Re: [AFMUG] Way too easy

2020-07-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
I have found that you don't want to make it too difficult to break into a tower site.If they are remote, which most of mine are, we have a lock that can be cut. I try to keep the curious and casual thieves out and try to show an effort to keep the kids off the tower. Other than that. You just give

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Homemade Tortilla soup

2020-07-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
Bill, I made your Middle Eastern chicken thing with the tomatoes, curry, onions etc with the eggs on top. That one is a winner. I'll have to cut some spice for my wife next time but man that thing is good. I added some Paprika to turn it a bit more red. The cumin is a nice brown color but she isn't

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I was going to say this means you're all set, throw it up there and boot the sucker. Not sure how they're going to solve the GUI problem, but everyone seems to agree it's misleading. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 27, 2

Re: [AFMUG] Explain it to me Lucy

2020-07-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
Ahoy Mate Looking good sporting that patch buddy. Where is your parrot? On those PLC's, do they have a different gateway setup than the cradlepoint? they should be responding directly to the IP talking to it so it shouldn't matter but wondering. The PLC's are on the same network right? On S

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I got the AP "transmitting" now. Hooked a couple clients up. Cambium told me the GUI will be addressed in a future version of CNMaestro. It's fine now. I'm actually quite impressed with how well the grant process works with the 450 equipment. On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:25 AM Josh Luthman wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Explain it to me Lucy

2020-07-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes ...on same network but not sure on their setup...not configured by us but by Tonka Equipment techs...I can find out.. On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 7:27 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Ahoy Mate > > Looking good sporting that patch buddy. Where is your parrot? > > On those PLC's, do they have a differ

[AFMUG] MSRP

2020-07-27 Thread Adam Moffett
It seems like Juniper's actual prices are 60%-75% lower than MSRP depending on the item. Like a $1200 list item is actually $400 in real life.  What's the rationale for pricing stuff like this? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Homemade Tortilla soup

2020-07-27 Thread Bill Prince
Shakshuka? Yeah. We have made that for either dinner or for breakfast. We made it few times with feta, but last time we didn't have enough feta, so we did the remaining with mozzarella. That was maybe more 'merican, but we liked it. bp On 7/27/2020

Re: [AFMUG] MSRP

2020-07-27 Thread Bill Prince
Kind of like the recent bill I got for a CT scan. MSRP was $5,900, but insurance paid $500. What's the rationale for that? bp On 7/27/2020 7:37 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: It seems like Juniper's actual prices are 60%-75% lower than MSRP depending on the item. Like a $1200 list item is actually

Re: [AFMUG] MSRP

2020-07-27 Thread Mark Radabaugh
> On Jul 27, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > It seems like Juniper's actual prices are 60%-75% lower than MSRP depending > on the item. > > Like a $1200 list item is actually $400 in real life. What's the rationale > for pricing stuff like this? > Discouraging new customers I gu

Re: [AFMUG] MSRP

2020-07-27 Thread SmarterBroadband
To keep the annual maintenance fee high? -Original Message- From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 7:38 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] MSRP It seems like Juniper's actual prices are 60%-75% lower than MSR

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
The GUI needs a bit of work, but otherwise it's ezpz. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 9:49 AM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I got the AP "transmitting" now. Hooked a couple clients up. Cambium told > me the GUI w

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
Where it gets a little trickier is when you want to change parameters on a working system. Like frequency, channel width, moving SM to a different AP, etc. Cambium accommodates all of these with clever features, but it can be confusing to the operator if you don’t do it all the time. Some of

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
If all of them get bought I'm left with at minimum 80 MHz of GAA. That's the worst case scenario! Before this I had 50 MHz in NN. Now I'm not going to say I like the SAS requirement and especially after Friday's issues showing what can happen when someone needed to plug their coffee maker in, bu

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
But I don’t think we’ve experienced yet what happens if we get kicked off a channel. Right now in GAA, we can experience the telco firing up 80 MHz channels in GAA and causing interference, but our grant won’t be withdrawn. But what if the telco has a couple PALs and submits a grant request,

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Do you think the company that spend millions to operate in their PAL blocks would be willing to operate in GAA at all? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:30 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > But I don’t think we’ve expe

[AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don't know why this is coming up now, maybe everybody thought the virus would go away in a few months. But I have churches either uploading their worship services right afterward, or trying to live stream them, to Facebook or YouTube. Rural churches don't have tons of money, so they tend to

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router

2020-07-27 Thread Mike Hammett
That does make sense that you need take rate when you are spending dollars per foot of network built. You've spent $1k to cross that lot, might as well get a customer hooked up at any price (assuming a comfortable ROI length). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest In

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
I expect they’ll do both. But are you planning to only use 3650-3700 because it’s dedicated GAA? In 3550-3650 I don’t think there’s dedicated GAA and PAL channels, and PAL licensed don’t come with assigned channels. So the limit on number of PALs per county mean there would be at most 7 PA

Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Not a church customer, but someone that creates audiobooks or something like that. She was recording the video/audio uncompressed. A 15 minute video was like 8 GB and she was complaining it was taking hours to upload. "But it was fast in Japan". I told them to compress the video to a modern code

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Bill Prince
This may only be an Android feature, and maybe only V10 and up (because I ain't going back), but the video recorder offers a couple of options when doing video. One is to do 30 fps instead f 60 fps. The other is to use H.264. I did have to do a short video the other

Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread Darin Steffl
They're much better off live streaming it with at least 3 mbps upload speed as it's transcoded by the device on the fly then. Live videos can still be archived to watch later. On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 3:05 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Not a church customer, but someone that creates audiobooks or someth

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router

2020-07-27 Thread Carl Peterson
I choose the cheapest one that includes cleaning the underbody. In MN that is generally what we're there for. On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 2:58 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > That does make sense that you need take rate when you are spending dollars > per foot of network built. You've spent $1k to cross t

Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
I have a church using two Ubiquiti 900Mhz radios for remote cameras and Internet feed on balcony. They have one camera covering altar /pulpit area and mics feed from their mixer. Not sure what software and equipment they use but they do live feed ... It's been up for two years. It looks like the e

Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread Matt Hoppes
We stream live all Sunday to YouTube on 3 megabits. Works fine. Uploading - just start it and walk away. > On Jul 27, 2020, at 4:18 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > >  > I have a church using two Ubiquiti 900Mhz radios for remote cameras and > Internet feed on balcony. They have one camera cover

Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread chuck
Yep, same here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYEHT0mwCfo Works great. From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 2:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services We stream live all Sunday to YouTube on 3 megabits. Works f

Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread chuck
Yep, same here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYEHT0mwCfo Works great. From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 2:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services We stream live all Sunday to YouTube on 3 megabits. Works f

Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread chuck
Yep, same here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYEHT0mwCfo Works great. From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 2:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services We stream live all Sunday to YouTube on 3 megabits. Works f

Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
>From what you and Darrin are both saying, live streaming would actually be >better. At least with YouTube. I’d have to check if that’s an option with >Facebook. I don’t think they are typically doing this from a phone. More like an actual camera like you’d use to record a school play, pr

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router

2020-07-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
Huh? Wrong thread? That sounds like a car wash decision. From: AF On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 3:13 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router I choose the cheapest one that includes cleaning the underbody.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Starlink router

2020-07-27 Thread Carl Peterson
whoops On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 3:59 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Huh? Wrong thread? That sounds like a car wash decision. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Carl Peterson > *Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2020 3:13 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Details on the Sta

Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread Darin Steffl
Youtube should be used over Facebook. Anyone with a browser can view youtube without an account but to watch on Facebook, you need an account which turns some people off. If possible, just give them 3-5 Mbps upload and tell them to live stream on Youtube. They can still use a dedicated camera plug

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Wrong thread dude Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 4:11 PM Bill Prince wrote: > This may only be an Android feature, and maybe only V10 and up (because I > ain't going back), but the video recorder offers a c

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Well I'm not limiting myself to that 50 MHz first off. Secondly, I don't know what the PAL frequencies will be but I'd obviously prefer to avoid those. Right now everything is wide open according to Google's SAS... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 T

Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread Bill Prince
Got the repeat setting on your send button set too high? bp On 7/27/2020 1:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yep, same here.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYEHT0mwCfo   Works great. 

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Bill Prince
How did that happen?!? bp On 7/27/2020 2:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Wrong thread dude Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-5

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
I made that mistake also when we first went live with CBRS. I was so happy to see all channels available. Then someone pointed out that is only because there are no incumbents or PALs, and the SAS doesn’t protect GAA. Obviously there are no PALs yet because the auction hasn’t taken place.

[AFMUG] Auction results so far

2020-07-27 Thread Mark Radabaugh
https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105 Not sure what the fascination with Calhoun County, IA is. Mark-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far

2020-07-27 Thread Bill Prince
Central location and relatively flat terrain. With enough power, they can cover the whole country. bp On 7/27/2020 3:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105 Not sure wh

Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far

2020-07-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
I heard it I heard I I heard it on the X On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 4:48 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Central location and relatively flat terrain. With enough power, they can > cover the whole country. > > > bp > > > > On 7/27/2020 3:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/pr

Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far

2020-07-27 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/27/20 15:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote: https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105 I'm curious to see how many WISPs actually get a PAL when this is all done. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far

2020-07-27 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Aggregate demand of 38 licenses? That’s at least 10 bidders fighting over one county. I’m guessing it’s just bidders playing games.Pick a county with a lot of demand and pile on. It’s a safe place to park a bid that you know you can get out of. Going to suck if it’s a county you actual

Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far

2020-07-27 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Nice dashboard https://sashajavid.com/FCC_Auction105.php? Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/756812e5-24a6-4693-a923-7a1d8f55546d.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/i

Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far

2020-07-27 Thread Dave
My guess is none... Im sooo sick of the BS games the FCC and 'BIG BOYZ' Are playing. So funny how they say "Sure anyone can get a pal" FCC should have shoved a big FU to all WISPs and just let us die. When I first saw the pricing on our county and surrounding countys for bid I knew there was

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Dave
I have my whole network of 45 Aps a mix of medusa -450 over to CBRS and it was challenge for sure. I am very happy with the outcome but not too sure on the future of some APs in the metro are where we heavily overlap with ATT and Verizon. Already had to coordinate to get out of their way and

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Jon Langeler
You coordinated with ATT and Verizon or local WISPs? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Jul 27, 2020, at 11:02 PM, Dave wrote: > >  > I have my whole network of 45 Aps a mix of medusa -450 over to CBRS and it > was challenge for sure. > > I am very happy with the outcome but not

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium 450 CBRS / SAS equipment onboarding

2020-07-27 Thread Steve Jones
I wish GAA would go to some sort of light PAL, with the higher EIRP and mix of 450 and LTE its going to be a mess. I havent gotten a SAS administrator yet, but im hoping one of the commercial competitive feature sets is rf visualization so we can at least be able to see who is doing what and gain s

Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

2020-07-27 Thread Steve Jones
The first thing we recommend to churches is they shut off their wifi during the service, its amazing how much of the live stream issues go away with only the stream present on their connection. We also stress that we arent even going to start troubleshooting if theyre planning on any really high re

Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far

2020-07-27 Thread Steve Jones
Our starting bid was relatively inexpensive over the ten year term for our 5 counties and 4 pals each. Almost had the boss talked into giving it serious consideration so i could pull the trigger on the auction. then the world ended and that got back burnered. byt the time we came back to it there w

Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far

2020-07-27 Thread Steve Jones
What happens if there are unbid PALs? On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:40 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Our starting bid was relatively inexpensive over the ten year term for our > 5 counties and 4 pals each. Almost had the boss talked into giving it > serious consideration so i could pull the trigger on th