I hope they were doing wholesale dialup, not running their own access servers.  
We dumped dialup in 2009.  It was a race to the bottom, the going price I think 
was $6.95/mo and if you were at $6.96 you got no customers.  And you had to 
spend half your revenue on Google ads to get the customers.

I think we still have 2 900 MHz customers on one Cambium AP.  I can't believe 
WISPs used to have like 50 subs per 900 MHz AP, at like $50/mo ARPU.  And those 
weren't even the 450i APs, they were FSK or Ubiquiti.  Well, smartgrid took 
care of that.

-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Dev
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2024 6:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

The good news is they recently retired the two last dial-up customers! I didn’t 
know that still existed. 

They finally migrated the last customer off their 900MHz, I think.

The rest of the diligence should be a fun-filled mystery I’m guessing.

> On Nov 22, 2024, at 3:59 PM, t...@3dsc.co wrote:
> 
> Yeah almost all the 450 except some of the very first versions are CBRs 
> capable. If they still have pmp320s install there is a small chance that it 
> is running legaly, but not likely I had a customer that had an extended 
> grandfatherd license that was allowed to continue for a period of time while 
> they were transitioning. However its not likely.
> 
> In this situation I would typicaly value these customers as negative for 
> asuming the liability or at least they would be removed from the valuation I 
> would recomend requireing them to be disabled before closing the deal.
> 
> 
> On 11/22/24 5:48 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm fairly certain that all 450 hardware is CBRS capable, so that's just 
>> going to be a matter of upgrading firmware and getting everything properly 
>> configured and registered.
>> I don't think any wimax gear is CBRS capable.
>> At least some (probably most) LTE stuff can be upgraded to CBRS.
>> If it's a couple of old wimax APs with a small number of customers, it's 
>> probably not that big of a deal, if it's hundreds of customers... yikes.
>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2024, 3:57 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com 
>> <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote:
>>    If it is Cambium 450, we switched all of ours from Part 90 / NN to
>>    CBRS and I don't remember having to change any hardware. Other 3.65
>>    equipment like a Purewave WIMAX system and some Ubiquiti stuff and
>>    another brand I don't recall, those were forklift upgrades.
>>    That was like 5 years ago though. I know because my CPI cert is
>>    about to expire.
>>    ---- Original Message ----
>>    From: "Dev" __
>>    Sent: 11/22/2024 3:35:58 PM
>>    To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" __
>>    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works
>>    Also, we’d have to figure out how long it would take to swap them,
>>    trying to get a count of how much of a job this might be, i.e. how
>>    many subs.
>> >     On Nov 22, 2024, at 1:31?PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists
>> >     <jeffl...@att.net <mailto:jeffl...@att.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     If it’s 3.65 that isn’t SAS capable, you are buying a large legal
>> >     liability.
>> >
>> >     Regards,
>> >
>> >     Jeff
>> >
>> >     Jeff Broadwick
>> >     CTIconnect
>> >     312-205-2519 Office
>> >     574-220-7826 Cell
>> >     jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com>
>> >
>> >>     On Nov 22, 2024, at 4:26?PM, Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com
>> >>     <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     ?I think some may be in the old 3.6GHz, which is more of an issue
>> >>     because it gets in the way of the new 450 3.6GHz radio channel
>> >>     plan, so hoping not too many subs out there.
>> >>
>> >>>     On Nov 22, 2024, at 12:11?PM, Steve Jones
>> >>>     <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
>> >>>     wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>     0 value on equipment
>> >>>     acquisition value on customer
>> >>>     cost of doing business on swap
>> >>>
>> >>>     On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 12:32?PM Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com
>> >>>     <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>         Looking at purchasing a WISP that has old wireless equipment
>> >>>         that’s no longer supported but happy customers connected to
>> >>>         it. How do you set a value on a customer you know you’re
>> >>>         going to have to swap client radios on and point to a
>> >>>         different AP, hopefully on the same tower?
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