Me too.

From: Bruce Robertson 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 2:53 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

That's almost exactly how my company started.


On 4/20/20 12:38 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

  Ours was. We just wanted broadband at the time (we have a 73,000' line to the 
nearest CO and dialup got us 26 Kbps on a good day). When I first learned of 
the last mile problem, I realized that conventional wired broadband would 
probably not happen here in my lifetime. The original goal was to get enough 
neighbors signed up so that it would not cost an arm and a leg. I really just 
wanted enough subscribers to cover the cost. I figured 2 or 3 dozen neighbors 
would do it. Then it became something like selling heroin, and the rest is 
history.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 4/20/2020 11:54 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

    Most WISPS started as a side hustle I think.  

    From: Bill Prince 
    Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 12:20 PM
    To: af@af.afmug.com 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

    We did not pay ourselves for the first 2 or 3 years of our S-corp. However, 
our accountant advised us to pay ourselves a token salary to avoid troublesome 
revenuers.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 4/20/2020 11:17 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

      Corporation
      I am a minority shareholder.  
      My wife is the majority shareholder.  But you still don’t have to pay 
shareholders anything.  
      If they are on the board of directors they can earn a directors fee.  

      From: Josh Luthman 
      Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 12:04 PM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

      I thought it was bad to have a business and not pay the owners "a 
reasonable salary".


      Josh Luthman
      Office: 937-552-2340
      Direct: 937-552-2343
      1100 Wayne St
      Suite 1337
      Troy, OH 45373


      On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 12:46 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

        dunno...  Why pay FICA for myself when I don’t need to?   I can take a 
repayment on notes payable if I want money without any tax implication.  Or I 
can take a directors fee without FICA if I want to take money.  But what in the 
hell am I going to do with a bunch of money in my checking account?  I can buy 
more TSLA I guess.  I would rather have a Mincon pneumatic hammer drill setup 
for my directional drills.  

        Resisting the urge to buy a Tesla or an airplane.  I do miss the C-210 
with known ice capability.  But an ultralight would be more fun.  
        Could do a sailboat but I would probably never use it.   I used to sail 
on the Great Salt Lake.  

        I am just fortunate to be semi-retired and not really wanting for 
anything.  
        Other than visits from kids and grandkids.  

        In other words “I have sufficient for my needs”.
        Maybe a water jet or a CNC laser...

        From: Josh Luthman 
        Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:37 AM
        To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

        Why were you not?


        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373


        On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:19 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

          We are still going to keep it sequestered.  I should have been paying 
myself...

          From: Josh Luthman 
          Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:02 AM
          To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

          It's my understanding that in 8 weeks all you have to do is prove you 
did payroll for 75% of the amount loaned.  In your case, show 90k came out of 
the account to payroll.  The reports that the payroll company does, I'm told, 
should suffice.


          Josh Luthman
          Office: 937-552-2340
          Direct: 937-552-2343
          1100 Wayne St
          Suite 1337
          Troy, OH 45373


          On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 12:17 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

            Lewis,
            Are you taking any special measures to be able to prove you used 
the loan proceeds for approved uses?
            Kinda hard when they get comingled with other funds in a general 
checking account.  
            I think we put them in a separate savings account.  

            From: Lewis Bergman 
            Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:09 PM
            To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT guvmnt loan

            $10k? How many people do you have? I think I got nearly $500k 
between all the companies. 

            On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 7:01 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

              Got our supposedly to be forgiven $10K loan today.  We shall 
see...
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