Good to know. That's an incredibly good deal... definitely what I'd go
with. You'll probably be paying at least that for a 1Gbps link from any of
the other manufacturers.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:20 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
wrote:

> Yes I ran into the same thing with the web store showing a higher cost.
>
> Just reach out to Ken and he'll quote you the pricing I'm talking about.
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 9:05 AM Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It may be WISPA member pricing.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:02 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there some kind of special pricing or something? I logged into my
>>> Aviat account, and it's looking more like $7k for a link to me.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:05 AM Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes - this is the WTM4800.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:53 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That is an insane value proposition over the AF24HD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which specific radio, the 10G single band 4800?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
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>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
>>>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
>>>>>
>>>>> The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with
>>>>> dishes and everything.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good choice Lewis!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast!  Been
>>>>>> really amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) that they 
>>>>>> keep
>>>>>> on keepin on!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lewis Bergman <
>>>>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so
>>>>>>>> it really comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and specific
>>>>>>>> requirements.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the project isn't cost sensitive, and you want the best you can
>>>>>>>> get, then just go with 80ghz... there basically is no cheap junk for 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> band, so just pick your favorite vendor and buy what they have.
>>>>>>>> If you do want to go cheap, then there are a few things to
>>>>>>>> consider. Ignitenet an Ubiquiti (although I don't think their radios 
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> actually shipping yet), have an extra channel at the top end of the 
>>>>>>>> band
>>>>>>>> that can get a bit better range, which the Mikrotiks can't (legally) 
>>>>>>>> use...
>>>>>>>> but that's not really going to make a lot of difference at that 
>>>>>>>> distance
>>>>>>>> anyway. Ignitenet is the only one with an SFP port, if that matters, 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> they also have a radio that's capable of 2.5gbps, instead of only 
>>>>>>>> 1gpbs...
>>>>>>>> they're also the most expensive of the cheap options. Mikrotik uses a 
>>>>>>>> beam
>>>>>>>> forming antenna, so they're about 100000x easier to aim then the 
>>>>>>>> Ignitenets
>>>>>>>> (I believe Ubiquiti does as well, but I haven't used their radios yet).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> None of the cheap 60ghz radios are true full duplex radios, but I
>>>>>>>> think they're all capable of delivering a full gig in each direction 
>>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>>> same time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you don't want cheap, but don't want to deal with 80ghz
>>>>>>>> licensing (which is pretty cheap and simple, but it is another thing 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> has to be done), then Siklu 60ghz would probably be a good option. Or 
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> could just stick with AF24HD, which will certainly do the job, but
>>>>>>>> considering what they cost, it makes more sense to me to just go with 
>>>>>>>> 80ghz
>>>>>>>> at that distance. You could also go with Mimosa B24 for 24ghz, but 
>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>> half duplex radios, and I don't think that they can handle a full 2gbps
>>>>>>>> aggregate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:09 AM dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess it depends on the 9s you want.
>>>>>>>>> Cheaper is not always better for consistency.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2/24/20 8:36 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No way I would consider AF24HD for this.  You can get 80ghz links
>>>>>>>>> for less that do MUCH more throughput (10Gbps).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vendors in this space include Bridgewave, Siklu and Aviat.  Aviat
>>>>>>>>> probably gives you the best bang for your buck.  Cambium has a new 
>>>>>>>>> mmWave
>>>>>>>>> product, but I don't know anything about it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not sure which product mentioned but the PTP550 unlicensed will
>>>>>>>>>> take all of your 5g spectrum and
>>>>>>>>>> there is the ptp850E
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/24/20 8:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What are the current recommendations for something like this. I
>>>>>>>>>> see Cambium has something that looks like it will work but their 
>>>>>>>>>> product
>>>>>>>>>> selector returns no matches .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ubiquiti has the 24HD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anything else I should be aware of?
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