I hope they were doing wholesale dialup, not running their own access servers. We dumped dialup in 2009. It was a race to the bottom, the going price I think was $6.95/mo and if you were at $6.96 you got no customers. And you had to spend half your revenue on Google ads to get the customers.
I think we still have 2 900 MHz customers on one Cambium AP. I can't believe WISPs used to have like 50 subs per 900 MHz AP, at like $50/mo ARPU. And those weren't even the 450i APs, they were FSK or Ubiquiti. Well, smartgrid took care of that. -----Original Message----- From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Dev Sent: Friday, November 22, 2024 6:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works The good news is they recently retired the two last dial-up customers! I didn’t know that still existed. They finally migrated the last customer off their 900MHz, I think. The rest of the diligence should be a fun-filled mystery I’m guessing. > On Nov 22, 2024, at 3:59 PM, t...@3dsc.co wrote: > > Yeah almost all the 450 except some of the very first versions are CBRs > capable. If they still have pmp320s install there is a small chance that it > is running legaly, but not likely I had a customer that had an extended > grandfatherd license that was allowed to continue for a period of time while > they were transitioning. However its not likely. > > In this situation I would typicaly value these customers as negative for > asuming the liability or at least they would be removed from the valuation I > would recomend requireing them to be disabled before closing the deal. > > > On 11/22/24 5:48 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I'm fairly certain that all 450 hardware is CBRS capable, so that's just >> going to be a matter of upgrading firmware and getting everything properly >> configured and registered. >> I don't think any wimax gear is CBRS capable. >> At least some (probably most) LTE stuff can be upgraded to CBRS. >> If it's a couple of old wimax APs with a small number of customers, it's >> probably not that big of a deal, if it's hundreds of customers... yikes. >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2024, 3:57 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com >> <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote: >> If it is Cambium 450, we switched all of ours from Part 90 / NN to >> CBRS and I don't remember having to change any hardware. Other 3.65 >> equipment like a Purewave WIMAX system and some Ubiquiti stuff and >> another brand I don't recall, those were forklift upgrades. >> That was like 5 years ago though. I know because my CPI cert is >> about to expire. >> ---- Original Message ---- >> From: "Dev" __ >> Sent: 11/22/2024 3:35:58 PM >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" __ >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works >> Also, we’d have to figure out how long it would take to swap them, >> trying to get a count of how much of a job this might be, i.e. how >> many subs. >> > On Nov 22, 2024, at 1:31?PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists >> > <jeffl...@att.net <mailto:jeffl...@att.net>> wrote: >> > >> > If it’s 3.65 that isn’t SAS capable, you are buying a large legal >> > liability. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Jeff >> > >> > Jeff Broadwick >> > CTIconnect >> > 312-205-2519 Office >> > 574-220-7826 Cell >> > jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com> >> > >> >> On Nov 22, 2024, at 4:26?PM, Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com >> >> <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> ?I think some may be in the old 3.6GHz, which is more of an issue >> >> because it gets in the way of the new 450 3.6GHz radio channel >> >> plan, so hoping not too many subs out there. >> >> >> >>> On Nov 22, 2024, at 12:11?PM, Steve Jones >> >>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> 0 value on equipment >> >>> acquisition value on customer >> >>> cost of doing business on swap >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 12:32?PM Dev <d...@logicalwebhost.com >> >>> <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Looking at purchasing a WISP that has old wireless equipment >> >>> that’s no longer supported but happy customers connected to >> >>> it. How do you set a value on a customer you know you’re >> >>> going to have to swap client radios on and point to a >> >>> different AP, hopefully on the same tower? >> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >>> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >>> >> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >> >>> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <http:// >> >>> af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <http:// >> >> af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> > -- > AF mailing list >> > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <http:// >> > af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> -- AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com <http:// >> af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com