>From what you and Darrin are both saying, live streaming would actually be 
>better.  At least with YouTube.  I’d have to check if that’s an option with 
>Facebook.

 

I don’t think they are typically doing this from a phone.  More like an actual 
camera like you’d use to record a school play, probably connected to a laptop 
and then to the Internet.

 

I can give a church a somewhat higher upload speed than the tier they are 
paying for.  I can’t give them 100 Mbps upload so they can transfer a 1080p 
video in a minute.  In that case, it’s not the money, it’s I just can’t do it 
without putting in a dedicated link to the tower for them.  Or they could drive 
to the tower and plug into the tower router.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 3:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] churches uploading or live streaming services

 

We stream live all Sunday to YouTube on 3 megabits. Works fine. 

 

Uploading - just start it and walk away. 





On Jul 27, 2020, at 4:18 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I have a church using two Ubiquiti 900Mhz radios for remote cameras and 
Internet feed on balcony.  They have one camera covering altar /pulpit area and 
mics feed from their mixer.

Not sure what software and equipment they use but they do live feed ...

It's been up for two years.

It looks like the equipment we had for live feeding contentious board meetings 
when I worked at TISD...I can't remember the name.

 

 

 

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 1:56 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I don’t know why this is coming up now, maybe everybody thought the virus would 
go away in a few months.  But I have churches either uploading their worship 
services right afterward, or trying to live stream them, to Facebook or YouTube.

 

Rural churches don’t have tons of money, so they tend to be on our lowest speed 
plan.  But even if I just upped their speed without increasing the price, I 
don’t think I can achieve what is in their mind, that the pastor can upload the 
video from the church in 5 or 10 minutes after the service and then go home.  
Even on our highest wireless speed plan.  We have lots of unused upstream 
bandwidth at the towers because of mostly licensed backhaul links and symmetric 
bandwidth from upstream providers.  But the last mile only has so much 
bandwidth because we set the down/up ratio typically to 75/25.

 

Has anyone faced this problem and solved it?

 

It seems to me some of the files are quite large.  Like 8 GB for an hour of 
video.  And if they try to upload 2 or 3 of them simultaneously, the percent 
completion advances so slowly they think it has stopped.

 

Does this mean they are recording in 1080p or god forbid 2160p, and maybe 60fps 
instead of 30 fps?  And then uploading the high res file, only perhaps to have 
Facebook downconvert it?

 

Is there some video app they should be using to optimize the video before 
uploading?  Preferably a free or cheap one?  And no an online converter, 
because then you’d still have to upload the original file, right?

 

Or tell them yes your Internet is slow, take the laptop to somewhere with cable 
or fiber and upload from there?  Even Comcast “gig speed” is only 35 Mbps 
upload.  Yes, that is potentially 15 times what we are giving them, but still 
not fast enough to upload a 1 hour video in the blink of an eye.

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