Re: [AFMUG] OT Mandatory vaccinations

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
I had the nasty liquid. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 12:09 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Mandatory vaccinations I remember standing in line to take my polio sugar cube when I was in grade school. I don't know who mandated it (it was a rural grade school in ce

Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Those are fun. I used to carry them in my RadioShack store. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 12:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending You ever think about trying something like this? It does a cool air blast but the sound seems like som

Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
I gave up yard work for Lent. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 2:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Growth Well, technically, yes, lent is over, but since today and tomorrow are still penitential days, it effectively doesn't end until Easter (and

Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Is this at the base of the tank? Reading pressure? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 2:50 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pulse sending Stuff I am installing tomorrow On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 1:29 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: I am installing somethin

Re: [AFMUG] OT...round enchiladas

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
That is just cruel at this time of day... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 3:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT...round enchiladas Lightly fried tortillas, red Chile sauce, white muenster cheese, white onion... Bubbly and a jalapeno Provecho --

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
If you buy one, like to borrow it for a week or so... From: Tushar Patel Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 4:41 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review? Time has come for us to get a little more accuracy on our sector antennas. Any input on the

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
I might have to use a screwdriver to tweak its internals a bit... From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 3:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review? After the boss gave the funding OK the two things I really looked for after reading

Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review?

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
As long as you are ok with a couple of those stickers covering screw heads getting a bit messed up... From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 4:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smart Antenna Alignment review? youll definitely need to sign the paper On Fri

[AFMUG] This list

2020-04-10 Thread chuck
Quite a few people have joined this list lately. Not sure why the uptick. So I figured I would explain something. 4 years ago, we just about melted down over politics. We agreed to suspend all political comments, commentary and argument during Lent. Then we decided to extend Lent indefinite

Re: [AFMUG] Watch "Rescue from fall arrest lanyards. Access Techniques Ltd" on YouTube

2020-04-11 Thread chuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbCsN6V8DAw Start watching about 6:00 From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:15 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Watch "Rescue from fall arrest lanyards. Access Techniques Ltd" on YouTube https://youtu.be/VbFfJAo6sr0 -

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

2020-04-11 Thread chuck
My son said they are using the malaria drug in the UK to great success. Over 50% of the physicians there are on it as a prophylactic. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 1:50 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

[AFMUG] OT youtube hell

2020-04-11 Thread chuck
Stuck in youtube hell this afternoon. It brought up this on the side. Made me laugh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA-q4pXd0Pk Why did I immediately think of Steve when I saw the title? Sorry Steve. My problem is a lack of the raw materials and not sure where to get them. Probably online.

Re: [AFMUG] OT youtube hell

2020-04-12 Thread chuck
utube hell Anybody remember the TV series “The Librarians”? There was an episode where a science fair goes awry. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2020 8:38 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT youtube hell What were the explosives? Now

Re: [AFMUG] OT youtube hell

2020-04-12 Thread chuck
d regs. They looked and looked and couldn't find it. Explosives and guns were added shortly thereafter. On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 9:39 AM Chuck McCown wrote: What were the explosives? Nowadays that would get you on some kind of watch list X Sent from my iPhone On Apr

Re: [AFMUG] OT youtube hell

2020-04-12 Thread chuck
, Apr 12, 2020 at 9:39 AM Chuck McCown wrote: What were the explosives? Nowadays that would get you on some kind of watch list X Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2020, at 6:00 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:  I think chemistry is incredibly cool mainly for Breaking Ba

Re: [AFMUG] OT youtube hell

2020-04-12 Thread chuck
were added shortly thereafter. On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 9:39 AM Chuck McCown wrote: What were the explosives? Nowadays that would get you on some kind of watch list X Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2020, at 6:00 AM, can...@believewireless.net wrote:  I think chemi

[AFMUG] Happy Monday

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
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Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
We have them for Utah but they are a few days old. They don’t update it as frequently as this one. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:20 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday I wish they had these charts per state or metro area, but I have

[AFMUG] OT Learned something today

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
>From Beetle Bailey. The term grawlix refers to the series of typographical symbols (such as @#$%&!) used in cartoons and comic strips to represent swear words. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
The log curve of daily deaths is starting to flatten. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 9:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday I think the daily deaths graph probably gives a better picture of where we are on the curve, but that appears

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
I wonder how the futures market is going to react to this. Properly done with understanding there is a fortune to be made. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:08 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday I look forward to other meat packers clo

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
Is that where the Bundies are? I saw something about them wanting to do a gathering of people with armed enforcement of the right to assemble or something like that. While I sympathize somewhat with some of their grazing and water issues in Utah and Nevada those guys seem to be itching for a

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday The soundbites make it seem like that bunch of cooks has a valid argument. Once you dig down into it you find they are a bunch of anarchist that seem skilled at swaying the media. As Chuck said, if you are going to use a public asset, you have to pay the

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
e you dig down into it you find they are a bunch of anarchist that seem skilled at swaying the media. As Chuck said, if you are going to use a public asset, you have to pay the public (gevernment) for its use. For some reason, they think they are exempt and want something for nothing. The

Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
anarchist that seem skilled at swaying the media. As Chuck said, if you are going to use a public asset, you have to pay the public (gevernment) for its use. For some reason, they think they are exempt and want something for nothing. The funny thing to me is that typically, grazing rights from

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
ment later On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 10:39 PM Chuck McCown wrote: You can pick your friends. And you can pick your nose. But you can’t pick your friend’s nose. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:07 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:  Up your

[AFMUG] OT Giving thanks

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
for TSLA... (if I say more I am afraid I may jinx myself)-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
get back in the work truck and if customer wont stop approaching, just to leave the site, we will recover equipment later On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 10:39 PM Chuck McCown wrote: You can pick your friends. And you can pick your nose. But you can’t pick your friend’s

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
ey are to get back in the work truck and if customer wont stop approaching, just to leave the site, we will recover equipment later On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 10:39 PM Chuck McCown wrote: You can pick your friends. And you can pick your nose. But you can’t pick your

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
mer comes outside, they are to get back in the work truck and if customer wont stop approaching, just to leave the site, we will recover equipment later On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 10:39 PM Chuck McCown wrote: You can pick your friends. And you can pick your nose. Bu

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
ave to shut stuff down for 2 weeks every time some pauper approaches us. Techs were given clear instruction that if the customer comes outside, they are to get back in the work truck and if customer wont stop approaching, just to leave the site, we will recover equipment later On Su

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

2020-04-13 Thread chuck
ent later On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 10:39 PM Chuck McCown wrote: You can pick your friends. And you can pick your nose. But you can’t pick your friend’s nose. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:07 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

[AFMUG] OT virus testing

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
>From Utah: SALT LAKE CITY — Utah health officials said Monday they’re seeing a low demand for testing for the new coronavirus and they don’t know why. “That’s the million-dollar question. We’re really trying to figure out,” said Dr. Angela Dunn, epidemiologist with the Utah Department of Healt

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
Lent -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:45 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing You and I are going to have to agree to disagree. That would be like every state negotiating their own tariffs internationally. Sorry but Un

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
Chuck, it is a WISP centric list and we devolve into some pretty nasty talk without constraints... BTDT... On 04/14/2020 11:08 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: IT is pretty ridiculous that we can't talk about anything without breaking lent. Stock markets going to crash ... lent Hurricane res

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
Actually I am assigning all the blame to Steve for that... From: James Howard Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:27 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing You’re claiming all the credit for that? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of S

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
I can name names of people that are at the polar extremes of political opinion here. If one posts, then the opposite end feels a need to post and then it is never ending. You are right that there is no clean delineation between the world and the world of politics. My facts are tinfoil delusion

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
/2020 11:31 AM, James Howard wrote: Unfortunately Chuck said he’s assigning it all to you…….. I kind of thought it was a group effort though. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
I remember that day. I was fixing a phone in a farm outbuilding. From: Chuck Macenski Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension? +1 to the Alexander Haig comment On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:23 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: Not

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
rns out. they resolved the last of them with some hotspots. Not every day theres something good to say about a school district On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:38 PM Bill Prince wrote: Who _IS_ the king here? bp On 4/14/2020 11:31 AM, James Howard wrote: Unfortunately Chuc

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
Oh, the humanity.. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 2:20 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing So in today's BEER news: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8213855/FIFTY-MILLION-pints-beer-cider-poured-drai

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
First study up on the allowable tower heights and distances from the runway. If it is in violation just keep your mouth shut. As I recall the slopes are worse off the ends but I have a faulty memory. If you are under the inverted cone with clearance you can file and you will get it, but you m

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
https://hamradioschool.com/g1b01-maximum-antenna-structure-height/ From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:47 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it’s a 45 or 50 ft probably

Re: [AFMUG] OT: lunch

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
Well, there can’t be too much shame for a dad that makes his kids do homework. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: lunch Supper A fine pilsner with choice hops from Pacific northwest as well as noble Saaz hops

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
If you are farther than 2500’ from the runway you are good. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:47 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it’s a 45 or 50 ft probably Rohn

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
Unless you are scud running... I Follow Railroads. I don’t do it anymore by my former business partner loved to do this. Scared the crap out of me. So I got an IFR ticket so I never had to do that again. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Us

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
During my years of actually flying in the clouds, I would only do a climb until I was in the sunshine. Then a dive and drive type of let down. I never shot to minimums, never did ILS. Just wanted to fly in the sunshine but not be hampered by overcast. I did come down and pick up a bunch of i

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
Depends on how far you are away. A steeper angle near the airport. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:02 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower I have a TOWAIR report from Micronet, is that the same thing I’d get from th

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

2020-04-14 Thread chuck
I used to be pretty good at slipping the door man or hostess some green to get to the front of the line. For the past 5-10 years they do not seem to be agreeable to that anymore. One place told me it was due to tax implications. Red Iguana could be softened up with $5 years ago. Now they loo

Re: [AFMUG] And there we have it....

2020-04-15 Thread chuck
They didn’t mention Utah and it is a reorg not a liquidation... From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 6:08 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] And there we have it https://finance.yahoo.com/news/frontier-communications-files-bankruptcy-protection-03063527

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

2020-04-15 Thread chuck
Funny, some content sources consider their edge router to be a customer facing router. Kinda like banks consider a deposit into your checking account a debit. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 9:30 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

2020-04-15 Thread chuck
I totally agree. To me, edge interconnects with upstream providers and if it is a decently powered device it can also be a core and even an access router for smaller systems. From: Gilbert Gutierrez Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 10:45 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [

[AFMUG] reflector dishes

2020-04-15 Thread chuck
I am scrapping my remaining inventory of metal reflector dishes. Sales are so low that I would rather have the warehouse space for other things. Not sure what radio holders we have for them. You can have them for the cost of shipping if you want them. To order or for inquires email sa...@wbmfg

Re: [AFMUG] reflector dishes

2020-04-15 Thread chuck
Well then, I am sure I can find a Tranzeo around here somewhere. From: Nate Burke Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:39 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reflector dishes Comeon. I want my authentic 2012 house to have authentic looking 2012 hardware installed on it!

Re: [AFMUG] reflector dishes

2020-04-15 Thread chuck
That reminds me of a customer, can’t remember if it was stinger or dish, that wanted to know if it was ok to paint it black. It actually does with some paints. He was doing an install on Bette Midler’s house and everything was black. If I remember the story correctly, all people working on th

Re: [AFMUG] And there we have it....

2020-04-16 Thread chuck
In the LATA data base each switch is specified to be port capable or not. I think they have to make the switch port capable if they receive a “bona fide” request. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 8:57 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] And there we

Re: [AFMUG] Saf to af11 waveguide adapter

2020-04-16 Thread chuck
: [AFMUG] Saf to af11 waveguide adapter Chuck do you make this adapter? Lumina to af-11 ? (Whatever the lumina waveguide port type is to nmale ) need to climb up and get the part number of the antennas not even sure what waveguide port they have according to the lumina spec sheet there can be like

[AFMUG] OT dinner

2020-04-16 Thread chuck
I put some chunks of hickory in the bottom of a deep cast iron pan. Put a perforated rack over it, then cooked chicken breast then another frying pan inverted over the whole mess. Fire on high for about 15 minutes. Yummy smoked chicken for tacos. Smoke alarms still have not gone off. My w

[AFMUG] OT Happy Friday

2020-04-17 Thread chuck
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[AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

2020-04-17 Thread chuck
Axis has some $5000 ptz cameras. They have some cheaper ones too that show discontinued. Anyone know of cameras with SFP on them? My distances are too far for ethernet. I could use media converters I suppose...-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

2020-04-17 Thread chuck
It is for my equipment yard. About 2 acres with 5 cameras up 35 feet. So I doubt PTZ is necessary, yes outdoor. Night if I can afford it. Like to keep it under $500/camera If possible, but you get what you pay for. Just trying to simplify the amount of wiring I will be doing at each pole. And

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

2020-04-17 Thread chuck
Axis has them. Just spendy. From: TJ Trout Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp I don't think you will find a camera with sfp and if you do it won't be worth it. if you want a REALLY good ptz, hikvision DS-2DF8

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

2020-04-17 Thread chuck
That could work. Cost? From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:37 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp What about this device? https://www.ui.com/accessories/fiber-poe-accessory/ On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:57 PM wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

2020-04-17 Thread chuck
Yeah, I may end up doing that. From: Eric Muehleisen Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp Pretty good wifi cameras could be had for around $200. Point a nanostation or a force 180 at them On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

2020-04-17 Thread chuck
Thanks, I might just go wifi. No matter what I have to power the camera. And they all be within 300’ of the hot spot. From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp $30 - https://www.balti

[AFMUG] OT Workers Comp problem

2020-04-17 Thread chuck
One of my guys decided to put his fingers between a trailer lunette ring and a pintle hitch. Crushed two of them pretty bad. Lost some skin. Had to have some parts re attached etc. That was two weeks ago. He has been no call no show ever since. Does not return calls from the workers comp p

Re: [AFMUG] OT Workers Comp problem

2020-04-17 Thread chuck
I will have to check our manual but I’ll bet it does not have that. Clever, we will add it. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Workers Comp problem Do you have a signed employee manual that says ’no call, no

Re: [AFMUG] Saf to af11 waveguide adapter

2020-04-18 Thread chuck
FMUG] Saf to af11 waveguide adapter Chuck do you make this adapter? Lumina to af-11 ? (Whatever the lumina waveguide port type is to nmale ) need to climb up and get the part number of the antennas not even sure what waveguide port they have according to the lumina spec sheet there ca

[AFMUG] OT Roku

2020-04-18 Thread chuck
For some reason, for the past few days, Roku does not want to display Hulu or Amazon but Netflix works. I can get both Prime and Hulu on the computer. Pretty sure it is not the connection. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] OT fun

2020-04-18 Thread chuck
song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ5djcbM2fU-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Roku

2020-04-18 Thread chuck
I did that a few days ago. I am just wondering if perhaps the Hulu-Roku servers are seeing heavy demand. From: can...@believewireless.net Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:04 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Roku Go into settings and see if there is an update avail

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mission Extension Vehicle

2020-04-18 Thread chuck
It would seem that launching a new satellite into the proper location would cost about the same. Maybe it is cheap and cheap to launch. They can use it for other things and it is nice that it can park it in the junkyard when it is done. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:32 PM

Re: [AFMUG] funny - Sierra la Puerta

2020-04-18 Thread chuck
Mountains of doors From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:28 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] funny - Sierra la Puerta Maybe if they spelled it right, the puerta would be cerrada.

[AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

2020-04-18 Thread chuck
Got our supposedly to be forgiven $10K loan today. We shall see...-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

2020-04-18 Thread chuck
About 16. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan $10k? How many people do you have? I think I got nearly $500k between all the companies. On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 7:01 PM wrote: Got our supposedly t

Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

2020-04-18 Thread chuck
$120K I don’t know why I thought it was $10K Now I really hope they forgive it and I don’t have to pay income tax on it. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan $10k? How many people do you have? I thi

Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

2020-04-19 Thread chuck
Lewis, Are you taking any special measures to be able to prove you used the loan proceeds for approved uses? Kinda hard when they get comingled with other funds in a general checking account. I think we put them in a separate savings account. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Saturday, April 18, 20

[AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-19 Thread chuck
Sobering to see that we have passed the number of the US servicemen deaths in the Korean war and will probably pass Vietnam before we are done. All in a few short months. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-20 Thread chuck
I am normally pretty optimistic, so feeling a bit cynical this morning: If aliens landed in a mars attacks style, if would become partisan politics before they even left the spacecraft. If Jesus appeared walking across the sea, helping fishermen gather a catch, PETA and Greenpeace would be fi

Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

2020-04-20 Thread chuck
We are still going to keep it sequestered. I should have been paying myself... From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:02 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan It's my understanding that in 8 weeks all you have to do is prove you did payroll for

[AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism

2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Looks a bit Gaussian to me. I hope... -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Injections?... hmmm Depending on the injection might be kinda pleasant. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:22 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus Blame Bill Gates. And 5G. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 202

Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism

2020-04-20 Thread chuck
I look at the curve and say we are half over. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:33 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism That probably is (modestly) good news. But how anyone can look at that curve and say it’s over,

Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism

2020-04-20 Thread chuck
I am guessing we don’t want to degauss this curve. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:23 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRkXF3TKy54 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Sol

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Unless we relax and get a double bump. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:44 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism I look at the curve and say we are half over. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:3

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Moo From: castarritt . Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:04 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism It's looking like the doctors have come up with reasonably effective treatment methods, so I bet we will slowly relax social distancing in

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Hopefully we will have a vaccine by fall. Hopefully they will have sorted out what treatments work by July. Hopefully lotsa good testing by June. But baseball seems to be totally f*cked. Hopefully not college football too... From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:49 AM To: AnimalFa

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Harem immunity. From: castarritt . Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:09 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism I said herd immunity, but brood immunity does sound cooler. On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:07 AM Adam Moffett wrote: Why are we

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Just contrasting the current situation to what I know about WWII. Everyone seemed to get behind the war effort irrespective of politics. I came of age during Vietnam. So we had the polar opposite of that in those years. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:24 AM To: af@af.afmu

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
I think Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks got the malaria drug. They don’t know if it worked but they felt better after getting it. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:33 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism What are the tre

Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

2020-04-20 Thread chuck
dunno... Why pay FICA for myself when I don’t need to? I can take a repayment on notes payable if I want money without any tax implication. Or I can take a directors fee without FICA if I want to take money. But what in the hell am I going to do with a bunch of money in my checking account?

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
I had to look it up: ja·bro·ni /jəˈbrōnē/ noun INFORMAL•US 1.. a foolish or contemptible person. "get it together, you jabronis" From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:01 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus All the news about WW2 came from the government. Per

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Not into growing potatoes in poop. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:02 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan Time to book that trip to Mars. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:46 AM To: AnimalFarm

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Thanks From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:20 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan I doubt this attachment will make it through but here is a checklist from the SBA for PPP forgiveness. Just in case the attachment is stripped, here it is

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Corporation I am a minority shareholder. My wife is the majority shareholder. But you still don’t have to pay shareholders anything. If they are on the board of directors they can earn a directors fee. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 12:04 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Around here they are looking for a cat snack. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 12:22 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT still a bit of hope and optimism Coyotes around here come close to the houses and try to lure the domestic dogs to join their pack. I'm sure that

Re: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing

2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Does not look bad to me. From: Jeremy Grip Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 12:44 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] Dark Fiber Pricing Can anybody give me an idea of reasonable dark fiber pricing per strand mile? I’m trying to figure out if the rates Vermont asks for sta

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Most WISPS started as a side hustle I think. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 12:20 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan We did not pay ourselves for the first 2 or 3 years of our S-corp. However, our accountant advised us to pay ourselves a token salary t

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Sad... http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 1:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus Only after Pearl Harbor...and the Nazi’s foolishly declaring war on the US in the immediate aftermath. Jeff Broadwick CTIcon

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Me too. From: Bruce Robertson Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 2:53 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan That's almost exactly how my company started. On 4/20/20 12:38 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Ours was. We just wanted broadband at the time (we have a 73,000' line to the ne

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