[AFMUG] 12-count ribbon splicing - how hard is it?

One of the big prime’s subs just left probably 10K feet of fiber on spools with the city, who is giving it to us (must be nice to waste the prime’s money) after it was abandoned for six months, but it’s (almost) all 12-count flat stacks of ribbons. We just have the regular fusion splicer, what a

Re: [AFMUG] challenging AFC 6Ghz?

> Maybe contact Richard Bernhardt at WISPA. Or Cambium uses Qualcomm for AFC, > contact them, maybe they will investigate. If they can't fix it, maybe they > can tell you why. > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Dev > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 20

[AFMUG] challenging AFC 6Ghz?

We have a Cambium ePMP 4600 4x4 90 deg sector sitting 5 mountain tops from the nearest 6GHz point source, but straight-line but AFC thinks it might interfere (I guess), which could only happen on flat midwestern cornfield perhaps. Not to mention 6GHz fades after about 5-6 miles. It’s therefore s

Re: [AFMUG] How long should a splice take?

Yeah, they have a term for that, it’s arrogant dirtbags. We’re just a comm, they really don’t care. Their outhouse smells of flowers apparently. We drill to get away from that, and *mostly* don’t have issues, but we splice and move on, not worth getting overly excited usually. > On Jul 1, 2025,

[AFMUG] How long should a splice take?

One guy took about 3 hours, by the time he pulled back some slack, cleaned up the broken ends (someone hit us) and spliced in a new splice case for a 12 count. Seems like a long time, how long should this take? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.c

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik on -48VDC

It’s a Mikrotik, don’t you just hook it up and look for smoke :) Seriously, we’ve been moving more to mainstream telecom, and it’s a good question for Adtran, 11GHz Cambium PtP, Calix, etc. I bought an open frame Meanwell power supply for the Calix, and the smoke hasn’t rolled out - yet. > On

Re: [AFMUG] where do you sell WISP stuff these days?

I’d love to hear Chumlee try to explain QAM. > On Jun 17, 2025, at 3:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Going near Las Vegas? Try the Gold and Silver Pawn Shop, ask for Chumlee. > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] where do you sell WISP stuff these days?

FB marketplace, FB group of some kind, van down by the corner? I have an 11GHz link I need to get rid of and some sectors. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] T1 phone

It has a slide out drawer for coke, white edition. Gotta being something Android, Apple ain’t havin’ any of that. > On Jun 17, 2025, at 12:14 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > this is odd even for (((our guy))) > > I dont believe Eric and Don jr do coke, but I guarantee if they do, its > really re

Re: [AFMUG] T1 phone

We did work for a national park that had legacy T-1s they still needed for phone system, Aviat had a product that supported 16x T-1s and then a separate set of switched ethernet ports for future expansion across the same link. We recommended upgrading to VoIP before finding the T1 gear became mo

Re: [AFMUG] Building Automation

I=E2=80=99ve seen cool Crestron systems, but IDK if that=E2=80=99s just = residential, and it=E2=80=99s definitely spelled with a $ in it = somewhere. Cool automation though. > On Jun 4, 2025, at 9:04=E2=80=AFPM, Mike Hammett = wrote: >=20 > What have your experiences been with commercial buildin

Re: [AFMUG] Supreme Court conservatives "take a whack at NEPA"

Does this mean you can break wind in the desert without harming a rare plant now? Or pour concrete around a tower leg without an EA? > On May 29, 2025, at 5:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > https://www.npr.org/2025/05/29/nx-s1-5415742/supreme-court-nepa > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 60 Alignment

The iginitenet basically required one. We have one of those, but the mount was different, and 60XR’s are almost entirely a complex curve, except a flat spot at the top. We’re not what you call experts, but we got it done anyway :) > On May 29, 2025, at 3:43 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I never

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 60 Alignment

We didn’t use any alignment tool, besides squinting slightly and just experience. A tool would’ve been better though :) > On May 28, 2025, at 6:26 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > I haven't used any of the XRs, but I'm pretty sure there's no flat surface, > so the WB scope probably isn't going t

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 60 Alignment

It will be faster, especially when you get down to the last 6-10dB. > On May 28, 2025, at 2:35=E2=80=AFPM, Dev = wrote: >=20 > It=3DE2=3D80=3D99s WAY better, we were able to get it to associate = with a =3D > rough aim at 7 miles, and only one tower crew, which kind of amazed = me. =

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 60 Alignment

It=E2=80=99s WAY better, we were able to get it to associate with a = rough aim at 7 miles, and only one tower crew, which kind of amazed me. = We then could bounce back and forth and fine tune both ends, I think = we=E2=80=99re in mid 50s now after a few fine tunes. We=E2=80=99re going = to put so

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 6GHz working great!

t; radios the way Elaine on Seinfeld hoarded birth control sponges. > > From: AF On Behalf Of Dev > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2025 10:29 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 6GHz working great! > > It’s good to know they’ll be trying to take $3 a

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 6GHz working great!

ost. >> >> >> >> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On >> Behalf Of Adam Moffett >> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2025 11:28 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] e

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 6GHz working great!

; >> >> Example of the frequency chart on one of my PTP links: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Joe >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 11:29 AM Adam Moffett > <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 6GHz working great!

orksis the device supposed to talk to the FCC >> mothership and get permission to use the channel? >> >> >> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on >> behalf of Dev mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> >> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2025 12:20 P

[AFMUG] ePMP 6GHz working great!

Getting over 500Mbps on an 80MHz channel in 6GHz with the ePMP 4600 2x2 AP gear at -66dB - customer happy! -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Scott Adams -Dilbert

Is it just me or does it seem like cancer rates are rising? You’d think with enough smart people in enough rooms, we’d have solved this by now. > On May 22, 2025, at 6:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: > > I know I'm not the only Dilbert fan in the group, but this is kind of sad. > > Scott Adams, th

Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Powerline Devices

Aside from the TP-Link type units where you get internet in your shop a = couple hundred feet away (which work pretty well for customers), Patton = has a bunch of weirdo adapters for all kind of strange things that are = more industrial. > On May 22, 2025, at 8:07=E2=80=AFAM, Nate Burke = wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] the customer sieve

It’s reassuring to know that those handling your food are high as a kite and the walls around them might dissolve into a rainbow any minute, they’ll be sure to pay attention to health standards. The whole economy seems to have entered a parallel universe land, where any day we might snap back t

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

Is there a good microtrenching machine that costs less than a new Lexus? Any recommendations? Our local DOT won’t allow it, but maye on private land if it’s faster/cheaper than drilling? We know a lot about drilling (in house) though, so there’s that. > On Mar 22, 2025, at 2:45 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] OT Aviation

Women are quite often better pilots from the ones I’ve tried to train, more intuitive. Whatever the situation, if the mountains and the earth attached to them suddenly get very large, the plane doesn’t care who’s flying it, or used to be. Dirt matters. > On Mar 21, 2025, at 10:06 AM, Darin Stef

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

Clearly I do. Joe Walsh had one. Customers thinking they “need” gigabit allows providers to do massive PON splits and have no one complain, so it’s just a marketing stunt. But if people want to pay for magic fairy dust, I’m happy to sell it to them, meanwhile their average usage goes back to 10

Re: [AFMUG] 100 Mbps for $15 California Bill

Luckily CA has managed the most expensive diesel in the country (I think), raft loads of taxes and excruciating regulatory environment to deal with as a carrier, so this would be most welcome if the goal is to further reduce viability of small ISP's. They say the governor is the best salesman of

Re: [AFMUG] Rodent deterrent

How about a stern scolding? We tried that on a bear who sharpened its claws on a utility pole containing some cabling. Also, we moved our cabling. I think it was the scolding that worked really though. > On Mar 6, 2025, at 8:47 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > This riser has been eaten 3 times now.

Re: [AFMUG] how are tariffs calculated

This calculus was part of the real world complexities of tariffs in practice. Things like cars, for example, are a series of subassemblies which were crossing multiple borders before final assembly into a working car. Transmissions are a whole industry unto themselves, with parts sourced from al

Re: [AFMUG] Rodent deterrent

March 6, 2025 4:22 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rodent deterrent > > squirrels don't like human piss > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2025, 10:55 AM Dev <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote: > How about a stern scolding? We tried that

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD Fiber projects gone?

Here’s their statement on the subject: https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USDOC/bulletins/3d56db2 > On Mar 6, 2025, at 8:27 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > FUD is a powerful tool. I think people let their imaginations run wild when > they don't get their way. > > > > > - Original Me

Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat at customer premise?

out a good throttle solution like fq_codel, it was > the QoE data to help us resolve issues that customers don't report and use it > to confirm the fix. Preseem customer support is also very good. > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025, 3:35 PM Dev <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>>

Re: [AFMUG] bufferbloat at customer premise?

Feb 25, 2025, at 11:42 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: > > There's probably no need to do this at the customer level if you're already > doing it in the core. With Preseem or something similar, bufferbloat is > nonexistent. > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2025, 1:24 PM Dev <mail

[AFMUG] bufferbloat at customer premise?

Anyone using something like Mikrotik (or other vendor) bufferbloat queuing at the customer router like fq_codel or cake? We’ve seen really good improvement at the network core, but wanting to know if it helps to push that out to the customer edge, and what algorithm/hardware does a good job. --

[AFMUG] 40km LoRa antenna

In case you want to fire up remote site monitoring (and cycling relays that control power I guess) with a $50 LoRa dev board and monitor many km, and secretly always wanted to build your own Yagi :) https://hackaday.com/2025/02/20/diy-yagi-antenna-sends-lora-signals-farther/ -- AF mailing

Re: [AFMUG] Cost of lashing onto strand

Seems like a ripoff, all you do is walk down the road pulling a thingy with ropes that does the twirling of wire while you walk, seems like the cost to walk in a straight line should be cheap. Maybe they’re walking with golden boots? > On Feb 11, 2025, at 3:50 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I ha

Re: [AFMUG] everything is texts now?

Usually employees deliver bad news via text. Well, except the guy who was in jail. Twice. I’m not sure if they allow texts from jail, but he didn’t. Pro tip: If you get in a fight with your lady and then a car chase where you pass a cop while you’re drunk doing 90, and pull over, make sure you p

Re: [AFMUG] Big Broadband jacking up rates now?

s have increased rates every year or > few for decades... > > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 12:22 PM Dev <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote: >> I see them (multiple vendors, after the first of the year) jacking up the >> rates, sometimes by up to 20%. I’m wonde

[AFMUG] Big Broadband jacking up rates now?

I see them (multiple vendors, after the first of the year) jacking up the rates, sometimes by up to 20%. I’m wondering whether it’s market forces, compensating for overspending on govt subsidized builds that they now have to recoup, or just because they can? What are you seeing in other markets?

Re: [AFMUG] home networks

I think it’s smaller number than we think that want to know about the bits, SNR, etc. Those are just the kinds of people we really like. The other majority, probably vast majority, just want to see magic happen and not know why, so they can get back to wasting their valuable time as a nation of

Re: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Cabinet

Indeed, it would be nice to have a source for an affordable version of this, or something close that costs less than a used Hyundai. > On Jan 7, 2025, at 8:39 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF > wrote: > > I'm looking for a small outdoor cabinet may 19" rack about 10U. Would like > somet

Re: [AFMUG] KBB for multiples?

business wanted to do it before the change. And various > consultants and people on the news radio business report telling you how to > stage your business for sale. Basically, how to inflate the EBITDA. > > Accelerate revenue, but mainly cut costs. Fire people, stop doing >

Re: [AFMUG] KBB for multiples?

s://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrot

[AFMUG] KBB for multiples?

Okay, there’s no such thing as Kelly Blue Book for valuing multiples if you’re acquiring a [W]ISP, but is there some kind of guidelines, like we’ve already established a negative multiple for obsolete PMP 320’s, but what are 450’s worth per sub? What about Tarana G1/G2? Fiber is sort of more kno

Re: [AFMUG] rooftop penetrating cabling conduit options

isp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Chuck" > To: af@af.afmug.com > Cc: af@af.afmug.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2024 6:40:52 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rooftop penetrating cabling conduit options > > Weathe

[AFMUG] rooftop penetrating cabling conduit options

Okay, I know you shouldn’t do it, but it you want to mount a split a/c system on a flat (ish) commercial building roof and need to get electrons up there, along with electrical wire and some CAT6/fiber, how do you punch through the roof without allowing the entire atmosphere into the building wh

Re: [AFMUG] our last canopy customer has cancelled

dreds and hundreds and hundreds of > them. He was really happy > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 12:43 PM Dev <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote: >> Anyone know what I’d get for a box of PMP 320’s? A big box :) >> >>> On Dec 3, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] our last canopy customer has cancelled

Anyone know what I’d get for a box of PMP 320’s? A big box :) > On Dec 3, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > We should put them on eBay at full MSRP. > > From: AF On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller > Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2024 12:07 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] security camera strategy

They have a pretty site and no obvious pricing, usually that means the price wouldn’t fit on one page. > On Dec 3, 2024, at 10:05 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > > https://solink.com/ > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2024 at 3:41 PM Zach Underwood > wrote: >> "some on-camera AI, 4k re

Re: [AFMUG] equipment security

Those are statements which make good headlines. The real hard work is finding and fixing vulnerabilities one at a time, and whether the vendors are focused on fixing them as they are found. That’s the day-to-day work, and more specific than saying the equivalent of “everyone in Texas has been co

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

sh your >> upstream. If you have no other WISPs or cellular companies in your area >> using CBRS, life could be good. But if all your subs are nearby with clear >> LOS, 6 GHz could be even better. >> >> >> >> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com&

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

that you can deliver 100/20 service without fiber. I’m a skeptic > ever since I got burned on the WiMax hype (not PMP320 though). Maybe it is > magic, who knows, not me. Ask a Tigger, not an Eeyore. > > From: AF On Behalf Of Dev > Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2024 2:59 P

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

they are not operating legally in CBRS. > > Regards, > > Jeff > > Jeff Broadwick > CTIconnect > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > jbroadw...@cticonnect.com <mailto:jbroadw...@cticonnect.com> > > >> On Nov 29, 2024, at 9:46 PM, Dev >

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

d to have like 50 subs per 900 MHz AP, at like $50/mo ARPU. >> And those weren't even the 450i APs, they were FSK or Ubiquiti. Well, >> smartgrid took care of that. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AF > On Behalf Of Dev >> Sent: Friday, November

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

like a Purewave WIMAX system and some Ubiquiti stuff and >>another brand I don't recall, those were forklift upgrades. >>That was like 5 years ago though. I know because my CPI cert is >>about to expire. >> Original Message >>From: &qu

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

t.com > >> On Nov 22, 2024, at 4:26 PM, Dev wrote: >> >> I think some may be in the old 3.6GHz, which is more of an issue because it >> gets in the way of the new 450 3.6GHz radio channel plan, so hoping not too >> many subs out there. >> >&

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

liability. > > Regards, > > Jeff > > Jeff Broadwick > CTIconnect > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > >> On Nov 22, 2024, at 4:26 PM, Dev wrote: >> >> I think some may be in the old 3.6GHz, which is more of an issu

Re: [AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

er > cost of doing business on swap > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 12:32 PM Dev <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote: >> Looking at purchasing a WISP that has old wireless equipment that’s no >> longer supported but happy customers connected to it. How do you set a val

[AFMUG] Valuing obsolete equipment that still works

Looking at purchasing a WISP that has old wireless equipment that’s no longer supported but happy customers connected to it. How do you set a value on a customer you know you’re going to have to swap client radios on and point to a different AP, hopefully on the same tower? -- AF mailing list A

Re: [AFMUG] new FCC boss

t: Monday, November 18, 2024 1:42:39 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] new FCC boss > > Historically, republican administrations were always against the USDA RUS > programs. I presume they will be against the Bead if they can be. As far as > the FCC goes, one would think Elon would be no

Re: [AFMUG] new FCC boss

CSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> &g

[AFMUG] new FCC boss

So what will Carr do for/against the little guys? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

1 billion or > whatever based on BDC data, but here are some new rules and if that means > only $0.5 billion the rest goes back to the US Treasury. > > -Original Message- > From: AF On Behalf Of Dev > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2024 10:20 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwa

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

As I heard in a hallway conversation at Wispapalooza once: “Remember, the large print giveth, and the small print taketh away” I ran into a guy who stretched and got RDOF, then found out once sentence in the paperwork that was subject to interpretation almost bankrupted him. No thanks, I’d lik

Re: [AFMUG] OTDR Recommendations

the tube, wavering routes and slack loops etc.And > there is also timebase accuracy, which varies with temperature... > > > So if you have gopher damage in the desert and the closest hand hole is 10 > miles away, you will have to dig and cut several times before you ze

Re: [AFMUG] how to buy a wisp/fisp?

to be wealth managers. > > From: AF On Behalf Of Dev > Sent: Monday, November 4, 2024 10:16 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] how to buy a wisp/fisp? > > Our CPA died. Okay, so that’s sad. Much sadder than that they forgot to file > some paperw

Re: [AFMUG] how to buy a wisp/fisp?

means I’m putting them to school at $350 an hour. > On Nov 4, 2024, at 8:07 AM, wrote: > > Contact the bar association for you state. You will find plenty. > > > > From: Dev <> > Sent: Monday, November 4, 2024 8:51 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] how to buy a wisp/fisp?

at the local chamber of commerce, they might know. > > From: AF On Behalf Of Dev > Sent: Monday, November 4, 2024 9:51 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] how to buy a wisp/fisp? > > All the good lawyers are retiring, can’t find a local one, o

Re: [AFMUG] how to buy a wisp/fisp?

All the good lawyers are retiring, can’t find a local one, or one that even knows much about our state laws. > On Nov 4, 2024, at 4:46 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Lawyer up. > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2024 at 8:43 PM Dev <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote: >> Anyo

[AFMUG] how to buy a wisp/fisp?

Anyone know of any repositories of example docs to purchase another wisp/fisp? Hate to make it up when there’s got to be boilerplate somewhere. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OTDR Recommendations

We had a $300 OTDR. The only thing it didn’t do was estimate length very well if it worked at all. My friend asked how much money we’d save if we dug up the wrong lady’s yard to replace a fiber that wasn’t broken. Then we bought a Viavi, waited for a show discount. Now we can dig up the right

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

Every once in awhile you lose things, hard to keep track. Good thing is once you fished it out of the Mariannas Trench you just dust it off, knock the fish out and fire it back up? Might need a paint job. Oh, and potential implosion at depth. But if you could get it back, just change the oil an

Re: [AFMUG] solar container ships

Navy had them for years, maybe they have some used ones for sale, one owner, medium hours, bring a trailer, very large one. > On Oct 8, 2024, at 02:17, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Nuclear probably beats diesel for energy density, but I presume that is not > an option. > > Original Message ---

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

ort. Less than that it ales a lot longer. Grants > certainly make it easier. > > Regards, > > Jeff > > Jeff Broadwick > CTIconnect > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > >> On Oct 4, 2024, at 2:44?PM, Dev wrote: >>

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

> CTIconnect > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > >> On Oct 3, 2024, at 6:43 PM, Dev wrote: >> >> I wish Tarana’s price was the actual price, instead of sometimes a ton, >> sometimes a half a ton, sometimes don’t know. Th

Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G2

I wish Tarana’s price was the actual price, instead of sometimes a ton, sometimes a half a ton, sometimes don’t know. That way, I could calculate how many decades it would be until each customer would be profitable (outside of subsidized builds). > On Oct 3, 2024, at 3:04 PM, Jason McKemie >

Re: [AFMUG] Gen Z new college grads

As are most all facts, unless they align with MY truth, which is all that matters, even if it’s demonstrably false, and/or conflicts with YOUR truth, then we visit a therapist and avoid work. > On Sep 26, 2024, at 3:18 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > No, it's 'No one can ever hurt MY feelings'. MY

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

They basically last forever, more or less, and you can plop the old config into a shelf spare in case you brick your other box, pretty hard to beat. Online forum support is pretty good, and you can get any number of contractors to help you get unstuck if you can get your routing to behave. > On

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco Licensing

I’ve seen firewall folks upselling security feeds as add-ons, but when it comes to paywalling critical exploitable vulnerabilies, that feels more like exploitation by deliberate omission if you ‘choose’ not to spend a nice vacation’s pay to get back on their support treadmill so bad guys don’t f

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco Licensing

Cisco is like buying a car a piece at a time. Oh, you want the steering wheel? For all of Mikrotik’s - Mikrotik-ness, they come preloaded with all the things. I have a 3650 that’s sort of just working, but there was some weird update I needed for doing OSPF or some such, can’t recall. Also, Cisc

[AFMUG] CPE management via TR-069?

Looking to implement TR-069 management for customer routers, but hoping not to get locked into a vendor, so looking at openacs and libreacs server implementations on Debian with mysql/postgresql backends. Anyone tried this? It would be nice for automated provisioning. If no one has tried I can t

[AFMUG] Juniper SRX / Cisco ASA alternative?

What is the equivalent in Brocade / Arista / whatever-not-mikrotik that people are using? Both Juniper and Cisco have their weird quirks, wondering what other options are out there. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] Ignitenet MTU size for VLAN's

I’m trying (unsuccessfully) to pass VLAN-tagged traffic across a Metrolinq 60GHz link. It will pass non-VLAN traffic fine. Has anyone had this issue? The standard MTU is 1540, has anyone had to raise that (and to what) to make VLAN traffic work? They say they support up to 7912, but I’m not sure

Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy today

Good riddance probably, the longer a toxic employee stays the worst it gets usually, and it spreads to less toxic folks. > On Apr 22, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > He had worked for about 3 months. Learned his job quickly. High performer. > But he started acting like a bo

[AFMUG] Mikrotik GPEN?

I see their new GPEN MDU “replacement” for GPON, anyone using these devices? Really cheap, interesting concept, and they’re not UBNT. Also, they’re not 10K for an OLT. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase

Fujikura 40 S, used to be a ton of money, you can get one used sub $1500, good quality if you don’t want a cheap Chinese unit. The convenience alone will probably make you happier than you were before. > On Apr 4, 2021, at 7:26 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > Since fusion splicers arent 5 figures a

[AFMUG] core drill recommendations?

Looking at various models, what have you found that works? I’m looking at the Bluerock 8” Z1, not sure what the best water system is either. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] because the cloud is always secure

except UBNT “cloud” that is: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/03/whistleblower-ubiquiti-breach-catastrophic/ Sad most of the vendors are forcing WISP operators’ customer data to the cloud, getting rid of software you actually own, and promising we don’t need to be worried about security. Bollo

Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues

2062 bytes in size, and it's not > getting to the other end. ICMP Packets will flow regardless of size (of > course fragmenting) If I route the traffic over any of my other upstreams, > it works fine. I have a ticket open with this upstream, but getting them to > understand wh

Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues

Do you have other customers with similar config/topology where you can test, maybe who hit the same VPN server? PCAP’s aside, VPN’s don’t usually like NAT and firewall changes, but you have to divide and conquer to track down VPN issues often because the error reporting is vague at best typicall

Re: [AFMUG] good inexpensive OTDR

Galaxy S8 Active, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone > > > > Original message > From: Dev mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> > Date: 3/10/21 6:14 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > Subject: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] good inexpensive OTDR

na. It works well enough. > > We have located every fault we ever needed to find with it. > > Jim > > > > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8 Active, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone > > > > Original message > From: Dev >

[AFMUG] good inexpensive OTDR

I’m seeing prices for about $7600, seems like a lot. I’m guessing you can get a cheap Chinese one somewhere, but are they workable or flaming piles of junk? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Grafana

Very much yes, but some heavy lifting might be required. Sometimes you can get it integrated as an add-on on an ELK stack distro (Elastic Search/Logstash/Kibahna) you can just download and install on some hardware. It can give you a ton of info about logs, trends, security info. etc. and graph i

[AFMUG] Starlink speeds dip already

Already hearing from folks who have the service that they’re seeing dips below 15Mbps, and this at light loads with few customers, we’ll see how this scales. Or doesn’t. Are others in different geographies seeing similar? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af

Re: [AFMUG] Wireless Wire Dish @ 1km

700 meter Ignitenet MetroLinq PTP60-35 running around -48dbm during clear day says it will do >2.5Gbps with this RSSI, these things do a ton of bandwidth. It hangs in there surprisingly well during rain unless it’s really DUMPING rain. I think during normal or heavy rain it’s still in the mid to

Re: [AFMUG] Does anyone other than Onan make a decent mounted gas generator?

Had good luck with Kohler, but still hard to beat the little Hondas, they run for 6-9 hours on a tank and are super quiet. > On Feb 17, 2021, at 11:38 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > I have had it with the piece of shit Onan generator on the fiber trailer. > If the splicing trailer didn’t have

[AFMUG] epmp force 425 current throughput

Spec sheet says they run 4.9-6.135GHz, but also: "Support of 5870 to 6135 coming in a future software upgrade". So will there be different radios once 6GHz happens that take more advantage of higher 6GHz, or are these slated to eventually go higher in that band without new hardware? Assuming th

Re: [AFMUG] 8-12 SFP port non-MT switch?

SFP+ ports, decent > GUI, easy to set up with VLANs, but they aren't fanless. > > -Original Message- > From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On > Behalf Of Dev > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 11:17 AM > To: AF@af.a

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