I learned a long time ago to show a “compliant attitude” with any legal
authority. Goes a long way with the cops and the FAA.
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:09 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday
i remember when the bundys took over the wildlife refuge. never could figure
out how a couple locals charged with arson correlated to them taking over the
refuge and making improvements to it. finnicum got himself killed, im pretty
sure that was his intent. The fbi was in the wrong, but it was an
understandable consequence. dont rush the trigger happy steroid freaks, im
just saying. i do hope those who lied on reports go to prison for a long time,
but the shooting was just a consequence of stupidity across the board. i
watched the video from the truck. whoever took the shot at the truck needs a
live sentence, after a public caning of everyone in the truck. the bundys are
an odd bunch
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:57 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
Lots of people have wrongheaded beliefs. Lots of people are assholes. Lots
of people have guns. Lots of people make threats. Put them all together,
though, and you have a problem. I seem to remember that law enforcement tried
to take the approach that enforcing compliance would do more harm than good,
but some outside agitators stirred the pot. I don’t really follow this case
and probably have some of the details wrong, but for better or worse that’s my
tl;dr recollection.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 12:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday
He’s said before that he’d pay the state for the grazing, just not the BLM.
So why doesnt the state just accept the check and sign it over to the BLM? lol
On Apr 13, 2020, at 11:22 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
The part of Nevada in question has a long running battle between the BLM
and locals. Locals want to continue to use rs2477 roads, the BLM wants to
close them. Years ago they called it the sagebrush rebellion. Bundy’s claim
of prior rights seems a bit sketchy. I am very surprised he did not end up in
jail.
Yeah, grazing is cheap. But they are $1M in arrears. Wasn’t until the BLM
attempted to collect and evict that the prior rights became part of the
argument we heard in the media.
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:51 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday
The soundbites make it seem like that bunch of cooks has a valid argument.
Once you dig down into it you find they are a bunch of anarchist that seem
skilled at swaying the media. As Chuck said, if you are going to use a public
asset, you have to pay the public (gevernment) for its use. For some reason,
they think they are exempt and want something for nothing.
The funny thing to me is that typically, grazing rights from the government
are extremely cheap compared to private land costs. It is $1.35 per head a
month or $16.20 a year. A friend of mine that leases 40,000 acres on a ranch
out here for about 1400 head. He pays about $165k a year more than that. He
does get all surface rights, which include hunting which he resells, but he
only does that to defray costs. I am sure he would love to forget about the
hunting revenue and just pay the $22,680 a year.
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 11:28 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
Is that where the Bundies are? I saw something about them wanting to do
a gathering of people with armed enforcement of the right to assemble or
something like that.
While I sympathize somewhat with some of their grazing and water issues
in Utah and Nevada those guys seem to be itching for a fight. They have the
religious element in their arguments.
If you graze on public land, you have to pay your grazing fees. No
exceptions...
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:16 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Happy Monday
Interesting that the worst place for COVID-19 cases is Blaine County
Idaho (> 2,000 cases per 100,000 population), and the Bundies are at it again.
bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 4/13/2020 8:33 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
https://covid19.topos.com/
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 9:21 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I wish they had these charts per state or metro area, but I haven't
found that anywhere yet (not that I've spent a lot of time looking... )
The problem with this, is that it's pretty much just showing the NYC
curve at this point (since everything else is buried under those numbers), and
doesn't really give us a good picture of what's happening in other parts of the
country. I expect we're going to follow along with Chicago here, which looks
like it's probably just getting started...
On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:12 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
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