Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7839

2017-01-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, nichdel wrote: > On 01/17/2017 01:19 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, nichdel wrote: > > > |天火狐 | F| > > Claim of error: this vote was invalid as per CFJ 1460. > > > > > The vote was submitted in English: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/agor

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7839

2017-01-16 Thread nichdel
On 01/17/2017 01:19 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, nichdel wrote: |天火狐 | F| Claim of error: this vote was invalid as per CFJ 1460. The vote was submitted in English: http://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg27875.html > As for Proposal 7839, I vote

Re: DIS: Porto-Proposal: Bring back Assets

2017-01-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 17, 2017, at 1:06 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > {Reenact rule 2166, Assets (Power = 2), with the folowing text: > An asset is an entity defined as such by a rule (hereafter its backing > document), and existing solely because its backing document defines its > existence. > > Each asset

DIS: Porto-Proposal: Bring back Assets

2017-01-16 Thread Aris Merchant
{Reenact rule 2166, Assets (Power = 2), with the folowing text: An asset is an entity defined as such by a rule (hereafter its backing document), and existing solely because its backing document defines its existence. Each asset has exactly one owner. If an asset would otherwise lack an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread nichdel
On 01/16/2017 09:17 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 5:19 PM, nichdel wrote: >> I like the idea of re-introducing Assets. I would like to see Ribbons >> and Trust Tokens properly defined as transferable assets, and ensure >> that Organizations can hold them as well. The question

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 5:19 PM, nichdel wrote: > We're working on the same parts of the game, so we should compare notes. > > In the summer I proposed that the "Domestic Product" of Agora is its own > story. A good economy is in tune with this, which leads me to propose > some principles of a go

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Founding the Agoran Voting Market

2017-01-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 9:00 PM, nichdel wrote: > > On 01/16/2017 06:25 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > > I hope not, but the wording of that clause is not great. My intention was > > that a sale stays open until someone buys it, not that it stays open until > > either someone buys it or an Agora

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Founding the Agoran Voting Market

2017-01-16 Thread nichdel
On 01/16/2017 06:25 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> On Jan 16, 2017, at 1:58 AM, nichdel wrote: >> >> On 01/07/2017 04:00 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >>> An Agoran Decision is within the scope of a sale contract if the seller has not >>> yet voted in a number of resolved Agoran Decisions equal to the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 16, 2017, at 8:19 PM, nichdel wrote: > I like the idea of re-introducing Assets. I would like to see Ribbons > and Trust Tokens properly defined as transferable assets, and ensure > that Organizations can hold them as well. The question there: who tracks > that activity? We either keep th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread nichdel
On 01/16/2017 06:10 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > You know, I had an idea. For some reason I don't think people will > like this, but... I was just looking at the January 2010 contract > system. And it's possible to reenact that. If you want it to work > cleanly, you have to reenact several seeming

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 16, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >> If you invent contracts, do you necessarily invent civil law to go with >> them? I know Agora’s had contract systems with teeth a few times, and every >> one I’ve been able to di

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > If you invent contracts, do you necessarily invent civil law to go with them? > I know Agora’s had contract systems with teeth a few times, and every one > I’ve been able to dig up has come with _some_ kind of empowered judiciary - > eve

DIS: Re: BUS: Referee election

2017-01-16 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 4:23 PM Owen Jacobson wrote: > > I vote as follows: > > > > * o, > > * Aris, then > > * G. > > > > -o I vote endorse o. -Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jan 15, 2017, at 3:26 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 8:57 PM, nichdel wrote: >> >> I'm currently looking into changes to organizations and agencies to simplify >> and bring them in line with the new economy. Could either include a contract >> system with that, or

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Founding the Agoran Voting Market

2017-01-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 1:58 AM, nichdel wrote: > > On 01/07/2017 04:00 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> An Agoran Decision is within the scope of a sale contract if the seller has >> not >> yet voted in a number of resolved Agoran Decisions equal to the vote count of >> that contract. For the purpose

DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jan 14, 2017, at 11:48 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> I pay Aris 3 shinies, for research assistance. >> >> -o >> > I pay o 5 shines, for assistance editing my proposal. [I'd buy eir > vote on it instead, but quite frankly the AVM charter

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 8:57 PM, nichdel wrote: >> > >> > I'm currently looking into changes to organizations and agencies to >> > simplify >> > and bring them in line with the new economy. Cou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Services rendered

2017-01-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 8:57 PM, nichdel wrote: > > > > I'm currently looking into changes to organizations and agencies to simplify > > and bring them in line with the new economy. Could either include a contract > > system with that, or (the 'free ma

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Emergencies

2017-01-16 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2017-01-16 at 14:03 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > > With regards to our culture, Agora's culture is fairly easy to > change. > > Try repealing Rule 104 if you think this :). There's a difference between changing a culture in the short term, and ma

Re: DIS: Proto-proposal: Emergencies

2017-01-16 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > With regards to our culture, Agora's culture is fairly easy to change. Try repealing Rule 104 if you think this :).