How is this intended to fix anything? It just looks like it breaks voting
strength to me.
Original message From: Aris Merchant
Date: 5/7/17 03:02 (GMT-06:00) To:
agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Subject: BUS: Counter-scam
I hereby distribute each listed proposal, initiating the
'Other tham emself'. Also, why not allow heirs to be organizations?
Original message From: Owen Jacobson Date:
5/3/17 22:07 (GMT-06:00) To: Agora Nomic - Business
Subject: BUS: [Proposal] The Lazarus State
(revision 2)
Serves me right for trying to do half a job: now I have
1:01 AM, Nic Evans wrote:
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> I submit the following proposal.
>
> Title: Granular Paydays
> Adoption Index: 1
> Author: nichdel
> Co-author(s): Aris
>
> Flip the Payrate of every office to 2.
>
> Amend rule 2484 (Payday) to read, in full:
>
> P
Please don't tie an important emergency system into an experimental system.
There's no way you could define 'unusable' that would be satisfactory.
Original message From: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Date: 4/30/17 08:48 (GMT-06:00)
To: "Agora Nomic discussions (DF)" Subje
On 01/17/2017 01:19 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, nichdel wrote:
|天火狐 | F|
Claim of error: this vote was invalid as per CFJ 1460.
The vote was submitted in English:
http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg27875.html
> As for Proposal 7839
On 01/16/2017 09:17 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 5:19 PM, nichdel wrote:
>> I like the idea of re-introducing Assets. I would like to see Ribbons
>> and Trust Tokens properly defined as transferable assets, and ensure
>> that Organizations can h
On 01/16/2017 06:25 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote:
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>> On Jan 16, 2017, at 1:58 AM, nichdel wrote:
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>> On 01/07/2017 04:00 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote:
>>> An Agoran Decision is within the scope of a sale contract if the
seller has not
>>> yet voted in a numbe
On 01/16/2017 06:10 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
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> You know, I had an idea. For some reason I don't think people will
> like this, but... I was just looking at the January 2010 contract
> system. And it's possible to reenact that. If you want it to work
> cleanly, you have to reenact several seeming
On 01/07/2017 04:00 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote:
An Agoran Decision is within the scope of a sale contract if the seller has not
yet voted in a number of resolved Agoran Decisions equal to the vote count of
that contract. For the purposes of this Charter, the seller has voted in an
Agoran Decision if
The thing about emergency provisions is that they create backdoors and
loopholes, which are exactly the things that cause their need. I'm
generally against new ones unless they have a very specific
justification.
Culture and rule interpretation is a feedback loop. You suggest that
we protect agai
On 01/14/2017 10:48 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
I pay o 5 shines, for assistance editing my proposal. [I'd buy eir
vote on it instead, but quite frankly the AVM charter is somewhat long
and confusing. This would be so much easier if someone would just
write a proper contract system (or revive an old
On 01/14/2017 01:40 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote:
Any player’s or organization’s balance, I think?
Oh yeah, might as well protect both while we're at it.
In effect,
Supply Level is a singleton switch, tracked by the Secretary, whose only
possible value is 1000.
Let me make sure I understand t
On 12/05/2016 04:36 AM, ais523 wrote
So it now costs shinies to pend proposals, but nobody will have any
until 2017 (possibly later, if it turns out that the Secretary's powers
to award shinies are buggy; the "if doing so is specified by a rule" is
fairly vague).
I can think of several ways out
On 11/06/2016 06:31 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote:
On Sun, 6 Nov 2016, nichdel wrote:
Final quorum: 0
I think this should be 2.
Greetings,
Ørjan.
Two people cast no ballot at all, or even mentioned 7830. I included the
"N"s for convenience.
On 11/06/2016 04:57 AM, Luis Ressel wrote:
On Sun, 6 Nov 2016 02:57:43 -0500
Owen Jacobson wrote:
I CFJ, barring Aris "If Proposal 7821 were resolved right now, the
outcome would be ADOPTED.”
If.
It might be premature to declare victory, since proposal 7821 is NOT
yet resolved, and the rules
On 11/04/2016 08:05 PM, ais523 wrote:
The largest problem is that you haven't specified an officer to track
the switches.
Woops, lost it in editing. Meant to be the Secretary.
Currencies typically need to have multiple dimensions so that a varying
exchange rate can be set up between them.
Out
On 11/03/2016 11:20 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 12:55 PM nichdel <mailto:nich...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 10/28/2016 11:18 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
> ID Author(s)
On 08/23/2016 11:42 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
Just tried d...@nomic.net (for judicial rolls) and got nothing. Anyone
know a functional dice server (or used that one recently/know its status?)
I just tried this site to success:
https://dicelog.com/maildice
You need to confirm your email with
On 08/15/2016 11:17 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
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> Now, of course, we've got the "generic" method by which any title
> (including the above) can be awarded with the right level of Support.
> This came about, in part, with the start of the trend (~2004?) to award
> arbitrary Patent Titles via scam prop
On 08/10/2016 08:16 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016, Jack Henahan wrote:
I believe cygneus is an adjective meaning "swan-like". Cantus Cygnei,
then, would be "Song of the swan-like things",
It would mean "swan-like songs", surely? There is no genitive there,
unlike with "cygni
On 07/23/2016 12:24 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
I submit & pend the following proposal, No Dungeon, AI=1:
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Repeal Rule 2454 (The New Map)
[Just throwing out a stub without an idea behind it didn't do much]
---
Did I m
Secretary reports list eir budget in the ABM. E should have no budget switch if
e is not a player.
Original message From: Kerim Aydin
Date: 8/3/16 18:30 (GMT-06:00) To: Agora Discussion
Subject: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJs Regarding
OscarMeyr
On Wed, 3 Aug 2016, nichdel wrote
PS for G. - I sent you an email (from this email) wrt the proposal and
your meter maid proposal a couple days ago. Dunno if you saw it.
--nichdel
On 07/26/2016 08:05 AM, ais523 wrote:
> On Mon, 2016-07-25 at 10:19 -0500, nichdel wrote:
>> On 07/25/2016 08:34 AM, Luis Ressel wrote:
>> > * Reward pending: If a proposal is adopted, the player who pended it
>> > earns 1 PP
>> This would also work wit
On 07/25/2016 06:02 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
WHEREAS: The Patent Title Distributor was previously rules-defined
as belonging to the administrator of the main fora;
and WHEREAS: That particular definition was repealed before the
current administrator took up eir role;
and WHEREAS: as Patent Ti
On 07/25/2016 12:07 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016, nichdel wrote:
On 07/25/2016 08:34 AM, Luis Ressel wrote:
* Reward pending: If a proposal is adopted, the player who pended it
earns 1 PP
This would also work with the economic proposal that's in progress.
Papyrii wou
On 07/25/2016 12:42 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
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>
>
> Are numerical Switches inherently ordered?
Probably not, but that doesn't necessarily break anything.
Number theory tends to define with sets (which are unordered on their
own), but the first-order functions (namely successor) are also defined
On 07/25/2016 08:34 AM, Luis Ressel wrote:
> * Reward pending: If a proposal is adopted, the player who pended it
> earns 1 PP
>
This would also work with the economic proposal that's in progress.
Papyrii would be necessary for pending, and players other than the
author would have incentive to
Welcome!
On 07/14/2016 01:15 PM, Sci_Guy12 . wrote:
I wish to play nomic with you. I have some experience with Blognomic.
--
Sent from my lightspeed hyperloop at the far reaches of a distant
parallel universe.
On 07/13/2016 04:06 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jul 2016, nichdel wrote:
* Substantial successful proposals.
* CFJs that generate significant controversy.
Just empirically, I think I disagree. I think the "most enjoyable" play happens
when a set of rules are stable enou
On 07/12/2016 08:02 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote:
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> The real question is, what does Agora’s economy produce? I can think
of “rules proposals” and “reports,” and nichdel’s game prototype thread
suggests a few more things. Can we use a monetary game to incentivize
those effectively?
>
I'd make an
On 07/13/2016 02:24 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2016, Owen Jacobson wrote:
On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:00 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
Power is one of the most enduring structures of our game.
Here's a proto to shake it up a bit.
The obvious question: why? This proposal introduces a fair bit
On 07/11/2016 05:52 PM, Charles Walker wrote:
>
> I tend to prefer economies that link up with the rest of the game
> somehow: rewards for getting proposals passed and holding offices, and
> Agora-wide benefits to playing the subgame (extra votes, etc.). This
> hopefully turns it into a game which
On 07/11/2016 02:00 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
[Note: this allows each branch to establish entirely different Rule Change
procedures, or any other procedures].
It would be really cool to have the Executive Branch oversee all
sub-games, and have mechanisms to change sub-games (add, remove, amend)
w
On 07/02/2016 02:08 PM, nichdel wrote:
Before I start typing up the proposal, I want some feedback on a game
idea. The game would involve a Puzzle Master (which I'd be glad to
pledge to do for 6 months) who issues 3 puzzles a month, at any time
within the month (minus a week to allow ti
or quite a number of reasons, and making a competition out of it
encourages the coders to try to find better ways to parse agoran chatter
rather than changing our language to accommodate the automatons.
Ultimately I understand, and support, the want to offload work on
computers. But I'd like agora to continue as a human-human affair
with machines augmenting the boring bits. There's a fine line between
recording actions and constraining them here.
--nichdel
Looks like my tree got squished. In a flat format:
Herald, Tailor, Secretary -> Speaker.
Promotor, Assesor -> Rulekeepor -> Prime Minister
Registrar -> ADoP -> Prime Minister
Referee -> Arbitor -> Prime Minister
--nichdel
bunch of old documents to their new style.
Again, any feedback appreciated.
--nichdel
On 07/10/2016 03:40 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
I considered that originally, but then wanted to rewrite deputisation
more completely, eventually threw out that idea, and apparently forgot
my original plan in the process. Incidentally, your formulation makes it
obvious that the fourteen day limit is
On 07/08/2016 04:21 PM, Luis Ressel wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 14:08:09 -0500
nichdel wrote:
[snip]
In general, this sounds like a neat idea to me. Make that logic puzzles
instead of language-related stuff and I'm in. :)
Believe me, I'd rather do logic puzzles, I just don'
Before I start typing up the proposal, I want some feedback on a game
idea. The game would involve a Puzzle Master (which I'd be glad to
pledge to do for 6 months) who issues 3 puzzles a month, at any time
within the month (minus a week to allow time to respond). Each puzzle is
of a different c
On 06/30/2016 09:58 AM, Charles Walker wrote:
On 29 June 2016 at 13:33, Charles Walker wrote:
The glossary is a good idea for introducing new players to the rules,
but I'd also suggest a short 'How to Play Agora' guide which gives
someone enough information to start playing immediately. I might
vantages of including a wiki with Agora. It could be informally
maintained by all players in one place without adding yet another
office or report. And due to the magic of wikis, it can point readers
directly to the relevant rules. For the time being I'll host a WIP
glossary on my own wiki:
http://hearthgate.net/agorawiki/Glossary
Thoughts, concerns, critiques?
--nichdel
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 07:07:58AM -0700, Joe Stefek wrote:
> Did all of these nominees accept these nominations? A nominee must
> explicitly accept a nomination for office unless they nominate themselves.
>
> --aperfectring
> On Oct 25, 2013 6:10 AM, wrote:
>
> > The nomination period on sever
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