Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-03-25 Thread Taral
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > They aren't a currency, and the rules very very strongly imply that > non-currency assets are not fungible. Imply isn't worth the number of letters to spell it. Game custom strongly implies that they are fungible. -- Taral "Please let me know

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Posture Flip

2009-03-25 Thread Roger Hicks
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 21:42, Sean Hunt wrote: > I submit the following proposal, AI 1, II 0, named {coppro Discusses Too > Much}: > {{{ > Amend rule 1922 by adding a bullet with the following text: > {{ >      (i)  All Talk, to be awarded to someone who repeatedly and >           consistency se

DIS: Re: BUS: Posture Flip

2009-03-25 Thread Sean Hunt
Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I flip my posture to sitting. > > -Yally I flip my judicial rank to Supreme.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining other nomics

2009-03-25 Thread Aaron Goldfein
Getting a little off topic here... Internomic gives two weeks to respond to all submitted proposals. Don't you think the ambassador should instead be required to submit all of Internomic's proposals for voting so that the general Agoran population can participate in each Internomic decision? -Yall

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-03-25 Thread Sean Hunt
Taral wrote: > What makes you think Rests aren't fungible? They aren't a currency, and the rules very very strongly imply that non-currency assets are not fungible.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-03-25 Thread Taral
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I withdraw the CoE, having noticed that the appeals panel can only > destroy those Rests created with regards to the previous judgment, and > that those Rests were never created according to the self-ratified March > 15 Fnord!. Since Rests are no

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-03-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/26 Kerim Aydin : > well yeah, that's why I remember it... do you suppose you still have those > particular rests? I think I do. I hope not to in the near future, though.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-03-25 Thread Sean Hunt
Kerim Aydin wrote: > Ooh boy. > > But if rests are not fungible, the recordkeepor would be required to > track each rest as a distinct thing, and attempts to destroy rests > would have to match, e.g. "I hereby destroy the rest that was created > when I broke rule foo." We don't do that. > > Ther

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-03-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Elliott Hird wrote: > 2009/3/25 Kerim Aydin : >> There was a previous time this came up, when some of ehird's rests >> were judged > > ...by you :-) well yeah, that's why I remember it... do you suppose you still have those particular rests?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-03-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/25 Kerim Aydin : > There was a previous time this came up, when some of ehird's rests > were judged ...by you :-)

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-03-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > Sean Hunt wrote: >> Ed Murphy wrote: >>> Denied. The history reflects that destruction. (The real discrepancy >>> is the creation of those rests in the first place; it happened on March >>> 10, but I missed including it in the March 15 report.) >> >> CoE:

DIS: Proto: Nomic Wars III

2009-03-25 Thread Roger Hicks
Attempting to revive this because I think it had potential that was never explored previously. In an effort to overcome comex's scam on Nomic Wars II, and to combat past objections that the contract could be used to mousetrap participants I have separated the "nomic wars" game from the contract lan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-03-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Taral wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> CoE: No CoE was submitted; the March 15 report has since self-ratified. >> Taral has two Rests more than e should. > > Yay! I don't mind this at all, but I wonder if self-ratification shouldn't be slightly l

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Moderately difficult puzzles

2009-03-25 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/25 Ed Murphy : > You could put them on a web page and announce the URL. > Aaargh! Think of the archivists!

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Insulator] Fnord!

2009-03-25 Thread Taral
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > CoE: No CoE was submitted; the March 15 report has since self-ratified. > Taral has two Rests more than e should. Yay! -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Moderately difficult puzzles

2009-03-25 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 10:16 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >>> /me considers sending Enigma puzzles via private email to all >>> contestants to avoid a repeat of this sort of thing in the future... >> -1, if non-contestants don't see

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining other nomics

2009-03-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, comex wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> But if I don't want to clutter the ruleset with "If Agora has not >> joined Internomic 2, the ambassador SHALL join internomic 2 in a >> timely fashion", how should I do? > > "...the ambassador SHALL

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining other nomics

2009-03-25 Thread Sean Hunt
comex wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> But if I don't want to clutter the ruleset with "If Agora has not >> joined Internomic 2, the ambassador SHALL join internomic 2 in a >> timely fashion", how should I do? > > "...the ambassador SHALL join Internomic 2 in

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining other nomics

2009-03-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > But if I don't want to clutter the ruleset with "If Agora has not > joined Internomic 2, the ambassador SHALL join internomic 2 in a > timely fashion", how should I do? "...the ambassador SHALL join Internomic 2 in a timely fashion. After

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining other nomics

2009-03-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > although I can imagine a proposal creating a > platonic, power-1 obligation floating around in nomicspace somewhere... It's called "Invisibilitating" and it is actually still a Crime, as far as I know! So do it at your own risk! -Goethe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining other nomics

2009-03-25 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/25 Alex Smith : > On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 19:12 +0100, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >> Okay, I guess I didn't really know exactly what was allowed since I >> just read "outline changes to the gamestate". The only thing I can see >> that would stop it is that it requires higher power than the 1 it ge

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining other nomics

2009-03-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 19:12 +0100, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Okay, I guess I didn't really know exactly what was allowed since I > just read "outline changes to the gamestate". The only thing I can see > that would stop it is that it requires higher power than the 1 it gets > from adoption index, bu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining other nomics

2009-03-25 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/3/25 comex : > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> Add the following after the third section of rule 2148 (the ambassador): >> "If a foreign nomic allows for one player to join on behalf of Agora, >> only the ambassador may do so. The ambassador MAY then, without 3 >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Calls for appeal

2009-03-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, comex wrote: >> Testing, sorry for the spam > > Uh oh... any time-sensitive cron activities coming up... Oh I'm sorry, that came out wrong. I'm meant to be Cassandra... BEWARE.THE IDES.OF CRON...

DIS: Re: BUS: Calls for appeal

2009-03-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, comex wrote: > Testing, sorry for the spam Uh oh... any time-sensitive cron activities coming up...

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Moderately difficult puzzles

2009-03-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 10:16 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > > /me considers sending Enigma puzzles via private email to all > > contestants to avoid a repeat of this sort of thing in the future... > > -1, if non-contestants don't see the puzzles unti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Moderately difficult puzzles

2009-03-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > /me considers sending Enigma puzzles via private email to all > contestants to avoid a repeat of this sort of thing in the future... -1, if non-contestants don't see the puzzles until it's too late, then they have less inclination to join the c

DIS: Re: BUS: Calls for appeal

2009-03-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 10:27 -0400, comex wrote: > Testing, sorry for the spam I object. (Sorry, couldn't resist...) -- ais523

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Calls for appeal

2009-03-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 06:24 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > > I intend to appeal CFJ 2426 with 2 support, because its reasoning is > > based on that of CFJs 2424 and 2425, and they should therefore be > > appealed as a set or not at all. > > ITYM 2423. > Oh, I misread your message, a

DIS: Re: BUS: Calls for appeal

2009-03-25 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > I intend to appeal CFJ 2426 with 2 support, because its reasoning is > based on that of CFJs 2424 and 2425, and they should therefore be > appealed as a set or not at all. ITYM 2423.

DIS: Re: BUS: Joining other nomics

2009-03-25 Thread comex
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Add the following after the third section of rule 2148 (the ambassador): > "If a foreign nomic allows for one player to join on behalf of Agora, > only the ambassador may do so. The ambassador MAY then, without 3 > objections, take any acti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Moderately difficult puzzles

2009-03-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 18:46 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: > Alex Smith wrote: > > "READ ME" by ais523: > Oh drat, I made a mistake! New answer (suffers no ambiguities!): > > 8414004 > Answers only count if submitted privately. (You've made this bad enough, make sure that your answer officially counts a