Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread Mathew Howard
I would use 80ghz... probably Siklu. If you want to do it cheap, 60ghz should be fine at that distance too. IgniteNet and Mikrotik 60ghz have both worked well for us, Siklu is probably better, but also far more costly. On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:22 AM Dennis Burgess via AF wrote: > .6km use a Wi

Re: [AFMUG] OT - rocket daredevil Mike Hughes dies

2020-02-24 Thread Mathew Howard
I think he probably really just got into the whole flat earth thing because he figured out that flat-earthers were crazy enough to give him money to build rockets... On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 10:04 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > If he didn't die in a crash he would have died in a steam explosion. He >

Re: [AFMUG] OT - rocket daredevil Mike Hughes dies

2020-02-24 Thread Mathew Howard
building consensus. Saw the video of the launch and > subsequent crater, kind of morbid. Whackadoodle for sure, hopefully he > passed out at launch as suspected and didn't see the full ride to the end. > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:40 AM Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> I

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-24 Thread Mathew Howard
At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so it really comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and specific requirements. If the project isn't cost sensitive, and you want the best you can get, then just go with 80ghz... there basically is no cheap junk for that band,

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

2020-02-24 Thread Mathew Howard
It's not so much that one is better than the other, as that they have different uses. If I expected everything to be LOS I wouldn't even consider using LTE over 450, but if I expected most stuff to be NLOS, then I wouldn't even consider 450. On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 3:42 PM David Williamson < dwill

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
Those all appear to just be the normal common cold coronaviruses. This one would be COVID-2019 or something like that. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:30 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > What is the strain designation of the current "crisis" coronavirus? > > As I said earlier, they are testing for some strain

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
grandfathered status is pretty much irrelevant at this point anyway... if I understand right, it goes away after April regardless of when your license expires, and since CBRS is really just starting to get deployed now, it's probably not going to make much difference to most people. But yeah, the

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
T give you grandfather status in regard to > CBRS. it just allows you not to cease operations in april. > Nobody has been very clear on what that means if a CBRS operator puts up > gear, I would assume it gives them the right to petition FCC to do cease > and desist on you. >

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
eep on >>> keepin on!! >>> >>> -Sean >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lewis Bergman >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot. >>>> >>>> On Mo

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-25 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm thinking the Cambium LTE CPE might be the best option even if we don't use their basestations... it'll be interesting to see what they come up with. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:41 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > +1 on all counts. > > My experience with LTE CPE wasn't a lot better. If you point out a

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
xpires. On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 6:56 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > > On Feb 25, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > > > > > > I would assume that if a CBRS operator puts up gear that you're > interfering with, it's going to be handled pretty much

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
zen of them and they are rock solid and fast! Been really >>> amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) that they keep on >>> keepin on!! >>> >>> -Sean >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lewis Bergman >>>

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
It's a 5-6db increase, if I remember correctly, so that could certainly be enough to make the difference in a lot of cases. Of course there's also the fact that half of the people running Baicells radios with sectors are probably already running (illegally) at that power level anyway... On Wed, F

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
ularly when more sensing > capability comes into play with SAS 2.0, you do not want to be the guy who > gets nailed. Apparently this iteration of the SAS modality is an entry run > for a much larger spectrum management, as is the cowboy days are over > moving forward > > On Wed, Feb

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
wing a higher cost. > > Just reach out to Ken and he'll quote you the pricing I'm talking about. > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 9:05 AM Josh Baird wrote: > >> It may be WISPA member pricing. >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:02 AM Mathew Howard >> wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
>>> gets nailed. Apparently this iteration of the SAS modality is an entry run >>> for a much larger spectrum management, as is the cowboy days are over >>> moving forward >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:54 AM Mathew Howard >>> wrote: >&g

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
would very much second that statement - make sure you are following >>> all the rules for 90z going forward. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:25 AM, Mathew Howard >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, but tricky part is going t

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
ny liability for FCC fines. > > > On 2/26/2020 11:20 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > It seems to me, that just about anybody with the proper knowledge could > start a service like that... you'd basically just have to be willing/able > to take on the liability for any FCC fine

Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
it isn't that far. > > > > bp > > > > > > On 2/26/2020 9:08 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Is the range equivalent? > > > > *From:* Kurt Fankhauser > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
m versus 20Mhz at +40dBm.Some of the improvement in > airtime obviously comes from the wider channel size but the bigger change > was the higher power and quieter spectrum moving everyone into 6x/8x > modulation. > > Mark > > On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: &

Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 NN License Expiry

2020-02-26 Thread Mathew Howard
s wrote: > If you were certified, and you received a fine, then whoever did the > certification absolutely should be the one accountable. Thats the entire > purpose, ensuring you are compliant. Its no different the your CPI in CBRS > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:02 PM Mathew Howard

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Mathew Howard
In reality, I think it's a combination of all of those, with the exception of "3.65 GHz somehow is absorbed less by foliage than other mid band frequencies", which I've never seen any evidence for in the real world. Plus the fact that we're allowed to use quite a bit higher EIRP than 2.4ghz or 5ghz

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium LTE

2020-02-27 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, Baicells CPE report signal in RSRP, rather than RSSI like most of the radios WISPs are used to, and I think that's pretty much standard for LTE radios, in general. You can get away with low signal levels when there's no noise and no load on the AP, so it seems great when you put your first f

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LTE

2020-02-28 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't think it ever came up on this list... I had no idea about it either until a week or so ago. On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 11:14 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Holy crap, I must be way out of the loop, but I never saw anything on this > list about "bleary's" situat

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Mathew Howard
Which is another reason to tell people not to buy masks... if healthy people are buying up all the masks, which are doing them little or not good, and there aren't any left for the people that are infected to wear, that isn't exactly ideal. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:28 AM Bill Prince wrote: > Th

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-02 Thread Mathew Howard
MUM Europe was cancelled, it looks like USA and Mexico are still scheduled for mid-April. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 11:21 AM Steven Kenney wrote: > Apparently MUM has been canceled because of the panic. > > -- > Steven Kenney > Network Operations Manager > WaveDirect Telecommunications > http://www

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Mathew Howard
If it has to be done through the GUI it's going to be pretty tough to script it... maybe not impossible, but probably more work than doing 200 of them manually. If it could be done through SNMP or SSH, that would be another matter, but it doesn't sound like it can. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 1:54 PM

Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade

2020-03-02 Thread Mathew Howard
*Steve Jones > *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2020 3:09 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cNMaestro mass SM key upgrade > > > > Who says it cant? > > I wonder if the key is stored in the config file > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 a

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-03 Thread Mathew Howard
Because bottled water is what you buy when you're preparing for impending doom... apparently. I can see stocking up on a few weeks worth of supplies, so you can go out as little as possible, but the risk of losing power/water doesn't exactly seem high. On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 6:04 PM Forrest Chris

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-03 Thread Mathew Howard
t ton of salt. > Its almost pointless in city limits to maintain an armageddon level stash. > After 2 weeks the unprepared will be out of resources and youll spend more > time shooting them than sleeping. > People who think toilet paper and water are survival goods will make a > fine din

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-03 Thread Mathew Howard
; On Tue, Mar 3, 2020, 7:23 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > >> I'm not sure you'd want to be using those walking bags of water in the >> case of a disaster caused by a virus... >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 6:37 PM Steve Jones >> wrote: >> >>> I

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHZ phased array antenna: 1G @ 1 mile

2020-03-04 Thread Mathew Howard
yeah, the antenna itself doesn't look all that special, other than "They deliver consistent gain response over the 57-71 GHz unlicensed frequency band over a wide operating temperature range", and 44dbi with a 390mm dish is a couple db improvement over what's available now, but the fact that they h

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Mathew Howard
Ah yes, I see the answer to all our problems now. Stockpile Corona beer instead of water and it will protect you from the virus... or you'll be too drunk to care. On second thought, Everclear is probably a better option... you'll be much drunker, and you can use it as hand sanitizer. On Wed, Mar 4

Re: [AFMUG] OT - is Elon Musk nuts?

2020-03-05 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious that he's nuts... but being nuts seems to be working out pretty well for him. On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 6:09 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Yes. He's nuts. > > He'll solve the problem of delivering a colony to Mars, but has anyone > solved the problem of how they'll act

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mathew Howard
I read that half of the people on the Diamond Princess cruise ship that tested positive for the virus didn't have symptoms... if that's true, and those people are able to spread it, there are almost certainly a LOT of people running around with it. That also means that the death rate is probably wa

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mathew Howard
It's interesting that the one country that is testing lots of people (South Korea) has had a death rate well under 1%. On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Corollary: we need to test lots of people, and get the infected ones to > stay away from nursing homes, cruise ships and unpr

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Perhaps they just immediately bury anybody that's infected... On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:52 AM wrote: > I find it hard to believe that North Korea is missing out on all the fun. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 9:47 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Us

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, but who'd wanna eat infected Soylent Green? Or do they use Steve's purification process... ? On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 11:04 AM wrote: > Soylent Green > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, March 9, 2020 10:00 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Su

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-03-09 Thread Mathew Howard
t; it doesnt, its simply on the door handle > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 10:17 AM Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> I read that half of the people on the Diamond Princess cruise ship that >> tested positive for the virus didn't have symptoms... if that's true, and >&g

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hiring

2020-03-10 Thread Mathew Howard
I think his secret is that he's hiring people to build spaceships... On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:55 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Some people are not “morning people”. Maybe schedule interviews in the > afternoon. On the other hand, if the job involves showing up at 8am, maybe > this is the first test

Re: [AFMUG] Another naughty climbing video

2020-03-10 Thread Mathew Howard
I wonder how often those guys die... On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:50 AM Steven Kenney wrote: > Don't try this at home kids... in fact don't try it at all. > > At least he had his hard hat on. > > https://youtu.be/VEyofVMEzmA > > -- > Steven Kenney > Network Operations Manager > WaveDirect Telecomm

Re: [AFMUG] Another naughty climbing video

2020-03-10 Thread Mathew Howard
g without a harness, while I feel scared for > them, I know the reality is that 99.5% > of these people will be just fine. > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 1:02 PM Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> I wonder how often those guys die... >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:50 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Done

2020-03-10 Thread Mathew Howard
ehh... 25G isn't that bad at that height. On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 4:07 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I would not climb a free standing 25G above 20'. They feel too squiggly at > 30'. I'm OK with a 30-footer if it is braced at 10' or above. > > You got some spicy huevos there Jaime. Should have been we

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

2020-03-11 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I think it's actually the exact same CPU as the 2011... which isn't exactly great compared to the newer Mikrotiks, but it's certainly capable of working as a router. On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:09 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > CRS125 may be marketed as a “switch”, but CPU and RAM are comparable to

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

2020-03-11 Thread Mathew Howard
I think that must have to do with how the CPU is connected to the switch. The test results actually are the same for all of the 512 and 64 byte tests... it's just that the CRS appears to be limited to a maximum of 983.7 Mbps. Probably has something to do with the fact that there are two separate sw

Re: [AFMUG] OT test please

2020-03-11 Thread Mathew Howard
Same here On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:27 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > Just loads the header. > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:23 PM wrote: > >> We had some issues. Maybe it is fixed. Looks good to me but not to Josh. >> >> Could the borg see if our site is working properly please? >> https://www.

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

2020-03-11 Thread Mathew Howard
I've had 4011's lock up a few times... I think I may have had it happen on an RB1100AHX4 as well, but I'm not sure about that... in one case, I replaced an 1100ahx4 with a 4011, and I know that happened there at least once, but I don't remember if it was before or after it was replaced. That wouldn

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

2020-03-11 Thread Mathew Howard
It seems to me that the number of deaths and critical cases is a lot more meaningful than the total reported cases... all that really tells you is that lots of people were or weren't tested in a particular country. I don't have any idea what's actually going on in Italy as far as testing, buy judgi

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

2020-03-11 Thread Mathew Howard
I've never known PacketFlux PDUs to fail... with other stuff, we certainly had that problem. On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 5:13 PM Nate Burke wrote: > I used to do that, back in the day. Then I had the problem where the PDUs > Started failing and turning everything off more than the PDUs were helping

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

2020-03-11 Thread Mathew Howard
We have the knowledge to make our own pizza... we don't need them! On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 4:55 PM James Howard wrote: > You can’t nuke Italy and France. How would we survive without pizza and > french fries? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

2020-03-11 Thread Mathew Howard
hmm... so if we nuke France, we'll have to go back to eating freedom fries instead of french fries? On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 6:20 PM wrote: > Well, I used to eat freedom fries before my blood sugar issues... > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:17 PM &

Re: [AFMUG] OT military secret things

2020-03-11 Thread Mathew Howard
That looks like a fun job... On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 5:18 PM Nate Burke wrote: > You said EMP, I read it as EPMP. I thought maybe this was a > mu-MU-MMUU-MIMO antenna. > > On 3/11/2020 3:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > One of my sons is working on a project for the USAF in NM. This is an EMP

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

2020-03-11 Thread Mathew Howard
oh... that sounds beautiful! On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 6:47 PM Steve Jones wrote: > it will still be there, it will just be a glow in the dark skating rink, > just toss some sliced potatoes and oil on the glow ice and youll have > french fries > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 6:43 P

Re: [AFMUG] B52 on the test stand

2020-03-11 Thread Mathew Howard
Taking off could be a problem too... On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 7:51 PM Steve Jones wrote: > was that a test of some sort, or just some guy said "bet you cant put a > b52 up there" > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 7:46 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone-- >> AF mailing list >>

Re: [AFMUG] OT test please

2020-03-12 Thread Mathew Howard
You have a dirty mind... but the website works fine. On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:22 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Electric cactus porn > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 3:17 PM can...@believewireless.net < > p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > >> It was slow initially but better now. >> >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

2020-03-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Things seem to have calmed down a bit today... I didn't go to any grocery stores, but I went to Mendards, and I'd say there was roughly a quarter as many people on there as on a typical Saturday, and there was very little traffic on the streets for a Saturday. I think we must be too the point where

Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

2020-03-15 Thread Mathew Howard
at hurt. >>> >>> bp >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/14/2020 5:33 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >>> >>> I can tell you're joking because you said "clips". >>> >>> Unless you have an M1 Ga

Re: [AFMUG] seriously, we have to say 5G does not cause coronavirus?

2020-03-16 Thread Mathew Howard
Nah... nobody is going to believe that. We already know that 5G is going to kill everybody... or at least turn people into mindless zombies. On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:18 PM can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > Put out an article that says 5G CURES the virus. Only peopl

Re: [AFMUG] OT Aintcha glad

2020-03-16 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah... people still need to eat, and who wants to go into a grocery store... On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:27 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Restaurant wouldnt be all that terrible, lower overhead if you do pickup > or delivery > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 1:20 PM wrote: > >> You don’t own a bar, restaura

Re: [AFMUG] OT Preppers

2020-03-17 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm not sure why you would even want anything else... On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:49 PM can...@believewireless.net < p...@believewireless.net> wrote: > Do you really need anything else to live on? > > "The takeaway here is if you need bacon and hard liquor you're good to > go." > > > > On Tue, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] Covid19 bandwidth

2020-03-18 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, it makes sense that would mainly be an increase in daytime usage, and that's mostly what we're seeing as well. I do expect the upload thing to be a problem though... On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:21 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Kind of the same here, peaks not that much higher, but heavy usage all

Re: [AFMUG] OT..Just because

2020-03-19 Thread Mathew Howard
Is it really ever too early? On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:20 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Fridge...too early > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 12:11 PM James Howard wrote: > >> Where is the Tecate? >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Thursday, March

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-19 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't know that Russia's numbers are terribly inaccurate... it's really just starting to spread there now, and the numbers aren't far off what other countries reported early on, and the cases they have reported are almost all in Moscow. They also have much tighter border controls than most of the

Re: [AFMUG] Wb Surge suppressor surface contact

2020-03-19 Thread Mathew Howard
I've soldered a ground wire onto thesis a few times, but I like Steve's approach better... much easier to change it later, or to move it to a chassis. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:01 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Looks OK to me. > > > > I assume you want to use the modules later in a chassis, but you coul

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-19 Thread Mathew Howard
ens this as a promising >>> number. The ONLY people being tested for the most part, are those in the >>> very high probability category. So of those assumed to be infected, only 8 >>> percent of them actually are. >>> >>> We still havent hit global

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: shelter in place question

2020-03-23 Thread Mathew Howard
I think ebay actually banned all face mask sales because of that... On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Nobody could argue that an auction was gouging could they? Does EBay > still do auctions? > On 3/23/2020 11:04 AM, James Howard wrote: > > Just think how much you could sel

Re: [AFMUG] OT Covid measures at work

2020-03-28 Thread Mathew Howard
You should do something about those lice... On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:29 AM James Howard wrote: > You should be a comedian.{Grumble grumble as I scratch my head} > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jay Weekley > *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:22 AM >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

2020-03-28 Thread Mathew Howard
I got the paywall too, but I just hit the stop button before the paywall loaded, and it worked fine. On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:49 AM wrote: > Odd, it asked me for my email address to sign up for nat geo Covid > articles but it let me through. > I just googled nat geo covid and clicked on the li

Re: [AFMUG] OT: usually 10.00

2020-03-29 Thread Mathew Howard
Hey! Muenster is the best cheese there is... On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 3:48 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Don't buy Munster. > > > bp > > > > On 3/29/2020 12:57 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > Wow. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mai

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD long distance usage

2020-03-31 Thread Mathew Howard
We've done several links in the 3-4 mile range with 24ghz... they drop pretty regularly, but I don't know that 6 miles would be too much different, as far as that goes. I'm pretty sure you won't get full capacity out of it at that distance, but you should be able to get 400Mbps. Considering the pr

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9

2020-03-31 Thread Mathew Howard
The FCC has been talking about adding that 45mhz to the top of the 5ghz band for awhile, so there's a pretty good chance it will become permanent. I assume pretty much any 5ghz radio out there can probably support it with a firmware update, but I wonder what these 33 companies are using... they'd

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9

2020-03-31 Thread Mathew Howard
I would think you'd still want to work on other options for long term capacity, but it would certainly be nice way to get some quick capacity increases with little or no tower work. I'm wondering how hard it is to get in on this... On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 2:19 PM Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > My co

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 FCC Form 601/STA?

2020-04-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Considering that's showing firmware 2.4.3, I suspect it's just an ROW radio... On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 1:47 PM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > you apparently have the new firmware, did anyone get the Ubiquiti firmware > yet? > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 1:05 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> I just fired up

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, technically, yes, lent is over, but since today and tomorrow are still penitential days, it effectively doesn't end until Easter (and you do have to count until Sunday to get a full 40 days). On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 1:12 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Last evening and now we are in Triduum...Good

Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

2020-04-13 Thread Mathew Howard
It's too bad there's no GPS in it though... On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:30 AM Steve Jones wrote: > This thing is pretty cool. Looks like they just robbed the guts of a 3k > ap and put it in the e500 housing. If it's got the aux port then you could > use a force 300 to backhaul into it with just o

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

2020-04-13 Thread Mathew Howard
I wish they had these charts per state or metro area, but I haven't found that anywhere yet (not that I've spent a lot of time looking... ) The problem with this, is that it's pretty much just showing the NYC curve at this point (since everything else is buried under those numbers), and doesn't re

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

2020-04-13 Thread Mathew Howard
; look every once in a while but this is the only one. Not that it's wrong > or anything, just like seeing multiple sources. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 202

Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

2020-04-13 Thread Mathew Howard
mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, April 13, 2020 10:55 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP > > > > It's too bad there's no GPS in it though... > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2

Re: [AFMUG] 3000 MicroPOP AP

2020-04-13 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't remember if I asked that or not, but I'm assuming it won't On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:53 AM Steve Jones wrote: > will it do data port sync? > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:55 AM Mathew Howard > wrote: > >> It's too bad there's no GPS in it t

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

2020-04-13 Thread Mathew Howard
gt;> >> Interesting that the worst place for COVID-19 cases is Blaine County >> Idaho (> 2,000 cases per 100,000 population), and the Bundies are at it >> again. >> >> bp >> >> >> >> On 4/13/2020 8:33 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

2020-04-13 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, if you're just going to your spot out back, there aren't doorknobs, etc. to touch... might actually be more sanitary. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 1:38 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Building code in this locality requires a toilet in any work place. Like > an unmanned storage building doesn't need

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

2020-04-14 Thread Mathew Howard
I agree! That's a horrible thing to say about a cesspool! On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 1:39 PM James Howard wrote: > FakeBook is a cesspool? What an insult! How could you say something > like that?! > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Tuesday, Ap

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

2020-04-14 Thread Mathew Howard
That is true, but I hear houses burn down sometimes... On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 8:54 PM Steve Jones wrote: > That doesnt happen. Everything is always on the up and up. I'll throw you > three tecate to agree > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 8:00 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> I have $20.00 if you need to

Re: [AFMUG] funny - Sierra la Puerta

2020-04-21 Thread Mathew Howard
Да, Стив прав! On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:02 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Nein, ist es nicht!!! > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 11:27 AM Steve Jones > wrote: > >> Das raycess >> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 9:48 AM Jaime Solorza >> wrote: >> >>> What do you call someone who speaks three languages? T

Re: [AFMUG] Need AirFiber5x

2020-04-21 Thread Mathew Howard
There were lots of them on ebay, last I checked. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:35 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Hi Jamie, > > I think we have a decommissioned pair in our storage. I’ll go look later > today. > > -Sean > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 2:31 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> We need an older mo

Re: [AFMUG] funny - Sierra la Puerta

2020-04-21 Thread Mathew Howard
Da, tovarisch On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 4:00 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Cryllic , comrade? Spasibo > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020, 2:37 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > >> Да, Стив прав! >> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:02 PM Jaime Solorza >> wrote: >> >>&g

Re: [AFMUG] Need AirFiber5x

2020-04-21 Thread Mathew Howard
That's not true! The fact that it had garbage gain was just one of several reasons why nobody bought it... it was also the size of a small house, only supported half of the 5ghz band and used a ton of power. I don't think there are any other true full duplex 5ghz radios out there though, so it did

Re: [AFMUG] Need AirFiber5x

2020-04-21 Thread Mathew Howard
I think Mike (and myself) assumed that you were talking about the AF5 because Sean posted a picture of an Airfiber5 (not X). But yeah, I assume they just quit production of the AF5x because sales dropped down to nothing when the HD came out. But that does make me curious... why would you prefer t

Re: [AFMUG] Need AirFiber5x

2020-04-21 Thread Mathew Howard
Ehh... the AirFiber 5x is a good radio. If it's a new link, or replacing both ends, then the Airfiber 5xHD is generally a pretty good replacement. The HD is better than the old 5x in some ways, and a bit worse in other ways, but they're both good radios. On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:32 PM Jaime Solor

Re: [AFMUG] Need AirFiber5x

2020-04-21 Thread Mathew Howard
t> wrote: > Because of a radio failure. Two tower climbs is much more expensive and > time consuming than just swapping a radio. > > On Apr 21, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Ehh... the AirFiber 5x is a good radio. If it's a new link, or replacing >

Re: [AFMUG] Need AirFiber5x

2020-04-21 Thread Mathew Howard
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:05 PM, Kurt Fankhauser >> wrote: >> >> How is a AF5X better than the AF5XHD? I'm curious as to what ways you >> mention. So far the only way i have found is the SNMP OID's are totally >> screwed up and not functioning in the HD versio

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

2020-04-23 Thread Mathew Howard
You'll just have to start identifying as a dog... On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:34 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > So here in Illinois, pet grooming will now be allowed, but I still can't > get > a haircut. Dogs will be better groomed than humans. > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of ch..

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hope?

2020-04-28 Thread Mathew Howard
Sneezing may not be a symptom of covid, but if you have covid and sneeze... just think of all those droplets going everywhere... Shooting sneezers seems pretty reasonable to me. On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 2:17 PM Steve Jones wrote: > nope, but cant risk spread, sneezes get you shot, coughing gets

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 11 radios

2020-04-28 Thread Mathew Howard
Really, if you're doing a link longer than 7-8 miles, you should be looking at different radios. You're going to have a much better link with radios with better tx power. But that still leaves the problem that I just don't like their dishes... and there are good reasons to use a different brand of

Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan

2020-04-28 Thread Mathew Howard
"long pig" is different than ordinary pig... On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 4:26 PM James Howard wrote: > Since when have pigs not been people? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:57 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Getting ready to go grocery shopping

2020-04-29 Thread Mathew Howard
Hey, the mask is to protect other people, not the wearer... a loaner will work just fine... On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 6:45 PM wrote: > Loaner masks... > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2020 5:17 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Getting

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Getting ready to go grocery shopping

2020-04-29 Thread Mathew Howard
Iron Mask, Hannibal Lechter, Bane, The Gimp. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:02 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Getting ready to go grocery shop

Re: [AFMUG] Hit the big time - Cambium Case Study

2020-05-01 Thread Mathew Howard
I bought one of the less common variants of the M-TOW from, I think, Streakwave a few years ago, and it came with a rather aged looking candy bar... that's the only time I ever got one :( On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 3:26 PM wrote: > We never lost any because we would use a heat sealer to put the cand

Re: [AFMUG] Point to point

2020-05-04 Thread Mathew Howard
Depends... if 5ghz is acceptable, I'd probably look at either Ubiquiti AF5xHD, or Cambium PTP550. If you don't want to or can't use 5ghz, then either airfiber 11 or something much more expensive. On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 4:19 PM wrote: > Need to go 7 km. > More than 100 mbps but probably less than

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-05 Thread Mathew Howard
It seems to me, that what really matters is how many deaths there have been in excess of what the average was for the same period in previous years (yes, I know that's what they're talking about in the NYT article, but I'm too lazy to read it all and see how much detail they go into). We can argue

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