Yeah, 50 subs on a 900 and 100+ on a 2.4 FSK was perfectly fine, then
Netflix decided to change their business model from mailing DVDs to
streaming.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 8:02 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

> I hope they were doing wholesale dialup, not running their own access
> servers.  We dumped dialup in 2009.  It was a race to the bottom, the going
> price I think was $6.95/mo and if you were at $6.96 you got no customers.
> And you had to spend half your revenue on Google ads to get the customers.
>
> I think we still have 2 900 MHz customers on one Cambium AP.  I can't
> believe WISPs used to have like 50 subs per 900 MHz AP, at like $50/mo
> ARPU.  And those weren't even the 450i APs, they were FSK or Ubiquiti.
> Well, smartgrid took care of that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Dev
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2024 6:05 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works
>
> The good news is they recently retired the two last dial-up customers! I
> didn’t know that still existed.
>
> They finally migrated the last customer off their 900MHz, I think.
>
> The rest of the diligence should be a fun-filled mystery I’m guessing.
>
> > On Nov 22, 2024, at 3:59 PM, t...@3dsc.co wrote:
> >
> > Yeah almost all the 450 except some of the very first versions are CBRs
> capable. If they still have pmp320s install there is a small chance that it
> is running legaly, but not likely I had a customer that had an extended
> grandfatherd license that was allowed to continue for a period of time
> while they were transitioning. However its not likely.
> >
> > In this situation I would typicaly value these customers as negative for
> asuming the liability or at least they would be removed from the valuation
> I would recomend requireing them to be disabled before closing the deal.
> >
> >
> > On 11/22/24 5:48 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm fairly certain that all 450 hardware is CBRS capable, so that's
> just going to be a matter of upgrading firmware and getting everything
> properly configured and registered.
> >> I don't think any wimax gear is CBRS capable.
> >> At least some (probably most) LTE stuff can be upgraded to CBRS.
> >> If it's a couple of old wimax APs with a small number of customers,
> it's probably not that big of a deal, if it's hundreds of customers...
> yikes.
> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2024, 3:57 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com <mailto:
> khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote:
> >>    If it is Cambium 450, we switched all of ours from Part 90 / NN to
> >>    CBRS and I don't remember having to change any hardware. Other 3.65
> >>    equipment like a Purewave WIMAX system and some Ubiquiti stuff and
> >>    another brand I don't recall, those were forklift upgrades.
> >>    That was like 5 years ago though. I know because my CPI cert is
> >>    about to expire.
> >>    ---- Original Message ----
> >>    From: "Dev" __
> >>    Sent: 11/22/2024 3:35:58 PM
> >>    To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" __
> >>    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works
> >>    Also, we’d have to figure out how long it would take to swap them,
> >>    trying to get a count of how much of a job this might be, i.e. how
> >>    many subs.
> >> >     On Nov 22, 2024, at 1:31?PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists
> >> >     <jeffl...@att.net <mailto:jeffl...@att.net>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >     If it’s 3.65 that isn’t SAS capable, you are buying a large legal
> >> >     liability.
> >> >
> >> >     Regards,
> >> >
> >> >     Jeff
> >> >
> >> >     Jeff Broadwick
> >> >     CTIconnect
> >> >     312-205-2519 Office
> >> >     574-220-7826 Cell
> >> >     jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com>
> >> >
> >> >>     On Nov 22, 2024, at 4:26?PM, Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com
> >> >>     <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>     ?I think some may be in the old 3.6GHz, which is more of an issue
> >> >>     because it gets in the way of the new 450 3.6GHz radio channel
> >> >>     plan, so hoping not too many subs out there.
> >> >>
> >> >>>     On Nov 22, 2024, at 12:11?PM, Steve Jones
> >> >>>     <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
> >> >>>     wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>     0 value on equipment
> >> >>>     acquisition value on customer
> >> >>>     cost of doing business on swap
> >> >>>
> >> >>>     On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 12:32?PM Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com
> >> >>>     <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>         Looking at purchasing a WISP that has old wireless equipment
> >> >>>         that’s no longer supported but happy customers connected to
> >> >>>         it. How do you set a value on a customer you know you’re
> >> >>>         going to have to swap client radios on and point to a
> >> >>>         different AP, hopefully on the same tower?
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