the link (at the top of the mailman > archive) to download the full archive is broken. > > In terms of your actual thesis, it’s worth mentioning that mail-archive.org > <http://mail-archive.org/> would also have to go down (although I’m not sure > how far it’s history goes). > > Gaelan > > > On Jan 27, 2020, at 9:59 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion > > <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > Agora has been around a very long time, and it looks like it’ll be around > > much longer. That means that, someday, inevitably, my worst nightmare will > > come true. Unless we do something to stop it. > > > > A Prophecy of Doom > > > > One day, all of a sudden, the lists fail. The archives go down with them. > > An Agoran quickly notices and alerts the backup list, unless by some > > terrible twist of fate that is down too, in which case e sends their > > message directly to every player listed in the last Registrar’s report > > (plus any new arrivals). E contacts the Distributor as well, informing em > > of what has taken place. > > > > Everyone waits, at first with patience, then with annoyance, and then with > > fear. They wait for the Distributor to respond. Days pass. Then a week. > > More emails are sent. Finally, someone says “E’s never going to respond, is > > e?” The Speaker sends out a message, claiming that as the figurehead leader > > of all Agora, e should assume control. The Prime Minister, a popular > > newcomer who has been recently elected to the office and has little > > experience, quickly agrees. > > > > Orders are sent out. New lists are to be established. Recent reports are to > > be copied from mailboxes or officer’s archives. The gamestate is to be > > reconstructed. A new Distributor is to be chosen. > > > > Eventually, it is all set up. Everything runs again. Except for one thing. > > The archives, containing everything that has happened in Agoran history > > since 2002, are gone. The past soon turns to legend, with older players > > recounting stories to the newcomers, and upon occasion searching their > > inboxes for aged texts, relics of a past almost forgotten. Perhaps some old > > backups are found, but they are years out of date. Much of Agoran history > > is still lost, like that of the days before 2002 is now. > > > > The End > > > > To the best of my knowledge, we have no contingency plans for preserving > > Agoran history in such an eventuality. Our Distributor is amazing, but > > sooner or later e will die, and that death may come before e has > > transferred control of the archives to a successor. Perhaps e even has > > backups in secure locations, and has left instructions for what to do with > > them, but what if a fire destroys all copies, or some other grave > > misfortune occurs? > > > > I believe that this eventuality is the worst thing that could ever happen > > to Agora. Even if the game were somehow ossified, we could fix it with a > > hard fork. It’s questionable whether the new game would still really be > > Agora, but it would be close enough. However, we have no redundancy to keep > > our history, our most prized treasure, safe. I think we should do something > > about that. I don’t know what. > > > > -Aris >
