Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-12-01 Thread Adam Moffett
kef> From: AF on behalf of Dev Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2024 4:28:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works Anyone know how much speed you can get through them on a 10MHz channel, and how many subs each will handle? On Dec 1, 20

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-12-01 Thread Dev
Tarana THAT much better than 450 AP’s in 3.6? >> >> >> >> I have no personal knowledge. If you ask Tarana, it has almost magical >> abilities. One of those seems to be convincing government agencies handing >> out grants that you can deliver 100/20 se

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-12-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
new equipment). We’re like Rodney Dangerfield, we don’t get no respect. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2024 1:03 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works How large can you state the accuracy? Like

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-12-01 Thread chuck
, December 1, 2024 11:48 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works For the lat/lon, yes. The first few months, I had a Garmin GPS and a TruPuls laser rangefinder to determine the parameters onsite. Pretty quickly, I fou

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-12-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works I would expect that many folks just dry lab’d the SAS info from Google Earth. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 5:30 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-12-01 Thread chuck
I would expect that many folks just dry lab’d the SAS info from Google Earth. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 5:30 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works If you’re not currently using CBRS,

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-12-01 Thread Mathew Howard
hype (not PMP320 though). > Maybe it is magic, who knows, not me. Ask a Tigger, not an Eeyore. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Dev > *Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2024 2:59 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works PMP 320 with 10MHz channels, is that still even possibly legal? Don’t know what throughput you can get from that. I also think that running these wherever their 10MHz channel would have to

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works PMP 320 with 10MHz channels, is that still even possibly legal? Don’t know what throughput you can get from that. I also think that running these wherever their 10MHz channel would h

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-30 Thread Dev
>> Since they never switched to CBRS, I won’t ask if they bought any PALs. >> >> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On >> Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists >> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 9:08 AM >> To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com&

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
t; On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 9:08 AM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Cc: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works Ugh is right. Yes, they are not opera

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-30 Thread Dev
won’t ask if they bought any PALs. > > From: AF On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists > Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 9:08 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Cc: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works > > Ugh is right. > > Yes,

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works Ugh is right. Yes, they are not operating legally in CBRS. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com> On Nov 29

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-30 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
: Ken HohhofSent: Saturday, November 23, 2024 10:23 AMTo: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works Regarding dialup, we had 3 or 4 Ascend MAX4000 servers in Chicago and one in our WISP service area.  We kept that one for awhile and

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-29 Thread Dev
gt; > From: AF On Behalf Of castarritt > Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2024 9:32 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works > > Yeah, 50 subs on a 900 and 100+ on a 2.4 FSK was perfectly fine, then Netflix

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-23 Thread chuck
eventually did the same thing and were very successful. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2024 10:23 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works Regarding dialup, we had 3 or 4 Ascend MAX4000 servers in Chicago

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-23 Thread Ken Hohhof
com> > On Behalf Of Dev Sent: Friday, November 22, 2024 6:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works The good news is they recently retired the two last dial-up customers! I didn’t know that s

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-23 Thread castarritt
22, 2024 6:05 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works > > The good news is they recently retired the two last dial-up customers! I > didn’t know that still existed. > > They finally migrated the last customer of

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
On Behalf Of Dev Sent: Friday, November 22, 2024 6:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works The good news is they recently retired the two last dial-up customers! I didn’t know that still existed. They finally migrated the las

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Dev
like a Purewave WIMAX system and some Ubiquiti stuff and >>another brand I don't recall, those were forklift upgrades. >>That was like 5 years ago though. I know because my CPI cert is >>about to expire. >> Original Message >>From: &qu

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread trey
hough. I know because my CPI cert is about to expire. Original Message From: "Dev" __ Sent: 11/22/2024 3:35:58 PM To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" __ Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works Also, we’d have t

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Mathew Howard
pire. > > Original Message > From: "Dev" > Sent: 11/22/2024 3:35:58 PM > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works > > Also, we’d have to figure out how long it would take to swap

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
m: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" > Sent: 11/22/2024 3:32:53 PM > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works > > If it’s 3.65 that isn’t SAS capable, you are buying a large legal > liability. >

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Yeah, check any licensed links for coordination.Regards,Jeff Jeff BroadwickCTIconnect312-205-2519 Office574-220-7826 Celljbroadw...@cticonnect.comOn Nov 22, 2024, at 4:40 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:Yeah, that has me confused. Surely they're not still running in pre CBRS mode? If yes, what other skeleto

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
If it is Cambium 450, we switched all of ours from Part 90 / NN to CBRS and I don't remember having to change any hardware. Other 3.65 equipment like a Purewave WIMAX system and some Ubiquiti stuff and another brand I don't recall, those were forklift upgrades.That was like 5 years ago though.

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Dev
We’re in the process of getting a list of skeletons. They have 3.6GHz on some 450 radios, but apparently there are still some (possibly 320 Wimax?) 3.6 radios sitting out there somewhere, apparently still passing traffic to some subs. No one has said anything so they’re still running. > On N

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yeah, that has me confused. Surely they're not still running in pre CBRS mode? If yes, what other skeletons are in their closet? Original Message From: "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" Sent: 11/22/2024 3:32:53 PMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipme

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Ken Hohhof
I'm not following, can you elaborate? It's Friday, maybe I'm just more brain dead than usual. Quote from TV show:"Can you repeat that more slowly, my friend is hard of understanding." Original Message From: "Dev" Sent: 11/22/2024 3:26:44 PMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Dev
Also, we’d have to figure out how long it would take to swap them, trying to get a count of how much of a job this might be, i.e. how many subs. > On Nov 22, 2024, at 1:31 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > > If it’s 3.65 that isn’t SAS capable, you are buying a large legal liability. > > Reg

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
If it’s 3.65 that isn’t SAS capable, you are buying a large legal liability.Regards,Jeff Jeff BroadwickCTIconnect312-205-2519 Office574-220-7826 Celljbroadw...@cticonnect.comOn Nov 22, 2024, at 4:26 PM, Dev wrote:I think some may be in the old 3.6GHz, which is more of an issue because it gets in

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Dev
I think some may be in the old 3.6GHz, which is more of an issue because it gets in the way of the new 450 3.6GHz radio channel plan, so hoping not too many subs out there. > On Nov 22, 2024, at 12:11 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > 0 value on equipment > acquisition value on customer > cost of doi

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Steve Jones
0 value on equipment acquisition value on customer cost of doing business on swap On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 12:32 PM Dev wrote: > Looking at purchasing a WISP that has old wireless equipment that’s no > longer supported but happy customers connected to it. How do you set a > value on a customer yo

[AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

2024-11-22 Thread Dev
Looking at purchasing a WISP that has old wireless equipment that’s no longer supported but happy customers connected to it. How do you set a value on a customer you know you’re going to have to swap client radios on and point to a different AP, hopefully on the same tower? -- AF mailing list A